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it just occured to me. these conventions can break contract with vic but does that legally stop him from showing up in an unofficial capacity?
Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread
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Unless they banned him from the convention he can still visit the con, but he'll have to pay for tickets,won't get paid, and at best he'd have to pay for a table in Artist's Alley/the vendor area if he wanted to sign autographs. Also he'd get none of the other perks he might have had.
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Does this remind anyone else of just recently when Linkara made a big deal about Vic and a girl consenting to hugging each other as if he was her father?
We got another one announcing they're abandoning the con, and The Upset Aggregation is commenting and retweeting.
https://archive.fo/c8KVX
I'm sure everyone cares about the opinion of a thot who's banking on her body to make money, which she spends on expensive fancy stuff to show off to her paypigs on twitter, literally calls them e-girl slaves and idiots, and was likely going to the con, if at all, to just show off her ass. Admittedly, she's not bad looking, but appearance only goes so far when you act like a total cunt and tell people to "suck my cock". She's doing the KickVic side no favors and thank fuck she's on their side.
IT BEGINS!
Oh no, an e-thot won't go to a convention. LOL
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Did the losers who pulled out of panels have their proposed topics posted? I could use a good laugh.
Edit: Well @M80 just gave me a great one!
At least she's honest about what garbage she is though.
This is amazing. This is absolutely fucking amazing. I'm crying in laughter.
You answered your own question.
Oh lord forbid she actually tries to make her own unofficial space anywhere near that con. The most burning question though is: "In most cases they would just ignore the breach and never let her in again"
I'm not big on the con scene, how likely is it that they would blacklist her from attending at the very least if she did this?
Edit: I typed this all up while watch Nick's stream. Fun stuff even if it was short.
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I suppose that could be a bad side effect of this whole thing… cons get bisected into "woke" and "alt-right" cons, just like everything else in this stupid culture, because the "woke" cons won't invite the "alt-right" guests, and the "woke" guests won't respond to invitations from the "alt-right" cons (so defined because they will invite the "alt-right" guests). And who loses are the teenage fans who don't give a shit about politics.
Hmm. Law nerds, is it typical for a lawyer to directly serve papers to people they're working a case against like this? It strikes me as highly unusual, but by Ty's account, he and the Amazons are very emotionally invested in this case.
On a related note, this stuff is fun, but between this and #ComicsGate, I've learned more about civil law in the last few months than I ever thought I'd know. Hopefully I'll never have to put that knowledge to use on either side, but if I do, I'll be glad to have it. Mad props to Nick, Ty, and the law nerds on this board; this has been the height of edutainment.
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And I'm sure they have the right to kick out anyone they don't want there for any reason, so even if he goes through that rigamarole, he can still be kicked out of the con once someone in charge figures out what's going on.
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If he keeps getting D's like this, Nick might actually score lower/as low as Assblasted Alejandro did.
Someone tell him to pick up a PlugnPlay controller or something.
That wasn't crazy, you were just flatout wrong in a semi-autistic way that r/woosh doesn't cover, and I efficiently attempted to explain why without missing a beat in an equally autistic manner while injecting some informative background on it.
They're not masterpieces, but that's not the problem with your assessment in calling them trash. In both situations with both animes, the articles about how it was toxic and problematic came out ahead of the actual release of the anime itself.
People threw themselves into a frenzy to denounce it for the woke points long before any of them actually knew what the source material was, and after the articles pretended that they knew while crying about the eponymous rape scene of Episode One -- while not realizing the fate of some characters in the LN are much grimmer and problematic to a progressive than anything that was in the aired series.
Literally everything else past Episode 2 was as milktoast as most isekai/mecha anime ever get, yet you didn't mention it at all.
Or, the fact that Crunchyroll outright put a trigger warning on a mature anime, while at the same time never getting any flak for ever AIRING the anime in question. Or, the fact that they have a problem with "problematic and sexy women" but 0 problems with brutal depictions of murder, gore, and mutilation.
This is the same problem mirrored in anime as is mirrored RIGHT NOW with Sony Console and PC Censorship:
The Woke Journogazi want to ban Dead or Alive 6 because of the jiggle physics, yet they give a pass on Mortal Kombat 11;
At no point did you address this similarity, this instead went straight over your head. This is what prompted me to respond.
And now here we are.
They did what you did -- dismissed the meat of the intellectual arguments of the main ideas and themes of both narratives and plots in place for focusing on the character designs and to throw shit at the wall and see what stuck with normies, while not realizing characters like the Sword Maiden can't just be "cleaned up" from being "fopping sexmoppits", because of how important those designs are in being on-model and accurate to the source material, just as much as the subject matter is.
