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Not sure if she saw the thread, but the McGonagills have been getting a lot of negative comments, mostly on #710:

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I'm so conflicted. They seem really harmless and sweet. Just a mother and daughter hippy commune thing going on. There are always people who pay for this kind of woo treatment, so it's not like the pair are massive scammers or anything. Just sitting around and waving your arms while talking like a psychotherapist on speed isn't hurting anyone, at least. Some of the things they say make sense - overpopulation, for example. But holy shit, if 99% of what they (well, the mum mostly) ramble is absolute rubbish. It's just word salad and hand-flapping. And so many videos. You can't blame people innocently tripping over their channel on Youtube for wondering what the fuck this pair have been smoking.

I'd love to know where their beliefs come from. Did all this just sprout from the mother's imagination, or was there some sort of outside influence? Was she always a crazy woo peddler, or did something happen to snap her out of reality? There was mention of a brother dying, did she go nutso after this, or what?
 
There are always people who pay for this kind of woo treatment, so it's not like the pair are massive scammers or anything.
I agree with you about them being harmless and even slightly wholesome but if they're offering "treatment" to anyone and getting paid for it, that's the literal definition of a scam dude, no more no less. I'm fine with them taking donations on Patreon or whatever crowdsourcing, directly, etc but any service they offer is a scam, even that horse therapy crap, most likely.
There was mention of a brother dying, did she go nutso after this, or what?
Since the first day in this thread I have been dubious of the drug-induced-trip claims. I find it equally possible for this to be anything from a peculiar form or narcissism to schizophrenia to psychosis or even just extreme insecurities acting up.

If I had to build a narrative, I would say the mom is pretty low IQ and was never able to sustain herself in the real world despite having a daughter. When the brother passes she has a full-on breakdown and becomes this "semi-jesus herald of the dead spirits" to convince it's not her who's maladjusted but everyone else who aren't on the "dead spirit" movement with her. However, the communication with spirits does indicate some schizophrenia but we never "see it happen", could be just talk.

About "where it came from", my best guess is that mom's the right age to have lived through some of the 60s hippie movement. Maybe she was part of it and did some drugs or rituals herself, maybe she knew someone who did (hippie uncle or something) or maybe she's just acting upon what she thought hippie culture must've been like despite never being there.
 
There are always people who pay for this kind of woo treatment, so it's not like the pair are massive scammers or anything. Just sitting around and waving your arms while talking like a psychotherapist on speed isn't hurting anyone, at least.
Stop putting two spaces after periods. You're not typing on a monospace typewriter.

Anyway, the "what's the harm?" argument falls apart when people start using these sorts of "treatments" as a replacement of actual, effectual care. After his cancer diagnosis, Steve Jobs sent nine months farting around with juice cleanses and acupuncture before finally having surgery, and that delay likely cost him his life.
About "where it came from", my best guess is that mom's the right age to have lived through some of the 60s hippie movement.

If she was 20 in 1965, that would mean she was born in 1945 and is now 74 years old. She doesn't look that old; maybe closer to 55. There were plenty of hippies still around in the '80s.
 
Lynn is currently 60 years old.


Another new video. Lynn compares factory farms to concentration camps, continues complaining about overpopulation.

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I posted earlier and yes do I still find em just downright bizarre? Yes surely, but like as weird as they may be, they aren’t hurting anybody really and it’s not like they seem to be dangerous in any way either, just plain weird. But a thread discussing them sounds interesting that’s true.

This video interview was really interesting, as others have said, they seem like just a harmless old lady and her daughter having some fun, and I hope they dont get scared of the internet or something, because I genuinly find their stuff interesting just for how bizarre and background noiseworthy it is. If I ever had the chance to talk to them somehow, I would in a heartbeat. God worst case scenario would be if something like Jim found it and they go all dannyx3 at them....

 
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I have several questions, before I decide this is exactly my kind of bullshit rabbit hole.

1. what incurable disease did Mom recover from by doing this angel shit? what incurable illnesses is she claiming to cure?

2. how does she reconcile that with her "don't keep old people alive" belief? she's fucking old. she's fucking sick? why fix that?

3. they're right in that there's more dead people on this earth than live ones. so if there were ghosts, it would be really crowded. don't abortions (however great they are) just add another ghost? or is it only after someone is born? do they believe in some kind of "age of ghost-ship" after which an abortion is just adding to the clutter?

4. so, they're not fucking horses, just making then really uncomfortable and nervous. are they fucking the lawn?
 
Can we talk about the last clip of Jamie 35 minutes in? It appears that her mother has forced her into isolation like a cult initiative.
 
Can we talk about the last clip of Jamie 35 minutes in? It appears that her mother has forced her into isolation like a cult initiative.
I don't know about force....she seems to believe this shit. Jamie basically threaten Wubby with poltergeist and to be dealt with Archangel Gabriel within those e-mails.
 
Not going to lie... Jamie is pretty cute with a nice figure and if she wanted to realign my chakras or whatever, I'd let her. She might be batshit crazy but at least it's the harmless kind of crazy that will probably never grow into something like Aum Shinrikyo.
Like most alternative medicine scenes, they're more about giving false hope while not actually helping rather than actively making things worse.
 

New video.

Not sure if she saw the thread, but the McGonagills have been getting a lot of negative comments, mostly on #710:

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"Hey, I know that lady. She's smart, she's capable. You've been misinformed."
In my experience, every person who praises themselves like that is insane. Especially when they tell their friends to praise them like that lmao
 
The last few minutes of Wubby's video make it pretty obvious that Jamie was leading a normal life until her mother somehow manipulated her into giving it all up and joining her in her psychotic delusions. Sure she is fully in on the delusion at this point, because she has invested so much in it (i.e. her job), but somewhere deep down she misses her actual friends.

The mother clearly has major psychological/emotional issues stemming from the trauma of several loved ones dying.
 
So Jamie's father, George Williams Mcgonagill, lives ~2.5 hours away (7000 Scrub Jay Dr, Sarasota, FL 34241) and her brother, