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damian said:
Oh, I thought it was something new, that's from 5 days ago:
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Ron Toye on Twitter: "Most civil cases settle before ever going to co…

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"Now now do not take my talk of settlement as a sign of surrender or wrongdoing most cases end in settlement yaddayaddayadda what? you didn't actually believe me when I said I was open to fighting them in court. Well I am. But settling isn't surrendering, I swear... please don't take everything from me!... they lied to me!"

What a Fucking Weasel!
 
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Least Concern said:
He briefly talked about the Allmund-whoever one. He was unaware that he had the connection with… Sakura-kon, was it? So it wasn't any news for us.
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ProtecSpeedwagon said:
You haven't missed it. Beyond pointing out the asshat from WA that is a Vice-Chair on Sakura con, thats about it.
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Ah okay. Kinda anti-climatic. We knew all that shit last night.
 
RodgerDodger said:
What a Fucking Weasel!
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I love how these people get blindsided constantly because they do the opposite of what people like Nick say when he's telling them exactly what is going to happen, but he's an evil Nazi so of course he's totally wrong about the law despite being a lawyer, even though they can't find a single actual lawyer who will say he's wrong.

Instead, they listen to absolute nitwits claiming to be paralegals while spewing absolutely wrong shit.

Then they're amazed when the shit Nick said was going to happen goes ahead and happens.

Remember idiots, the first one to cut a deal gets the best deal. Everyone else gets fucked.
 
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It's amusing to look at their (poor) legal strategy in retrospect. They were obsessed with disproving TI w/contract because truth isn't a defense and I'm guessing the anti-SLAPP/slap/whatever doesn't apply either. So they didn't bother to get a lawyer because they thought they could either dismiss it pre-emptively and charge Vic money for it, or they could parade a long line of VAs and cosplayers to tell teary-eyed stories of Vic's rampages until the jury was swayed (not understanding that isn't how this works).

Considering all that, it was pretty stupid for Sabat, Toye, and Rial to go and commit the thing they were so desperate to dodge when they had to know that Nick had a mole in Kamehacon, given he'd already hinted very loudly at that in a way they should have understood.

ETA: considering this, to me this lends more weight to Sabat not being Iago. Risking Igor doing this is one thing, but flexing his own muscles in a way that would finger him when he's already being suspected for his involvement is next level stupid.
 
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Allanon said:
It's amusing to look at their (poor) legal strategy in retrospect. They were obsessed with disproving TI w/contract because truth isn't a defense and I'm guessing the anti-SLAPP/slap/whatever doesn't apply either. So they didn't bother to get a lawyer because they thought they could either dismiss it pre-emptively and charge Vic money for it, or they could parade a long line of VAs and cosplayers to tell teary-eyed stories of Vic's rampages until the jury was swayed (not understanding that isn't how this works).

Considering all that, it was pretty stupid for Sabat, Toye, and Rial to go and commit the thing they were so desperate to dodge when they had to know that Nick had a mole in Kamehacon, given he'd already hinted very loudly at that in a way they should have understood.
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It's funny, because trying to beat a suit via anti-SLAPP (Strategic lawsuit against public participation in case you were wondering) or TCPA is probably lawyering 101. Beating a suit before it becomes an actual suit would be the first thing you try.

On the flipside, opposing counsels (like BHBH) putting together a SLAPP-proof lawsuit is just as automatic as trying to beat it via anti-SLAPP. So putting all your hopes on the most obvious tactic is just... silly.
 
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Allanon said:
It's amusing to look at their (poor) legal strategy in retrospect. They were obsessed with disproving TI w/contract because truth isn't a defense and I'm guessing the anti-SLAPP/slap/whatever doesn't apply either.
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These absolute idiots nuked that defense from orbit when they extorted an illegal breach of contract by threatening to illegally breach their own contract.

Any of that other bullshit, as flimsy and against the case law as it is, completely flies out the window now. No matter what Vic did, it doesn't matter. You can't illegally breach a contract or threaten to do it to get someone else to breach a contract illegally themselves.

This is actually dumber than what Mark Waid did, because when Waid committed his supreme stupidity, he had no knowledge he was in legal jeopardy.

These utter fucking morons committed the most brazenly illegal act of tortious interference (and possibly even criminal extortion) after having already been put on notice that everything they do was going to be put under a fucking microscope and there was a fully funded $100K war chest just to start up the process of burning them to the ground.

OneHandClapping said:
On the flipside, opposing counsels (like BHBH) putting together a SLAPP-proof lawsuit is just as automatic as trying to beat it via anti-SLAPP. So putting all your hopes on the most obvious tactic is just... silly.
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As Ty pointed out, whenever they're looking at proceeding in an action they ask themselves what the defendant is likely to do and filing an anti-SLAPP is just the blindingly obvious thing anyone would do in a defamation action in Texas. So yeah, no shit they'd file one.

Any chance of that succeeding has been absolutely nuked by their own stupidity.
 
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Captain Manning said:
Confirmed that Ron's complaint was also dismissed with no investigation warranted.

BFTO faggots. Time to stop doxing yourself.
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"Hey boss, we can't find Toye's home address. Should we tell the server to wait around his workplace?"
"Nah, he'll give it to us."
"Wait what?"
"Yeah. Check out this ethics complaint."
 
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