That's like saying if I shoot a bullet at you trying to hit you I was "politely fanning your head with air". Clearly that piece of shit freak tried to have him swatted or fucked up.
Again zoom is a time wasting fag but even if he did call the cops out for an emergency (and this call out was over a fat man who couldn't turn his computer off and just wanted to return to ocean to be with his people and can't make sushi for his mother) it's still not a swatting.
Every time someone uses that word in the context of police turning up at someone's door it robs it of it's meaning. A couple of cops knocked on Ralph's door, they chatted and left. Zoom was streaming the whole thing so it's fair to say at least one day actually watching zoom could have clued Ralph in. If you want to call it a swatting then Chris gets swatted pretty regular, DSP got swatted and people get swatted for noise complaints and parking violations.
Unless armed police surround your house / or a guy with a bullhorn tells you to come out with your hands up or (mist importantly) SWAT turn up you were not swatted.
It's like crying Dox because someone says your name
"I've been drinking, I have a knife and CP on my computer."
So question: why would paramedics respond to someone saying that they are:
1.) Not in the right place of mind (inebriated);
2.) Armed (knife), and;
3.) Claiming they have child porn on their computer
SOP for situations like that is the cops respond to make sure the paramedics are safe before paramedics enter the location. This routinely means the cops are on a hair-trigger because they are willingly walking into a possible dangerous situation. That's a general "across the board" SOP used by police departments.
This was an attempted swatting no matter how you try to play it off.
"I've been drinking, I have a knife and CP on my computer."
So question: why would paramedics respond to someone saying that they are:
1.) Not in the right place of mind (inebriated);
2.) Armed (knife), and;
3.) Claiming they have child porn on their computer
SOP for situations like that is the cops respond to make sure the paramedics are safe before paramedics enter the location. This routinely means the cops are on a hair-trigger because they are willingly walking into a possible dangerous situation. That's a general "across the board" SOP used by police departments.
This was an attempted swatting no matter how you try to play it off.
Firstly
The quote is out of context and is a summary
It conveniently misses zoom sperging about YouTube, needing instructions on how you turn off and walk away from a computer and his mother's all sushi diet and Ralph's desire to return to the sea to be with his people.
But let's just agree and say zooms goal was to swat Ralph, He's a vicious little porker so that's fair assumption.
Claiming you were swatted on air and claiming you were attempted to be swatted on air and having the police show up at your door are different things.
An attempt to swat regardless of how shitty that is doesn't equal I was swatted.
I never said it was a real swatting at any point. I did, however, say the intent was to swat him, and thus calling it an attempt--which as been my phrasing--is justified. It's why intent is used in the law as well, and justifies various levels for crimes. For example, if you kill someone with the intent to kill them, it's first-degree homicide; however if you kill someone without intent, it's usually lowered to involuntary manslaughter or negligent homicide. Likewise, if you intend to kill someone but fail for whatever reason, they usually charge you with some form of assault and battery with intent to murder. Intent is what makes the crimes what they are, and it is no different here.
Again zoom is a time wasting fag but even if he did call the cops out for an emergency (and this call out was over a fat man who couldn't turn his computer off and just wanted to return to ocean to be with his people and can't make sushi for his mother) it's still not a swatting.
Every time someone uses that word in the context of police turning up at someone's door it robs it of it's meaning. A couple of cops knocked on Ralph's door, they chatted and left. Zoom was streaming the whole thing so it's fair to say at least one day actually watching zoom could have clued Ralph in. If you want to call it a swatting then Chris gets swatted pretty regular, DSP got swatted and people get swatted for noise complaints and parking violations.
Unless armed police surround your house / or a guy with a bullhorn tells you to come out with your hands up or (mist importantly) SWAT turn up you were not swatted.
It's like crying Dox because someone says your name
Well, I'm old so I don't know all these hip terms. I can only say that it's bullshit and that focusing on the name it's given is fucking childish. These actions need to be condemned. Period. Police are not your fucking toys to be sent around for lols.
I never said it was a real swatting at any point. I did, however, say the intent was to swat him, and thus calling it an attempt--which as been my phrasing--is justified. It's why intent is used in the law as well, and justifies various levels for crimes. For example, if you kill someone with the intent to kill them, it's first-degree homicide; however if you kill someone without intent, it's usually lowered to involuntary manslaughter or negligent homicide. Likewise, if you intend to kill someone but fail for whatever reason, they usually charge you with some form of assault and battery with intent to murder. Intent is what makes the crimes what they are, and it is no different here.
