Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

Clint Westwood said:
Well, La Choy is back. I can't archive his stuff, though, because he protected his tweets.

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I really wish people would stop using “survivors” for things that don’t involve surviving in any way. It’s fucking belittling to ACTUAL survivors.

“What kind of message would it send?” I dunno, how about “stand up to your (alleged) harassers and show they don’t control your life”? Not that I’m saying they were harassed, just that you could easily spin it in your favor.
 
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So its up to Kamehacon to take Monica on for Breach of Contract, since she did the whole "Vic goes or I go" she may not have a leg to stand on even hiding behind "It's for my safety" bit.
 
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Is Monica really going to argue it's against her safety? Does she think it's a rational argument to pretend Vic is just going to run up to her and molest her the minute he sees her like some kind of mindless animal?
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I don't think it's about Vic. It's about those dang crazed Vic supporters. Us, basically.

Does KamehaCon have couches?
 
"I have already received threats about it"

Not going to advise soy boy to dismiss every rando who dunks on him as harmless, although I think the amount of "threats" he receives is grossly exaggerated. But normal people who are legit threatened online don't "Woe is me..." about it, they contact the police. And if you don't, then don't expect the popcorn gallery to take you seriously.
 
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guys. think about this. even if kamehacon doesn't sue monica for damages (they absolutely should) this is still the dumbest fucking move kickvic could've done.

she's proven everything right that istandwithvic claimed. everything.

does she really think they can bully kamehacon to keep dms private from a goddamn lawyer with subpeona power? does she really expect for vic to stop now? by backing out she proved the conspiracy real and proved malice, which usually fucks defamation cases.

she literally handed vic his entire case against everyone involved.

their only hope now is to settle. they're fucked otherwise.
 
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Once again, they do precisely the wrong thing. The ride never ends. :story:

Do we have any confirmation that Monica has a lawyer yet? I presume she would have been told not to do this.

Captain Manning said:
In case anybody needs some levity from all the autism... some crazy bastard actually made FIST OF THE BEARD STAR!

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That… that was beautiful… ?
 
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I feel like even if Monica got out of appearing at Kamehacon scot free (she can't), there has to be some kind of non-complete cause where you can't be thinking of getting autograph space in the same area.

I feel like that's the smart thing to put in a contract. But then again this is the same convention that let Schemmel to push his weight around to kick Kelamis out last year and to be bullied by Sabat and Rial.
 
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M80 said:
Monica Rial just cancelled her KamehaCon appearance.

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As expected Contract Breach. Contract Breach as part of her TI. She's screwed.

5t3n0g0ph3r said:
Did she just TI herself?
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No, she just followed through on her TI of Vic. Which makes her completely screwed.

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Oh even better. She TI'd Vic, followed through on that by following through on her extortion and breaching hers. And then she is seeking to setup a competing venue. Kamehacon might be understanding if she decides to stay home out of stress. They don't seem like complete bastards, even after everything this bitch has put them through. But wanting to make outside arrangements for her fan signing? Yeah that they might pitch a bitch about. I'm sure that the Contract she is already breaching has some form of a non directly compete clause.

OneHandClapping said:
On a serious note, you think there's some stipulation in the contract to the effect of "If I don't feel safe I don't have to honor it"? With armed guards and lawyers there I doubt she (or anyone) is in any physical danger. The tweet is probably there to give her an out without being a breach, maybe.


Holy shit, I didn't even think of that. Imagine Ty or one of the ALODs (Ty did say ALOD were coming, right?) waiting in line for fifteen minutes for Monica's autograph, and when they hand over the item to be signed, it's papers.
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No! no absolutely not. re your first question NO! Your "feelz" are not sufficient to break most appearance or performance contracts. She is in breach of her signed contract.

Tard said:
Is Monica really going to argue it's against her safety? Does she think it's a rational argument to pretend Vic is just going to run up to her and molest her the minute he sees her like some kind of mindless animal?
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Nope! All it is is further evidence of her TI against Vic. Also further evidence that unlike her fiance, she would seem not to have spoken to a lawyer. Because a lawyer would have told her "shut up, suck it up, and do the Con". Would a "reasonable observer" based on everything we have seen believe Vic is going to run up to her and molest her on the convention floor? Are her fears Reasonable and Rational? It seems more like Vic has reasonable and rational concerns regarding Monica, and certainly Marchi? He clearly has grounds for some form of injunction of TRO to stop the nonstop TI and defamation.
 
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quickthrowaway said:
I feel like even if Monica got out of appearing at Kamehacon scot free (she can't), there has to be some kind of non-complete cause where you can't be thinking of getting autograph space in the same area.

I feel like that's the smart thing to put in a contract. But then again this is the same convention that let Schemmel to push his weight around to kick Kelamis out last year and to be bullied by Sabat and Rial.
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doesn't matter. it proves the conspiracy completely. they are done. they either settle or they change convention landscape legally forever. what a timeline!
 
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XYZpdq said:
I think we're agreeing that Power Rangers can help you get to a level, but we're on different pages about how much that level matters. Those examples aren't really that big as far as actors go. It's more than waiting tables sure but it's still fairly small potatoes in the grand scheme of Hollywood. With the aforementioned possible exception of zombie chick.
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It depends on the genre.

It's easier to jump from one kind of soap opera to another if they're the same rough genre.

PR as a soap opera is going to weighted differently if you then go to a dirty soap melodrama than, say, a headlining performance in showtunes Off-Broadway; that's all I'm trying to express.

Outside of that, we're basically in agreement.
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In unrelated news on KamehaCon, the public is obviously dunking on the cowards.

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Buck Mullet said:
"I have already received threats about it"

Not going to advise soy boy to dismiss every rando who dunks on him as harmless, although I think the amount of "threats" he receives is grossly exaggerated. But normal people who are legit threatened online don't "Woe is me..." about it, they contact the police. And if you don't, then don't expect the popcorn gallery to take you seriously.
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Protip for these two clowns - despite what your echo chamber may have told you, a bunch of randos telling you to go neck yourself isn't considered a legitimate threat on your life.
quickthrowaway said:
I feel like even if Monica got out of appearing at Kamehacon scot free (she can't), there has to be some kind of non-complete cause where you can't be thinking of getting autograph space in the same area.

I feel like that's the smart thing to put in a contract. But then again this is the same convention that let Schemmel to push his weight around to kick Kelamis out last year and to be bullied by Sabat and Rial.
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Without seeing one of these convention appearance contracts, it's tough to say. Ty and others have indicated that this is a community very unfamiliar with the law so I wouldn't be surprised if they had holes in them like the absence of a no-compete.
 
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