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Troons have officially, succcessfully shoved their dicks into another lesbian space. The instigating post was previously noted in this thread, here’s the jump:


The drama subreddit discovered a pretty juicy battlefield in the ongoing war between troons and lesbians. They then preceded to turn it to shit, as is their wont, but it's still a fun read.

Official mod stance: yes, men can be lesbians:

https://www.reddit.com/r/butchlesbians/comments/b8lje0/the_brigading_incident_and_stance_on_trans/

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Dr Burin said that it is normal and nothing to worry about. He said it's a mixture of old blood mixed with mucus, lubricant, and probably betadine solution (which I had been using to gently douche the inside of me recently as a precaution due to my UTI).

A festering mass of gross shit inside an open wound is nothing to worry about?? This "surgeon" is a quack.

I think my vaginal canal must be pretty deep to be holding all these 'surprises' inside, haha!

Stink ditches are indeed full of 'surprises'. Horrible, disgusting 'surprises'.

Since I am only dilating to 4-5 inches for now, I'm guessing that each time I dilate, I push all this gunk deeper inside my vagina. And it just kind of accumulates and bunches up deep inside?

Friendly reminder that actual vaginas are self cleaning.

These men brag about their totally real vags and then complain about inside pubic hair, mucus in various colors, gunk, losing depth, necrosis, numbness and so on.
 
r/butchlesbians is not a lesbian subreddit though. It's apparently simply a sub for butch "women" of all kinds. Most on there are straight and if you ask the mods why it's called "butch lesbians" if they never meant it to be for butch lesbians, they will say, laughably, that no other, more suitable name was available. Basically, it had already been taken over a long time ago.
 
That only makes sense if “lesbian” has no meaning, dumb mods. Either way the troons could also post to the similarly useless /r/butchwomen.

From the side bar:

This is an inclusive subreddit for butch andMasculine-of-Center women and the women who love them. Anyone is welcome to post here, but posts should be on topic and bigotry (yes, this includes transphobia) will not be tolerated.

They are inescapable.
 
r/butchlesbians is not a lesbian subreddit though. It's apparently simply a sub for butch "women" of all kinds. Most on there are straight and if you ask the mods why it's called "butch lesbians" if they never meant it to be for butch lesbians, they will say, laughably, that no other, more suitable name was available. Basically, it had already been taken over a long time ago.
Yeah, a cursory scroll through reveals an overabundance of bi women (debatable that they should leave, but making a subreddit is really fucking easy so there's no reason to stay either), "nb women", and a couple ftms. It was inevitable.
Side note but what's the point of being a "butch lesbian mtf". Might as well just say straight man. It sounds like a joke a creepy frat boy hitting on a lesbian would make.

Either way, seeing this makes me want to set up some shit like r/actualbutchlesbians or something, but god knows maybe 5 people tops would appreciate my efforts.
 
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"Some people are annoying about it so it should be illegal." Top logic.

Hmm, come to think of it, I feel the same way about gender reassignment surgery.
Y'know I actually think federal legalization would make those annoying stoners shut the fuck up. Some people never grow out of the middle school mentality that if they're doing something "illegal" or "immoral" they have to tell everyone how cool they are. If it were legalized, they'd have nothing to brag about anymore because now anyone 21+ could smoke.

No wait. Forget me. It would go the way of alcohol and party culture "Whhhaaattt? You don't smoke? Why not? It's like toootally the best thing ever and you don't know what you're missing! Come on, loosen up! Sure one little joint won't hurt ya!"
There truly is no winning.
 
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Missing it 5 times in 6 months is still missing the schedule. What happened to them sucks and I hope they can recover, but at the same time they probably should've not missed any days, maybe they wouldn't have run into that problem.
 
Missing it 5 times in 6 months is still missing the schedule. What happened to them sucks and I hope they can recover, but at the same time they probably should've not missed any days, maybe they wouldn't have run into that problem.
You're not going far enough. The real problem is that he went for the surgery in the first place.
 
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...Sex toy companies catering to kinks do make prosthetic vaginas for men.
It's expensive but there's no chance that you'd start needing adult diapers at 21 so I'd say it's a plus.
 
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Jesus fuck that is... yeah. And still the primary concern is "gaining more depth" ... fucking seriously? What did he honestly expect the ER doctor to do anyway? A vaginal fistula is certainly gross and distressing but it's not an emergency, though it's pretty telling if the area looked so bad they were concerned enough to keep them overnight and consult the fuckin' trauma surgeon. They can't even help refer you to a colorectal surgeon/gynecologist (not actually sure who handles that) because they don't have the foggiest idea how to properly deal with a neovagina either. It's the same deal a lot of times with botched plastic surgery: Go back to the surgeon you paid to make that mess, beyond making sure you don't die we're sure as shit not gonna fuck about with it.