If the production companies hadn't done that, they'd have been raked over the coals in the exact same way as Funimation is for sticking their ideological agendas into the anime they dubbed, which was the very first post I ever made addresses.
All I did was chide you about your outlook, because you didn't seem to understand the difference of tone & setting between a comedy and a dramatic soap opera Isekai, and kinda didn't see the forest for the trees from your pantleg.
No, no, I addressed that -- The usual suspects who write those articles and hold those ratioable opinions are the same people who willfully play fast and loose with their goalposts; And, as I said, they hate them equally, for multiple reasons that are cherry-picked and ideologically offensive in nature.
Also, what? Of course the outrage against the shows are manufactured -- all outrage about anime in general by the MSM progressive media is, and it never works for them to get them cancelled; It always has the opposite effect of drawing people in to watch them.
The things you're bringing up here aren't problems of me as an anime watcher or anyone defending or attacking your argument, they're your personal opinions about Ecchi and Isekai tropes that you're projecting out a cunt-hair bit.
You might just not like those specific genres of Isekai. That doesn't make them trash-- not as seasonals or as light novels. If you can't view this any other way than I have to be a fanatic, there's a chance that it's you. Or maybe, I explained my position and outlook in a way you saw as abrasive from the outset by my deliberate "Uhm ackshually" template without getting it -- in which case, that's my fault.
Either way, you gotta work that out on your own. I'm not your sunbae on it, you're an adult and should know what you like.
Arguing about this past the facts about the controversies is a dick-measuring contest I have no interest in.
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I love the energy and fact that these guys are figuring most of this shit out on their own with a little him from Ty and Nick.
There are even some users outright daring Sabot to play chicken with KamehaCon and to cancel to join Rial as well.
And the soy boys in Rial's comments to possibly get a piece of her is just -chef's kiss-
Someone tell him to pick up a PlugnPlay controller or something.
That wasn't crazy, you were just flatout wrong in a semi-autistic way that r/woosh doesn't cover, and I efficiently attempted to explain why without missing a beat in an equally autistic manner while injecting some informative background on it.
Yes, predatory SJW types jumped on the criticism and raised a fuss, but you don't need to be a SJW to think it's trash, or that it's gross. And that's coming from someone who unfortunately ended up watching it all the way through in sub and in dub. The SJWs involved in that fiasco just jumped onto Shield Hero when GS ended because they thought they could continue with the outrage they partook in during GS. However, Shield Hero is an actually good anime, and so if you see anyone calling it woman-hating trash, you can quickly suss out they're not actual viewers of the anime, just virtue signalers.
They're not masterpieces, but that's not the problem with your assessment in calling them trash. In both situations with both animes, the articles about how it was toxic and problematic came out ahead of the actual release of the anime itself.
People threw themselves into a frenzy to denounce it for the woke points long before any of them actually knew what the source material was, and after the articles pretended that they knew while crying about the eponymous rape scene of Episode One -- while not realizing the fate of some characters in the LN are much grimmer and problematic to a progressive than anything that was in the aired series.
Literally everything else past Episode 2 was as milktoast as most isekai/mecha anime ever get, yet you didn't mention it at all.
Or, the fact that Crunchyroll outright put a trigger warning on a mature anime, while at the same time never getting any flak for ever AIRING the anime in question. Or, the fact that they have a problem with "problematic and sexy women" but 0 problems with brutal depictions of murder, gore, and mutilation.
This is the same problem mirrored in anime as is mirrored RIGHT NOW with Sony Console and PC Censorship:
The Woke Journogazi want to ban Dead or Alive 6 because of the jiggle physics, yet they give a pass on Mortal Kombat 11;
At no point did you address this similarity, this instead went straight over your head. This is what prompted me to respond.
And now here we are.
They did what you did -- dismissed the meat of the intellectual arguments of the main ideas and themes of both narratives and plots in place for focusing on the character designs and to throw shit at the wall and see what stuck with normies, while not realizing characters like the Sword Maiden can't just be "cleaned up" from being "fopping sexmoppits", because of how important those designs are in being on-model and accurate to the source material, just as much as the subject matter is.
If the production companies hadn't done that, they'd have been raked over the coals in the exact same way as Funimation is for sticking their ideological agendas into the anime they dubbed, which was the very first post I ever made addresses.
