Disaster Article 13 has passed : EU - Eurocucks - your memes have no home here. All amendments rejected.

Article 13 approved by European Parliament by 438 votes to 226
September 12, 2018







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MEPs have voted to pass the much-discussed Article 13 of the European Copyright Directive. Of the 751 politicians voting on the directive today in Strasbourg, 438 voted in favour, 226 against and 39 abstained.


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Sylvie Guillaume

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Soulagement après le vote sur la directive #droitdauteur. L'Europe de la diversité culturelle renforcée, une presse indépendante et la liberté d'expression préservées après le vote du rapport @AxelVossMdEP. Les négociations vont pouvoir enfin débuter avec le Conseil.

9:02 PM - Sep 12, 2018


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This section of the proposed legislation would make internet platforms liable for copyrighted content uploaded by their users:

“Article 13 creates an obligation on information society service providers storing and giving access to large amounts of works and other subject-matter uploaded by their users to take appropriate and proportionate measures to ensure the functioning of agreements concluded with rightholders and to prevent the availability on their services of content identified by rightholders in cooperation with the service providers”

This would remove the ‘safe harbours’ that have been a long-term bugbear for music rightsholders, who see them as responsible for the ‘value gap’ between the music royalties paid by platforms like YouTube, and those that do not benefit from safe harbours, like Spotify and Apple Music.

Critics of Article 13 argue that it would damage key principles of free expression online by forcing platforms to filter anything that might be copyrighted content, while also damaging the chances of small internet startups to compete with giants like Google/YouTube, who can afford to spend tens of millions of dollars building tools like the latter’s ContentID to comply with the legislation.

The news is already being celebrated by music rightsholders and their representative bodies, but will come as a blow to the technology companies and activists who had been campaigning against the proposal.

Independent body Impala was one of the first to hail the news, describing it as a “great result for creators”. Boss Helen Smith had published an opinion piece earlier this week defending the proposed legislation. “Nobody in our community is suggesting ‘tearing down the internet.’ What we are asking lawmakers to do is to make sure that it works for everyone,” she wrote.




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MEP @AxelVossMdEP Proposal wins the vote, great result for creators #EuropeforCreators

8:59 PM - Sep 12, 2018


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Paul Pacifico, boss of UK independent body AIM, hailed the vote as “a great day for music and culture in Europe” in a tweet shortly after the vote. He also published an opinion piece this week, criticising the lobbying tactics of companies and organisations who had opposed Article 13.




Paul Pacifico

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A great day for culture and music in #europe as the #copyrightdirective is adopted by @Europarl_EN including #article13 - thank you #MEPs from all parties for your energetic and highly engaged approach to this very sensitive and important legislation.

9:06 PM - Sep 12, 2018


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Google provided this statement to Music Ally following the vote. “People want access to quality news and creative content online,” said a spokesperson. “We’ve always said that more innovation and collaboration are the best way to achieve a sustainable future for the European news and creative sectors, and we’re committed to continued close partnership with these industries.”

[Also passed today was Article 11, which focuses more on the news side of things.)

MEP Julia Reda, who had been one of the prominent critics of the proposals, summarised the fears in a tweet posted after the vote was carried.


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Julia Reda

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Article 13 vote: The European Parliament endorses #uploadfilters for all but the smallest sites and apps. Anything you want to publish will need to first be approved by these filters, perfectly legal content like parodies & memes will be caught in the crosshairs #SaveYourInternet

8:57 PM - Sep 12, 2018


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We’ll be covering reactions to the news in the coming hours here, so check back on this story regularly for updates.
https://musically.com/2018/09/12/article-13-approved-by-european-parliament-by-438-votes-to-226/

EU approves controversial internet copyright law, including ‘link tax’ and ‘upload filter’
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Key provisions were amended to reduce potential harm, but critics say vote is ‘catastrophic’
By James Vincent@jjvincent Sep 12, 2018, 7:12am EDTSHARE
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The European Parliament has voted on changes to the Copyright Directive, a piece of legislation intended to update copyright for the internet age. In a session this morning, MEPs approved amended versions of the directive’s most controversial provisions: Articles 11 and 13, dubbed by critics as the “link tax” and “upload filter.”

Article 11 is intended to give publishers and newspapers a way to make money when companies like Google link to their stories, while Article 13 requires platforms like YouTube and Facebook to scan uploaded content to stop the unlicensed sharing of copyrighted material. Critics say these two provisions pose a dire threat to the free flow of information online, and will be open to abuse by copyright trolls and censors.

READ MORE: EU COPYRIGHT DIRECTIVE: WHAT’S AT STAKE
Defenders of the Copyright Directive and its controversial clauses say this is an unfair characterization. They point to existing laws and newly-introduced amendments that will block the worst excesses of this legislation (like, for example, a law that excuses parodies and memes from copyright claims). They say that the campaign against the directive has been funded by US tech giants eager to retain their control over the web’s platforms.