I get your point but attempt or intent isn't equal to actually pulling it off.
In an attempted murder you don't get declared dead afterwards but it is treated as if that was the end goal.
Did zoom intend to swat, probably
Was it an attempt to swat, you could very easily argue and prove so.
Did an actually swatting take place - No
Is zoom a faggot - yes
@Gustav Schuchardt asked was Ralph swatted live on air.
No that did not take place
Did zoom ATTEMPT/INTEND to swat Ralph live on air.....very likely
Besides Ralph's a cool guy, The police and FBI showed up at his place and instead of tearing everything he owns apart looking for CP they browsed cow and laughed together, I'm sure swat would show up and Ralph would just direct them to zooms thread and they would laugh about what a huge sperg he is.....
In these recorded conversations, Corey Barnhill admits to conditioning an underage girl into watching child pornography with him. In the call, she describes how he forced her to masturbate to child pornography featuring a 6-year-old girl being anally raped. The girl is herself a childhood sexual assault victim who shamefully admits she had an orgasm while being raped. Corey uses this admission to try and groom her and make her more comfortable with child sex.
Known to some as [Lulz] Xyrix, or known as Zoom if you just came from the exceptional trainwreck known as Internet Bloodsports. His thirst for recognition traces back over a decade ago when he originally was on a group known for hacking 4chan back on 2007.
The largest achievement for the hacker group known as "Lulz" was making 4chan redirect to a domain named "http://diditforthelulz.com". That event ended up being a huge downer for the entire group, since many amateur mistakes were made during that time. These included stupid demands from "Angyl" to moot and another key member of the group (CeLe) was actually the owner of Glexia, the host of 4chan at the time, rendering the entire event pointless script kiddy shit.
If you're curious, the "demands" from Angyl can be seen here:
RING...RING...
Moot: Hello?
Recorder: **fails to move away from the mic to breath in
Angyl: Hey moot, I'm sorry if I came off a little harsh from... our previous conversation - I didn't really mean it, is this a better connection?
Moot: Yeah
Angyl: Yeah? So whats up? Still going through bank statements?
Moot: Yeap.
Angyl: Is it fun?
Moot: Not really because I never open my bank statements. They just - they go and they get thrown into a box... and...
Angyl: You sound - you sound kinda upset, are you havin' a bad night?
Moot: No, I haven't slept!
Angyl: You haven't slept? Why? Is like - you Haven't... slept because of the bank statements or because... uhhh... 4chan got hijacked?
Moot: Ummmm... 'cause I'm the only tech person at 4chan, and when things go wrong it is my responsibility to - figure things out
Angyl: Really? So you - said earlier when we talked it's a silly site anyway so why do you care so much? Why bother?
Moot: interupts I don't - I don't believe we've ever spoken before, I didn't say that when you called...
Angyl: Um... Yeah, when I called about... five minutes ago - You always say you don't really give a... about 4chan anyway
Moot: I - I - I didn't say that when you called, I didn't say anything like that ---
Angyl: interrupts Look, HEY! How bad do you want your domain back? I'm just wondering...
Moot: sarcasic Oh, you know... so bad. Why?
Angyl: Because I'm...
Moot: Do you want something?
Angyl: I'm just wondering what you're willing to do to get the domain back...
Moot: What? Do you want me to like, bend down and...give out BLOW JAYS or somethin'?
Angyl: Ewww, No... that's like... talking at same time like kinda emo, you know? That's just gross. I don't know, what would you be willing to do to get it back?
Moot: I don't know...What are you looking for? Not looking for BLOW JAYs so what the fuck you do want?
Angyl: Wool (Well)... I don't know... I'm looking for a good offer...
Moot: I offered you BLOW JAYs! I mean, be more (Attention whore Giggles) specific here - what the fuck do you want? Apparently, you're not a - you're not - you find me to be emo and unattractive, you know - hurt my feelings here.
Angyl: Awwwwwww
Moot: But what ---
Angyl: interrupts I loved the sarcasm by the way!
Moot: Yeah, it's staple - how I deal with being tired and... frustrated. So what do you want?
Angyl: Mmmmmm well, I was just wondering what kind of pizza it was?
Moot: Uhhhhhh, today I ate a cheese pizza. Why are you going to start ordering me pizzas?