All I did was chide you about your outlook, because you didn't seem to understand the difference of tone & setting between a comedy and a dramatic soap opera Isekai, and kinda didn't see the forest for the trees from your pantleg.
And apparently you didn't grasp this because you were too busy having a fit that someone didn't like your anime, but my point by mentioning Konosuba is that if any anime should be considered 'woman hating' or 'problematic', then it should be something like Konosuba where it plays off fake allegations as a joke and that women just throw them around randomly to get what they want. Shield Hero focuses on the damage it does and shows that only the most vile people would make such an allegation, compared to Konosuba suggesting 'any girl will use it to control a guy with no concern for what that does to him'. The fact that it isn't by-and-large given that treatment (at worst it's just looked down on for being ecchi isekai and the source of so many bad copy anime) shows that the whole outrage toward Shield Hero is manufactured nonsense and not a genuine reaction.
No, no, I addressed that -- The usual suspects who write those articles and hold those ratioable opinions are the same people who willfully play fast and loose with their goalposts; And, as I said, they hate them equally, for multiple reasons that are cherry-picked and ideologically offensive in nature.
Also, what? Of course the outrage against the shows are manufactured -- all outrage about anime in general by the MSM progressive media is, and it never works for them to get them cancelled; It always has the opposite effect of drawing people in to watch them.
The things you're bringing up here aren't problems of me as an anime watcher or anyone defending or attacking your argument, they're your personal opinions about Ecchi and Isekai tropes that you're projecting out a cunt-hair bit.
You might just not like those specific genres of Isekai. That doesn't make them trash-- not as seasonals or as light novels. If you can't view this any other way than I have to be a fanatic, there's a chance that it's you. Or maybe, I explained my position and outlook in a way you saw as abrasive from the outset by my deliberate "Uhm ackshually" template without getting it -- in which case, that's my fault.
Either way, you gotta work that out on your own. I'm not your sunbae on it, you're an adult and should know what you like.
Arguing about this past the facts about the controversies is a dick-measuring contest I have no interest in.
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I love the energy and fact that these guys are figuring most of this shit out on their own with a little him from Ty and Nick.
There are even some users outright daring Sabot to play chicken with KamehaCon and to cancel to join Rial as well.
And the soy boys in Rial's comments to possibly get a piece of her is just -chef's kiss-
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This is the kind of worthless trashy cunt you pray is on the other side. Who would care that such rubbish was not showing up? Good riddance to bad garbage!
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I've been mulling over this for a while. hanleia was a devout Vic fan in 2010. Then she said she learned he was awful when she was staffing cons in 2010.
So for NINE FUCKING YEARS, she's been pissed at Vic because he was mean at cons to staff, oh and he was a homophobe, even though she says she was religious herself at the time. Something doesn't add up here.
Then when ANN put out the call for people to send stories about Vic, hanleia gets in contact, NINE YEARS LATER, when shes in Japan and supposed to be having the Fujoshi time of her life. Like, why do you still give a shit, you are like 25 years old? He never actually did anything, and you know it. You are just mad at him, but why?
Then this photo shows up in the article, that I have searched for, fucking everywhere, image searches, deviantart, you name it. So if shes been pissed at Vic for nine years, I wonder.... would she still have her photo of herself with him from a con? Would she send it to ANN as proof of "harassment"? Why would she keep such a photo for nine years?
So for NINE FUCKING YEARS, she's been pissed at Vic because he was mean at cons to staff, oh and he was a homophobe, even though she says she was religious herself at the time. Something doesn't add up here.
Then when ANN put out the call for people to send stories about Vic, hanleia gets in contact, NINE YEARS LATER, when shes in Japan and supposed to be having the Fujoshi time of her life. Like, why do you still give a shit, you are like 25 years old? He never actually did anything, and you know it. You are just mad at him, but why?
Then this photo shows up in the article, that I have searched for, fucking everywhere, image searches, deviantart, you name it. So if shes been pissed at Vic for nine years, I wonder.... would she still have her photo of herself with him from a con? Would she send it to ANN as proof of "harassment"? Why would she keep such a photo for nine years?
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If Monica was being advised by a lawyer, you'd think they would have told her not to do what she just did, so what gives?
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The lawyer is incompetent.
or
Monica ignored the lawyer.
or
There is no lawyer.
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She's an idiot. When you're an attorney, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink.
Also, it's possible she's not letting her attorney know everything. I'm betting she gave him some bullshit song and dance about being harassed by Nazis.
