Inactive Gwen Hartley & The Hartley Hooligans - Attention Seeking Horrorshow Mom of Two Dead Gremlins & Finally Free Human Son

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Has anyone been able to dig up Claire's death certificate? Since Gwen is now lying by omission and trying to imply that seizures played a part in her death and that CBD oil would have helped, it reminded me that we still don't know exactly which blight got the potato. I'm curious what the actual medical community, and not Gwen, says the cause of death was.
 
Has anyone been able to dig up Claire's death certificate? Since Gwen is now lying by omission and trying to imply that seizures played a part in her death and that CBD oil would have helped, it reminded me that we still don't know exactly which blight got the potato. I'm curious what the actual medical community, and not Gwen, says the cause of death was.
I looked into it. It’s $15, and Kansas requires you to state your relationship to the deceased and purpose for the cert.
 
I'm guessing 'for the lulz' is not a valid purpose...

I looked a bit further myself, hoping legal/legislative interest (due to Claire and Lola's Weed for Gremlins Law) might be enough, but sadly: "Certified copies of Kansas death certificates are issued to an immediate family member, a legal representative, or anyone who can prove a direct interest, such as a named beneficiary or someone who jointly owns property with the person whose record is requested. Proof of representation, direct interest, or written authorization is required if you are not named on the record or an immediate family member."
 
I looked a bit further myself, hoping legal/legislative interest (due to Claire and Lola's Weed for Gremlins Law) might be enough, but sadly: "Certified copies of Kansas death certificates are issued to an immediate family member, a legal representative, or anyone who can prove a direct interest, such as a named beneficiary or someone who jointly owns property with the person whose record is requested. Proof of representation, direct interest, or written authorization is required if you are not named on the record or an immediate family member."

Kansas laws are pretty archaic, to be fair. It would take one hell of a legal team to get them to budge and let you in. As interesting as the death cert would be for learning purposes, it's not worth the hassle. It's almost not worth the hassle even if you are next of kin.
 
Has anyone been able to dig up Claire's death certificate? Since Gwen is now lying by omission and trying to imply that seizures played a part in her death and that CBD oil would have helped, it reminded me that we still don't know exactly which blight got the potato. I'm curious what the actual medical community, and not Gwen, says the cause of death was.

So I was actually looking into finding Claire's death record, as it's not the same as a certificate and some states will let you see the record but make you pay for the death certificate as many have mentioned. Obviously Kansas is archaic so that's not gonna happen and the red tape is thick unless you're family, which Thank the lawwwd Im not. I did notice on one of the sites though that the fee is non-refundable, I guess Kansas gotta get that money somehow.

I read through all the parts of the thread I missed out on while being away, and I remember people were curious as to how Gwen managed to weasle another "Night to Shine" Tim Tebow invitation for Lola when she's younger than the required age to participate. Then I stumbled across Claire's Obituary and Im pretty sure I found the answer. I didn't see it posted yet, so if I missed it, I apologize. Anyway here it is:

Hartley, Claire Elise 17, was born July 25, 2001 and passed away Monday, December 17, 2018. Claire is survived by her parents, Scott and Gwen Hartley; brother, Cal Hartley; sister, Lola Hartley; grandparents, Jim and Cheryl Hartley and Jack and Lynn Pohlenz; uncles and aunts, Brett and Lynda Hartley, Tom and Margo Wagner, Jill Pohlenz; cousins, Maranda, Ali, Elisabeth, Christina, Madeline, and Thomas. We would like to extend a heartfelt thanks to her special caregivers, Tracey Sims, Rachel Johnstone, Charcie Cook, and Hannah Seirer; and nurses, Lucille Chapman, LuQueeda Franklin, and Beverly Bruce. Claire's disabilities never limited her life. She was pure joy, 100% love, and straight-up magic. She will be dearly missed by all who had the privilege of knowing and loving her. A celebration of Claire's life will be held at 2:30 pm, Saturday, December 22, at East Heights United Methodist Church, 4407 E. Douglas. In lieu of flowers, please make a donation to: Night To Shine in c/o the Tim Tebow Foundation and Make A Wish Foundationof Kansas. Share condolences at www.CozineMemorial.com. Services by Broadway Mortuary.

So good old Gwenneh the Crazy asked for donations in lieu of flowers, and asked that those donations go specifically to "A night to Shine" and not just the Tim Tebow foundation in general, and of course Make-A-Wish, because she also abused their kindness for years too.