In remarks following the vote in Parliament this morning, MEP Axel Voss, who has led the charge on introducing Articles 11 and 13 thanked his fellow politicians “for the job we have done together.” “This is a good sign for the creative industries in Europe,” said Voss.

Opposing MEPs like Julia Reda of the Pirate Party described the outcome as “catastrophic.”

It’s important to note that this is far from the end of the story for the Copyright Directive and its impact on the web. The legislation approved today still faces a final vote in the European Parliament in January (where it’s possible, though very unlikely, it will be rejected). After that, individual EU member states will still get to choose how to put the directive in law. In other words, each country will be able to interpret the directive as they see fit.

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https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/12/17849868/eu-internet-copyright-reform-article-11-13-approved

 
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See, these are all in Germany. So even if every single German MEP listened to these protestors and voted no on Article 13, it still would have passed because no one was paying attention Britain, France, Belgium, Holland, etc, etc etc... This is why people don't like the EU. This is why the EU is turning into an anti-democratic force. The people are now so far removed from the policy makers who have a real effect on their lives, there is nothing they can do to get their voices heard.
I agree with you, but here is a small correction.
Most protests took place in Germany not all.
Here is a map of all protests:
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too bad all that gay activism amounted to shit :story:
I also thought that the protests will not change anything, but the consequences will be interesting.
How pissed is the German youth after their first time thinking about politics and contributing,
and got fucked in the ass afterwards for that.
They are really pissed.
How will the German youth act?
That's the interesting point.
 
I'm just sitting here wondering to what extent this will fuck up the furry fandom. Surely there's a plus side to all this?
Sadly not much.
The filter isn't that much of a problem in terms of completly creative content.
Only that you can falsely claim it's your content, like Youtube.
The filter works in theory like the youtube filter, with all the same problems,
falsely striking content, striking transformative content etc. .
What concerns me is about wrong think content.

The filter goes a step more this time.
They want to create a new licensing practice for the MSM,
like articles and other media content like movies, TV shows.
Basically if you want to use an article you need the ok and license from the holder.
"Oh you want to use my article for your video and criticizing the lies in it, lol no faggot."
"Wikipedia want to use my article for their website for citing? No problem, pay X$ you dumb faggot."
At least it's a possible outcome.

For properties like "Spongebob", "Shark Tank" etc. .
Platforms can buy the licence so they can use them freely but other platforms can't use them.
You know these Family Guy cuts on Youtube?
They could be forbidden on Youtube but not on MyVideo if they got the license.
At leat in theory.
 
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The filter isn't that much of a problem in terms of completly creative content.
Only that you can falsely claim it's your content, like youtube.
The filter works in theory like the youtube filter, with all the same problems,
falsely striking content, striking transformative content etc. .
What concerns me is about wrong think content.

The filter goes a step more this time.
They want to create a new licensing practices for the MSM,
like articles and other media content like movies, TV shows.
Basically if you want to use an article you need the ok and license from the holder.
"Oh you want to use my article for your video and criticizing the lies in it, lol no faggot."
"Wikipedia want to use my article for their website for citing? No problem, pay X$ you dumb faggot."
At least it's a possible outcome.

For properties like "Spongebob", "Shark Tank" etc. . Platforms can buy the licence so they can use them freely but other platforms can't use them. You know these Family Guy cuts on youtube? They could be forbidden.
At leat in theory.
In this day and age, with all the bullshit and false flagging that people like to do, I can't wait to see how they'll exploit this. Hell, I'd laugh if someone tried to claim stuff the EU tried to put out as their own material instead.
 
In this day and age, with all the bullshit and false flagging that people like to do, I can't wait to see how they'll exploit this. Hell, I'd laugh if someone tried to claim stuff the EU tried to put out as their own material instead.

Yeah I've been thinking about that. Alex Mauer comes to mind as does a thing where a rapper that lifted an old bit-tune and rapped over it and when called out on it successfully DMCA'd the original off of youtube. It was a "might makes right" situation where he was much bigger so everything tilted in his favor. Anyone remember that? The details are hazy but it was something crazy like that.

But it opens up the possibility that a tv-show that broadcasts your meme/cat video now owns your meme/cat video and can take it off the internet because they register their content in the content filter. It sounds too stupid to ever happen but it's the geniuses at the EU that will create these fair and balanced rules of the internet.

How badly does the Internet need Europe anyway?

Germany has cornered the market on producing fisting porn, you really want to bring those jobs to your country?
 
Oh god, just nuke EU and be done with it. What a pathetic place it has become.
Wasn't it pathetic from the beginning?
Europe was a fucking failure from the start.

Only few countries were worth to join together but we took everybody.
I don't want to think about how much money Germany and France had thrown at shithole countries ( no offense to other euros).
I know our laws (Germany) aren't that good in many terms but we had at least money.
 
A digital dark age is looming.
It's literally becoming like out of my fictional books. In them ALL internet activity is on a geographical-based platform (called the Nexus) and it you want to even send an email to another country you have to get permission OR use the services of a Hacker.

We have VPNs and Tor thankfully right now, but in the future even they may not be enough folks.
 
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