Manosphere Marijan Šiklić (ThatIncelBlogger)

Who is Smarter, TJ Church or Marjan Šiklić?

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namazuros said:
1A. I would disagree with you on the point where women don;'t understand relationships. I've had several relationships, some good, some not so good. I don't presume to be any expert, but I like to think I've grown as a person throughout each shared experience. I've never hooked up with anyone just for sex, but I have boinked and leveled up social ranks with a couple people. Would that make me a slut, since I have no qualms about healthy, responsibly handed sexual activity between two consenting adults?

1B. This friend of yours seems to prove that 'sluts' can better themselves as people and grow, by your own definition. Therefore, do you feel that it is hypocritical to condemn all western women as sluts, since we could all take after your friend (although to be honest, I still don't understand what she has done to revoke the slut moniker from you, besides coming out as a lesbian)?

1C. That's very interesting to know. Do you feel any desire to sleep with her, or do you respect her boundaries and personality too much to put her needs beneath your own? If so, do you feel that this is a fair case with all women, in that they all have their own needs and wants that shouldn't be trampled upon for sexual gratification?

2. That strikes me as extremely sad. I gave you some points earlier in the thread that were completely separate from medication or therapy. Would you consider any of those? Surely there's something you want to do that you haven't accomplished yet (apart from finishing your book and any activities related your philosophy on women, I should say).

If any of this is unclear, please let me know. I'd be happy to try and elaborate further in order to try and get you to a healthier place.

EDIT: I should add, do you believe me when I state I understand what relationships are, even though I have a somewhat limited worldview given I am a young woman? Do you believe me, or will you discount my experience based off your generalizations?
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1A. I don't know enough about you to make judgements on this. Women often present themselves better than they are. But I can't tell.
1B. My friend acted like a slut due to her struggle with coming out as what is basically a lesbian. So I can't really blame her for that. She wasn't any average slut who is straight and simply wants to fuck as many dirtbags as possible. So I can't judge her the same way.
1C We will disagree here. I do have a desire to sleep with her (especially since i already have), sure, but won't do it since I know she's into women. But this doesn't stand for average straight modern women. in their eyes if you respect them and their boundaries you are a boring loser. the kind of behavior you describe here is exactly what modern women want - to be trampled on and treated like sex objects.
2. Could you repeat the post maybe? Cause honestly what I did see seemed like a lot of general phrases that didn't amount to much in reality... no offense.
 
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Holden said:
1A. I don't know enough about you to make judgements on this. Women often present themselves better than they are. But I can't tell.
1B. My friend acted like a slut due to her struggle with coming out as what is basically a lesbian. So I can't really blame her for that. She wasn't any average slut who is straight and simply wants to fuck as many dirtbags as possible. So I can't judge her the same way.
1C We will disagree here. I do have a desire to sleep with her (especially since i already have), sure, but won't do it since I know she's into women. But this doesn't stand for average straight modern women. in their eyes if you respect them and their boundaries you are a boring loser. the kind of behavior you describe here is exactly what modern women want - to be trampled on and treated like sex objects.
2. Could you repeat the post maybe? Cause honestly what I did see seemed like a lot of general phrases that didn't amount to much in reality... no offense.
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I kinda doubt 1B honestly. I mean, if I knew you, and I had a vagina, I would tell you I was gay too.
 
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Holden said:
purple - you are not distorting anything in that post, since you're c/p my words. when you write your own nonsense about what i said is when you distort.

You are extremely dangerous, even for some members here, because you teach a dogma that rape is something women hate. this makes young men here miss chances with women and wonder why they can't be successful. it is all really, really dangerous.
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So it's dangerous to say women don't like rape?
I am maybe not reading this right??? I'm always telling people feminists made you up. But here you are.
 
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cluelessly said:
I'm getting bored of Fuckbot actually. He just regurgitates the same handful of points over and over to anyone who will listen, repeating those points everytime they give a contrary opinion to his. It really is like talking to a spambot.

Looking forward to the radio show by @flossman though!
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Trust me, the more @Holden posts, the more material @Bucharest and I will have to work into a script, and that means even more awesomeness for the people who want to record with us.
 