So right after Claire died, Gwen realized she better act quickly if she wanted to secure a spot to this year's prom "A Night to Shine" knowing that Lola wouldn't get an invitation otherwise. That crazy Gwen, always thinking of ways to attention whore at her kids expense of the children!
 
I'm guessing 'for the lulz' is not a valid purpose...

I bet that one doctor could make a request by enclosing all of Gwen’s crazy, hate filled, annual letters. Permission granted.

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Gwen posted this on her personal page. Claire was “everything”... except a brain.
 
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I bet that one doctor could make a request by enclosing all of Gwen’s crazy, hate filled, annual letters. Permission granted.

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Gwen posted this on her personal page. Claire was “everything”... except a brain.
I get that losing a child is horrible on a parent (though I'm having doubts Gwen actually feels any love for her children in spite of everything) but to constantly post these things when you have two living (and one sentient) children still around is just cruel. Cal is likely in mourning as well and has constant reminders of his sister's death as well as reading that his dead sister was his mom's "everything". It's just horrific to see someone so devoid of love to her children and to only care about them as they pertain to her. Even if two of them were potatoes, if you've chosen to bring them in this world then you have to at least give them some quality of life and love. Especially if you think they are sentient in any way
 
Gwen said:
Claire's disabilities never limited her life.
I'm cracking up at this obscenely blatant lie. This is the kind of statement you use for an athlete in the paralympics, not someone who was too disabled for the special ed class in preschool. It's not like she kept their lives private either, everyone in that town knows who they are and how disabled they are/were. Except it's Kansas so some people actually do buy it even after experiencing them personally.
 
I'm cracking up at this obscenely blatant lie. This is the kind of statement you use for an athlete in the paralympics, not someone who was too disabled for the special ed class in preschool. It's not like she kept their lives private either, everyone in that town knows who they are and how disabled they are/were. Except it's Kansas so some people actually do buy it even after experiencing them personally.

I noticed that myself. Something else I noticed is that whenever good ole crazy eyed Gwen posts something about Claire, she uses her baby pictures. Even on one of the memorials I stumbled across looking for the death record and obituary, I saw her using Claire's baby pictures.

I'm guessing it's because Claire looked a bit more normal as a baby? Not by much, but better than she looked as she got older and far better than Lola can ever hope to appear.

It's like Gwen wants people to remember Claire that way, only she forgets she posted pictures of her tubers often and Claire was only "cute" for a modicum of time.

I'm not sure why I expect anything crazy ass Gwen does to make sense though. This is a 40 something year old woman who talks and writes like a 12 year old trying to be edgy and whose cognitive dissonance is off the charts.
 
Something else I noticed is that whenever good ole crazy eyed Gwen posts something about Claire, she uses her baby pictures. ...

I'm guessing it's because Claire looked a bit more normal as a baby? Not by much, but better than she looked as she got older and far better than Lola can ever hope to appear.
As a baby, Claire was quite cute. She was blonde, with big eyes and chubby cheeks. It's actually rather sad since, if she were normal, there was a very good chance she would have grown up into a beautiful young lady. Instead ... her limbs got twisted and (since her head/skull couldn't grow to contain her adult features) her eyes bugged out of her skull and her adult teeth were way too large for her mouth. In her earliest pictures, even her expressions were fairly typical of newborns/young babies and it wasn't until she got older that it became clear that, although her lights may have been on, there was literally no one home.

Now as for Lola ... that poor kid has always been very unfortunate looking.
 
Per Gwen's Facebook, Kansas lawmakers will be voting on her precious marijuana bill within the next few hours. Curious to see how it goes down, but tbh her reaction will be insufferable regardless of the outcome. Here's the livestream she links to, in case anyone wants to watch it.
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Please keep us posted, especially if anything noteworthy happens!

As an aside, what the fuck are those shirts the kids are wearing? I get that they don't pick out their outfits, but whatever homeopathic oils Gwen has been ingesting seem to have rotted what little brain she had left if she thinks those shirts are a good idea.

I'm so sick of this Mommy Blogger "raAaAwWwR I'm such brave!! Much waRrIoR mAmA bEaR" bullshit rhetoric these crazies love to push. You're not a warrior Karen, you sell shitty essential oils and your overpriced patterned LuLa Roe leggings aren't making a statement, they're just ugly. A warrior actually fights, all you do is make badly spelled, passive aggressive Facebook posts.