Angyl: ... I don't know, Do you want one?
Moot: Naaaaa, I already - I got one in the fridge.
Angyl: You sure? I mean, you're talking about ordering pizzas, you must want one. I mean I could order you one if you want...
Moot: I didn't - I didn't say I was going to order a pizza, I said I HAD pizza.
Angyl: No, I said you were talking about ordering pizzas, me ordering you pizzas. Well, if you really want --- (Moot: Unh-Unh)...... cause your obviously (Moot: Nooooo) thinking about it, it's the first thing that came to mind. Whut? Do you think I'm going to like, try and raid you or something? Do you think I care that much?
Moot: Well you're a girl, so that would be a step up for me wouldn't it?
Angyl: I guess if you wanted... Yeah, I'm a girl - not a trap.
Moot: Not a trap...
Angyl: Not a trap.
Moot: So, what - what ex - what exactly do you - do you want in return for leaving me alone... and... we're - allowing me to regain control?
Angyl: I don't know, I want some something pretty fucking lulzy - it's gotta be like epic lulz.
Moot: Lulz? What about, a Longcat plushie? What about...
Angyl: humphhh (Moot: I mean...) You know, I want - I want some kind - some kind of picture or something, something thats really great.
Moot: Hmmmmmm
typing on keyboards
Angyl: That should work...
Moot: talk at same time
Angyl: I'm mean are kinda cu - No, I'm just saying your kinda cute. And - A little fansign, would be a... start in the right direction of getting me to leave you alone.
Moot: Say what?
Angyl: A little amusing fansign would probably, you know... be a start in the right direction for getting me to leave you alone.
Moot: Well, I love female attention... so who says I want you leave me alone?
Angyl: Hmmmmmmm?
Moot: I mean, what if I'm an attention whore and I don't want you to leave me alone?
Angyl: Well then, I guess that would just make sense - I mean, you are the fuckin' - well, you WERE the owner of 4chan and all. That'd be in a sense whoring.
Moot: It's true
Angyl: Hmmmmm... so... are you gonna to take the first step in the right direction?
Moot: I don't know. Give me a specific, what - again, what do you want?
Angyl: For a first thing I want, I think a FULL, you know, body, face included, everything picture - with the words, fuckin' - "Angel ownz me" somewhere on it. What would be kinda amusing, I'd probably lulz a little...
Moot: Angel?
Angyl: Yeah, but it's not - it's A-N-G-Y-L. Yeah.
Moot: Ah, A-N-G-Y-L. Is this like from Bantown or GNAA or anything, or ED?
Angyl: No I'm not from. So... mmmmm, why do you think I'd be from there? Doesn't a bunch of ---
Moot: I don't know. Well, who are you with then? I don't - I'm not sure I follow... troll groups, very often.
Angyl: I'm... kinda... with myself here.
Moot: Oh!
Angyl: But, how indecipherable anybody who wants to troll? So about that fansign... I'm waiting...
Moot: I'm... going through bills.
Angyl: Well, maybe you should stop. You know, start getting 4chan back - I mean thats pretty embarrassing. One of the most fuckin embarrassing things - like - for the internet, is to get fuckin - defaced. And 4chan is getting fucking hijacked, and even worse dude - you got open DNS jacked! You have no fucking security on your site whatsoever!
Moot: I don't even know what that means... What is - what is, I know - I know open DNS is - is a DNS server, that they have there - often ad supported, your page not found pages. Uhh, what do you mean? The name servers allows for a DNS transfer or something?
Angyl: You don't even know do you?
Moot: I'm not exactly into computers, enlighten me.
Angyl: Wow...
Moot: I kinda - I kinda got stuck with that whole system administrator job, it's not like I chose it - I don't like computers.
Angyl: You don't like computers? How can you not like computers and run 4chan? Not only... I think it's a indecipherable that you don't have 4chan anymore, honestly - cause you fucked it up! You fucking ruined 4chan. Slowly over time you just picked and picked at it and changed fucking rules and just picked and picked and you fucking destroyed it bro. Why would you ---
Moot: Hey my mom is - my - my mom is calling me, so I'm gonna go. Mommies got a... feelin'. I gotta go through these bills hun, so I'll talk to you later.
Angyl: Well, tell you what - you better get that - uh - fansign to me ASAP, ooooor I'll talk to your mommy next. Ok Hunny?