Also, Ron has an attorney, but we don't know 100% if she does.
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Terri Doty is claiming she has inside information that Vic had no such contract that needed to be honored.
http://archive.is/ZnSIJ
http://archive.is/ZnSIJ
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My only legit experience with Fist of the North Star was the original Gameboy game... That was probably the most amazing thing I've ever seen! As others have said, I was laughing so hard my eyes were watery. The only thing I would suggest was making the checkmarks flip over to become big L's.
Once again, they do precisely the wrong thing. The ride never ends.
Do we have any confirmation that Monica has a lawyer yet? I presume she would have been told not to do this.
Not sure if I believe it or not, but that question begs the question if Monica might be REEgor, expecting Iago will come to her aid.
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The delusion of these brainless cunts is fairly flabbergasting.
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Monica is claiming that she and Chris didn't pressure the con.
I'll bet a nickel that she doesn't -- because they sure would have told her not to make a statement like that.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190324073938/https:/twitter.com/Rialisms/status/1109708425376743425
https://archive.fo/TKMIw
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Again, if they didn't have a binding contract, why did they reinvite Vic? Ty even went straight to negotiate with Kameha Con, and Nick got a tip from someone at Kameha Con about it.
Why are you not giving more details? Why even talk about it if you're not going to elaborate? Why are you saying "that's not true, but I'm not giving you the proof that it's not true"?
Fuck this stupid fucking game these people are playing.
She denies pressuring multiple cons, not this one in particular.
But, I mean, if Ty and Nick's information differ from what Rial is saying, that's a problem. So, either Ty and Nick are lying (or duped) or Rial is lying.
Who do you want to bet about who's lying and who is not?
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ok so let me get this straight Kamahecon announces Vic is coming back before this mess started..... That would be a prospective contract. That would still fall under TI with a contract. Why do these VAs think they can lawyer on the net?
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I wish these utter fucking dimwits luck trying to pull this shit on a judge.
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Ty explicitly said Vic had a contract, and I believe him over this dumb bitch.
Before I turn in for the night, I just want to add that, after last night, I'm betting Shane isn't thirsty for Round 2 anymore. Mr. "I know everything about cons" took a devastating L on this one.
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Sure, they could kick him out if he attended, but if they were going to, they'd probably just ban him from the convention. Since he's doing it for a paycheck (and also his fans, but still a paycheck) just being disinvited is enough to have him not show. However, I don't think most of the cons have banned him, other than Shane's. They disinvited him to avoid 'endorsing' him, so him showing up of his own accord wouldn't likely be a problem. Except for him, obviously, since he'd be unable to do any panels and truly interact with his fans in any efficient way.
You're not getting my point at all. My point from the start was that I disliked the fact that you're somehow disallowed to think Goblin Slayer is a trash anime or you're either SJW or pandering to the SJWs, when the more accurate anime to point to for that is Shield Hero. Goblin Slayer does not improve after episode one, it continues to be awful. It only cares about showing instead of telling if the 'showing' involves gratuitous violence and a bunch of goblins deciding to eat a girl.
I don't care about what they're doing to DoA or to anything else. My point is that Goblin Slayer is a terrible, crappy anime that creeps under the radar using 'only snowflake man haters don't like this anime' as a shield against every criticism that gets levied against it. And thus, I find it incredibly annoying. Especially when there's much better anime to use that on, like Shield Hero, that is legitimately only targeted by people who are looking for outrage - and that's evidenced by the fact that the crap that's complained about in Shield Hero is the same thing that shows up almost everywhere else in ecchi comedy anime.
If you like Goblin Slayer, good for you. I never said you couldn't, and I said the opposite, in fact. You just can't see past your knee-jerk reaction that maybe sometimes people can dislike a crappy anime for reasons that aren't just the patriarchy.
And by the way, since you still don't get it, I don't dislike isekai harem or Konosuba. I like them (at least the ones that don't drown themselves in a pointless harem that totally derails the story, like Smartphone, Ragnarok, and Death March), I was just using them as an example that the accusations against Shield Hero have no weight, because if the people protesting Shield Hero actually cared and weren't just looking for something to stoke the fires of their outrage, they'd target those, not Shield Hero.
Now seriously, stop blowing up at me with novel length rants because you didn't like a paragraph length of something I said.
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Ty has seen the contract and expressed surprise that it was only 2-3 pages, while more lawyered up enterprises often have absurdly long contracts for even minor things like the rental of some 1000 square foot business property.