I feel like those types are 50% of Gwen's audience, the other 50% are trolls harvesting lulz.
 
Per Gwen's Facebook, Kansas lawmakers will be voting on her precious marijuana bill within the next few hours.
I have never wanted to see a pro-cannabis/marijuana bill fail but, for this one, I will make an exception.

I'm so sick of this Mommy Blogger "raAaAwWwR I'm such brave!! Much waRrIoR mAmA bEaR" bullshit rhetoric these crazies love to push. You're not a warrior Karen, you sell shitty essential oils and your overpriced patterned LuLa Roe leggings aren't making a statement, they're just ugly. A warrior actually fights, all you do is make badly spelled, passive aggressive Facebook posts.
If the warrior thing makes you angry, I'm going to guess you've never seen the posts where Gwennie claims she is the mommy to two girls with super-powers. IIRC, she had one in a Wonder Woman shirt and the other in a shirt with the Superman "S" logo.

The girls are literally unable to turn themselves over and Gwennie calls it a super power. :\
 
I have never wanted to see a pro-cannabis/marijuana bill fail but, for this one, I will make an exception.


If the warrior thing makes you angry, I'm going to guess you've never seen the posts where Gwennie claims she is the mommy to two girls with super-powers. IIRC, she had one in a Wonder Woman shirt and the other in a shirt with the Superman "S" logo.

The girls are literally unable to turn themselves over and Gwennie calls it a super power. :\


Well fuck, now I've got some rage stalking to do. And I thought I was going to actually be useful today.

She's going to be super fucked when that other tuber finally goes to the deep fryer in the sky. Not even kidding, I don't ever see her with friends (her husband is a hostage so that doesn't count) or doing anything remotely in the realm of a hobby, and I know she doesn't have a job and probably has zero marketable skills. She's got her entire identity wrapped up 'tater wrangling; If you asked Gwen to describe herself in one sentence, without mentioning her 'taters or that she's a mom, she couldn't do it.

Even with Claire being in that lovely vegetable patch in the sky, Gwen still refers to herself as "The mom of two sUpEr sPeShUl girls" even though it's just one now, and we all know Cal isn't good enough for this MBP "mama bear". If those girls weren't born completely useless shells that she could use for attention, she probably would've made them sick. She reminds me of Shan'ann Watts in that regard, only Shan'ann would doctor shop with her kids until she found one willing to give out the diagnoses she wanted. Shan'ann was also into the woo bullshit too, giving her kids essential oils in place of real medicine at times.

I don't know what makes these women with no formal education or medical training think they know better than an actual MD, but it's frightening. There was a few cases within the last year or so where these MLM mothers with no education beyond High School were going around giving each other advice on what oils to use in place of actual Rx meds. Of course it's never themselves they practice on, just their young kids. Anyway, I can think of atleast two cases where the mothers took away their children's prednisone and rescue inhalers and instead decided to give them non diluted essential oil rollers. Only when the kids turned blue did they realize "oh shit there's a problem" and actually took the kids to the ER. As a result, they died and the mothers didn't get in trouble, which is ridiculous.

Thank goodness Gwenneh is too old to have any more baked potatoes.
 
I am not an artist. But, I was wondering what Lola would look like if she was born without any defects. So I drew this quick sketch during work. It was difficult to draw tbh. View attachment 707719
Poor Lola. Honestly it breaks my heart that her narcissistic bitch of a mother has forced her into this non-existence. I'm a huge cunt so I hate feeling the feels for these kids. I just can't imagine being a big enough monster to have one potato, having the doctors tell me that since my husband and I carry the same defect that we will most definitely have another potato, then saying fuck you by having another potato. Such a sad situation.
 
Poor Lola. Honestly it breaks my heart that her narcissistic bitch of a mother has forced her into this non-existence. I'm a huge cunt so I hate feeling the feels for these kids. I just can't imagine being a big enough monster to have one potato, having the doctors tell me that since my husband and I carry the same defect that we will most definitely have another potato, then saying fuck you by having another potato. Such a sad situation.

I can understand Claire existing. But, not Lola. I have feels for the poor kid too. I mean how can a mother see one of her children suffer with the disorder and when she finds out that her third child has the same disorder, why did she not terminate it!? I just don’t understand. What is Lola’s purpose in life. She is not even living her life... she is just alive.
 
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