Moot: Ok. Ok. Bye - Bye.
Angyl: Ok you have a really, really good night? Mwah....... Fucking idiot ...
Three years after this event, Xyrix (now as Ruxpin) decided to hack Cryptome with another group named Kryogeniks (composed of him, Michael "Virus" Nieves and Justin "Null" Pierres).
Later, Cryptome exposed the identities of the hackers and screencaps of Xyrix himself sperging from the failed attempt to attack trainreq and recalling the events of the time he hacked 4chan.
Eight years later, Xyrix now reappears as Zoom (and later Internet GodSpeed), thanks to Joachim (current host of Heelturn). Here he mentions everything that he did to the trainwreck that is the, now dead, trend of "Internet Bloodsports":
TL;DR after Joachim destroyed BYBS and ditched Zoom days after requesting Zoom to dox minor viewers of IBS, Zoom joined said targets to take down IBS himself, a month after IBS starts to self-destruct, he attempts to take down Sargon with poor results.
If you're curious, here is a video of his amazing performance against @theralph:
And later, the final six hour spergout that led to IBS shattering half a week later.
On this stream alone, he shows that besides being such a fucking sperg, he is a tryhard doxer that goes all the way to contact organizations just to prove a goddamn point. Here is a 40 minute autistic video in which he tries to expose Tonkasaw with his best skills:
There are also claims that Zoom enjoys CP based off some videos shown on Ralph's killstream as well as this one shown on the IBS apocalypse stream, where he later claims to just be pretending:
Even if he was shown to be a deviant sperg on the IBS apocalypse stream, half a week later, the hosts of IBS ended up turning on each other leading to the death of IBS. Zoom claims that this was the final nail in the coffin of this whole debacle:
Besides the pizza orders, there is also the time he proudly swatted Seth Wallace (a person who many people doubt is actually Joachim).
Anyways, after all these autistic events took place, Zoom starts his own brand of IBS, which completely flops, and ends leaving a great message to Sargon and the skeptics:
As of now, little is known about this mysterious hero, Internet Godspeed's next plan. One of his last claims is that he contacted many different media outlets in an attempt to create defamatory articles against Sargon. This had little to no effect:
Since then, he got bullied off /cow/ because of his stupid attention whoring and namefagging. It is even speculated that most of his partners during the IBS apocalypse got tired of him and left him.
Can't we all just agree that calling the police claiming to be someone and saying you're drunk, suicidal, have child porn and answering yes to "Do you have a weapon?" is designed to drop them in the shit?
Particularly if the police know that person spent time in jail for assaulting a police officer when drunk.
Whether this technically counts as 'swatting' is kind of irrelevant.
Nope. Unless you act retarded nothing will happen. The cop won't even have their gun drawn unless they see you brandishing a weapon. A swat will have their guns drawn and pointed at you.
Nope. Unless you act exceptional nothing will happen. The cop won't even have their gun drawn unless they see you brandishing a weapon. A swat will have their guns drawn and pointed at you.
When the cops say to Zoom, impersonating Ralph, if he's 'armed' he says 'I've got my two fists and a sushi knife'. Given he's served time for hitting a cop with his fist, is currently on probation and 'a sushi knife' could be construed as 'a samurai short sword' how was Zoom not setting him up to get shot?
Saying 'well it's not technically a swatting, just a wellness check' is disingenuous. Lying your ass off to the police that someone is armed, drunk and suicidal is clearly designed to produce an over reaction on the part of the police. The fact it didn't in this case is pretty irrelevant.
Zoom should be locked up for this shit. I mean even if you think Ralph is an idiot, it's still an awful thing to do. And it's not like if Zoom gets away with it he won't do it to someone else. In fact he's the sort of asshole that will escalate to full on swatting if he gets away with this. Does anyone doubt he'd swat Josh if he could work out how to do his social engineering with the Ukrainian police?
Laughing at eccentric people on the Internet is a harmless vice. Sending the police to IRL troll them in the hope they get mishandle the situation and get shot or arrested is unsporting. And probably illegal.
It's a shame really - Zoom can be pretty entertaining when he's digging up dirt on people. I just think when he does shit like this people need to say "No Zoom. Bad Zoom".