And I don't know much about neovaginas but I know enough that a doctor saying "it's impossible to have a fistula so soon after surgery" while referring to a freshly stitched wound being deliberately stretched and agitated at regular intervals sure as shit doesn't sound right, I might even go as far as to say they're a fucking dumbass.

Semi-related but how in the green fields of fuck are there people claiming to be trans without gender dysphoria now? Nigga what? That is literally the definition of being transgender, is it not? That's as bad as the idiotic fat fucks who claim they have anorexia.
 
And I don't know much about neovaginas but I know enough that a doctor saying "it's impossible to have a fistula so soon after surgery" while referring to a freshly stitched wound being deliberately stretched and agitated at regular intervals sure as shit doesn't sound right, I might even go as far as to say they're a fucking dumbass.

I hardly find it shocking that someone who makes their living bilking insurance companies doing low rent genital butcheries wouldn't have the highest level of professionalism.
 
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Testosterone at 13, everybody!
Ok, look, I'm concerned. This girl is 13, diagnosed autistic, and being prescribed testosterone despite even the NHS's standards. She's "gone private" with the full support of her family. Her description of dysphoria
I would like nothing more than for my gender dysphoria to be some phase that I'll get over tomorrow morning. I'd go find a bra in the bottom of my wardrobe and be completely fine regarding my own body, and I'd be happy again. But, everything I've experienced so far in this life says that that will not happen, despite my own wishes.
What you are referring to with being a masculine girl is entirely social. My gender is what label is put on me and how people treat me, and it just so happens that I prefer one label to another. But the kicker is not all of the shit feelings are social, and you speak as if suddenly realising I can be a masculine girl will eliminate all the non-social dysphoria.
sounds very much like descriptions I've heard of encountering puberty as an awkward, intelligent, slightly immature girl. I've heard women talk about being teens/tweens and having a seriously rough time with the idea of entering adulthood as a woman, and there are women here with reddit accounts like the gendercritical posters and I just think it would be nice if someone could reach out to her from a place of commonality. Her parents, as mentioned, are already completely on board with a 13 year old's expression of gender being allowed to result in life-altering medical intervention and an older woman who can relate would probably be really valuable to her.

sorry for the spergout
 
Ok, look, I'm concerned. This girl is 13, diagnosed autistic, and being prescribed testosterone despite even the NHS's standards. She's "gone private" with the full support of her family. Her description of dysphoria

sounds very much like descriptions I've heard of encountering puberty as an awkward, intelligent, slightly immature girl. I've heard women talk about being teens/tweens and having a seriously rough time with the idea of entering adulthood as a woman, and there are women here with reddit accounts like the gendercritical posters and I just think it would be nice if someone could reach out to her from a place of commonality. Her parents, as mentioned, are already completely on board with a 13 year old's expression of gender being allowed to result in life-altering medical intervention and an older woman who can relate would probably be really valuable to her.

sorry for the spergout
So is it true that the UK actually forces parents to support their kids trooning out?

And also, that probably sounds like an tomboy than a full troon.
 
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Even if their work wouldn't lead to having a spare $20k, don't most private surgeons have credit plans?
 
Even if their work wouldn't lead to having a spare $20k, don't most private surgeons have credit plans?
Maybe, but not trans surgeons, especially for overseas clients as is the case for the Thai doctors. Why would they even open that scam avenue up?

For US/Canadian surgeons, I believe it's common to have a certain percentage guaranteed at time of booking with the rest to be paid upfront before the actual surgery date
 
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So is it true that the UK actually forces parents to support their kids trooning out?

And also, that probably sounds like an tomboy than a full troon.


Social Services, the UK equivalent of CPS can and will take children away from their families if they feel the parents are not "supportive" of their kid trooning out.

What worries me about the aforementioned girl is that she's autistic so probably not compos mentis enough to make a sound decisions. Too many troons are spergs because they have a blinkered, absolutist, black and white world view which the troon movement preys upon. Not a perfect, uber girly girl? You must be a boy then!

Also, feeling like things don't fit if you're an awkward, gawky teen girl is normal. I hated going through puberty, felt awkward and gross a whole load of the time. It happens and it is normal. I am so glad my family and social circle hadn't drunk the troon kool aid and weren't poking me in that direction.
 
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"Moral of the story: Don't be stupid like me. Don't accept anything less than one of your top 3 doctors".

Gosh. That was his recommendation, to still obliterate your genitals. After all the trouble you would think he would come to his senses, but no.

Also, how sociopath one must be to think that having a good family and friends is a bad thing?

"Unfortunately I have a family and a girlfriend that love me very much"

Check this out, guys!!! The saddest motherfucker in the world. His family is so good that they're preventing his suicide, the nerve of these bigots!!!!!!111
 
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