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So it's dangerous to say women don't like rape?
I am maybe not reading this right??? I'm always telling people feminists made you up. But here you are.
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it is dangerous. it is selling gullible, indoctrinated young men a fantasy that they will get women if they just treat them humanely or if they learn how to seduce better. the first claim is obvious nonsense and the other one even worse, since it makes apply extreme effort for skills that you pretty much either have or don't. it's as if a 5ft2 woman wanted to be 6ft tall. won't work. on the other hand, dumb football players and thugs rape and are successful in terms of breeding.
 
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Holden said:
it is dangerous. it is selling gullible, indoctrinated young men a fantasy that they will get women if they just treat them humanely or if they learn how to seduce better. the first claim is obvious nonsense and the other one even worse, since it makes apply extreme effort for skills that you pretty much either have or don't. it's as if a 5ft2 woman wanted to be 6ft tall. won't work. on the other hand, dumb football players and thugs rape and are successful in terms of breeding.
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*yawn*
 
Holden said:
it is dangerous. it is selling gullible, indoctrinated young men a fantasy that they will get women if they just treat them humanely or if they learn how to seduce better. the first claim is obvious nonsense and the other one even worse, since it makes apply extreme effort for skills that you pretty much either have or don't. it's as if a 5ft2 woman wanted to be 6ft tall. won't work. on the other hand, dumb football players and thugs rape and are successful in terms of breeding.
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Except literally every other man in this thread (besides the ones that are into men) has been successful with women. You're gay and unrealistic on this site.
 
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Holden said:
1A. I don't know enough about you to make judgements on this. Women often present themselves better than they are. But I can't tell.
1B. My friend acted like a slut due to her struggle with coming out as what is basically a lesbian. So I can't really blame her for that. She wasn't any average slut who is straight and simply wants to fuck as many dirtbags as possible. So I can't judge her the same way.
1C We will disagree here. I do have a desire to sleep with her (especially since i already have), sure, but won't do it since I know she's into women. But this doesn't stand for average straight modern women. in their eyes if you respect them and their boundaries you are a boring loser. the kind of behavior you describe here is exactly what modern women want - to be trampled on and treated like sex objects.
2. Could you repeat the post maybe? Cause honestly what I did see seemed like a lot of general phrases that didn't amount to much in reality... no offense.
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1A. I'll propose this, then. Do you think it is at all possible for you to have taken your personal experiences in Croatia and projected them onto a worldwide scale? I mean no untoward insult by this, but you seem to have a number of unhappy, unhealthy relationships with women. Do you feel it is fair to hold it against other women who have no contact with you?

1B. I am straight, but I don't really want to fuck as many dirtbags as possible. Indeed, thats not even a thought that crosses my mind. I just want to be healthy and happy, and I know several people like this, relatives included. Would that make us sluts, just because we are not lesbians like your friend and derive sexual pleasure from laying with men?

1C. I do not think you are boring, as I have said before. Nor do I think any woman reading this thread would use that term primarily to describe you. What I feel you are is wounded. That you haven't coerced her into sexual favors or anything tells me that you actually value her as a human being. Therefore, could you not also see yourself valuing other women as well, even if they are straight?

I feel I need to clarify here at your last point - I'm weird as fuck. I've got crazy fetishes and all sorts of kinks. However, I recognize those as fantasy and I would only feel comfortable practicing sexual acts with a consenting partner I care about and trust. I know many women who feel the same. I don't know any woman who WANTS to be raped, even those who have rape fantasies. Do you believe me when I say this, or have I been deluded by society?

2. Well, I could reiterate advice to meet and connect with people, or advice to improve you overall health and wellness. Honestly in either case, I'd strongly recommend some form of exercise; I've become quite fond of jogging. And no offense taken; this is the cwcki,after all :)


I do have another question, however. Are you in support of sexual education classes, or do you feel those help corrupt children off the moral path and turn them into sluts and rape apes?

EDIT: And therein lies my point, as proved by 1A. You say you don't know me well enough to say, and I'm just a boring asshole. Couldn't it be said that you don't know well enough to judge these other women you've condemned as sluts?
 
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