When the cops say to Zoom, impersonating Ralph, if he's 'armed' he says 'I've got my two fists and a sushi knife'. Given he's served time for hitting a cop with his fist, is currently on probation and 'a sushi knife' could be construed as 'a samurai short sword' how was Zoom not setting him up to get shot?
Saying 'well it's not technically a swatting, just a wellness check' is disingenuous. Lying your ass off to the police that someone is armed, drunk and suicidal is clearly designed to produce an over reaction on the part of the police. The fact it didn't in this case is pretty irrelevant.
Zoom should be locked up for this shit. I mean even if you think Ralph is an idiot, it's still an awful thing to do. And it's not like if Zoom gets away with it he won't do it to someone else. In fact he's the sort of asshole that will escalate to full on swatting if he gets away with this. Does anyone doubt he'd swat Josh if he could work out how to do his social engineering with the Ukrainian police?
Laughing at eccentric people on the Internet is a harmless vice. Sending the police to IRL troll them in the hope they get mishandle the situation and get shot or arrested is unsporting. And probably illegal.
It's a shame really - Zoom can be pretty entertaining when he's digging up dirt on people. I just think when he does shit like this people need to say "No Zoom. Bad Zoom".
I agree with all of this besides Zoom can be entertaining, but to each their own. Instead of debating if this was or wasn't a swatting lets just agree sending police to someones house because of your internet dick measuring contest makes you a faggot. Livestreaming yourself making the call makes you seem desperate for attention too.
I agree with all of this besides Zoom can be entertaining, but to each their own. Instead of debating if this was or wasn't a swatting lets just agree sending police to someones house because of your internet dick measuring contest makes you a faggot. Livestreaming yourself making the call makes you seem desperate for attention too.
I think Ralph's drunken drama streams are entertaining as well. I enjoy content from what can best be called the Telenovelasphere part of the Internet of which Kiwi Farms is basically the Forum of Record.
I know these people have got to have cat fights but I just wish that, like tomcats duking it out in alleyways they'd avoid actually trying to kill each other whether by wellness checks or deplatforming. Just hiss at each other from a distance and inflict the odd torn ear, dudes. If it's good enough for the tomcats it's good enough for you.
These cats' walnut sized brains have a better understanding of the dangers of combat escalation than Zoom and Ralph. If you put then in charge of US foreign policy in the Cold War they'd be less likely to cause a nuclear war than Zoom or Ralph. If they were human they'd be less likely to end up in jail.
When the cops say to Zoom, impersonating Ralph, if he's 'armed' he says 'I've got my two fists and a sushi knife'. Given he's served time for hitting a cop with his fist, is currently on probation and 'a sushi knife' could be construed as 'a samurai short sword' how was Zoom not setting him up to get shot?
Saying 'well it's not technically a swatting, just a wellness check' is disingenuous. Lying your ass off to the police that someone is armed, drunk and suicidal is clearly designed to produce an over reaction on the part of the police. The fact it didn't in this case is pretty irrelevant.
Zoom should be locked up for this shit. I mean even if you think Ralph is an idiot, it's still an awful thing to do. And it's not like if Zoom gets away with it he won't do it to someone else. In fact he's the sort of asshole that will escalate to full on swatting if he gets away with this. Does anyone doubt he'd swat Josh if he could work out how to do his social engineering with the Ukrainian police?
Laughing at eccentric people on the Internet is a harmless vice. Sending the police to IRL troll them in the hope they get mishandle the situation and get shot or arrested is unsporting. And probably illegal.
It's a shame really - Zoom can be pretty entertaining when he's digging up dirt on people. I just think when he does shit like this people need to say "No Zoom. Bad Zoom".
I checked later during the stream and my recs went back to normal. Attached is the ranch's archive of the event. My guess is he had child related tags. Now the reason why he would, well I'll leave that up to speculation.
As much as I don't like Zoom, I sometimes get kid-related videos for no apparent reason on unrelated videos too. It just happened with this video by Richard "Zack" Meyer of ComicsGate fame. Screenshot attached. I was using YouTube while logged out, as I usually do, and I never get these kinds of videos recommended to me on the YouTube front page (believe it or not, but it's the truth).
I really have no idea what's happening here, but it certainly seems to be a YouTube screw-up rather than legitimate suggested videos based on either past viewing history or legitimate correlation between this video and others. My best guess, at least in this case, is that YouTube is ignoring its smarter methods of video association and just building a list of videos based on "Spider-Man" being in the title of this one, but who really knows.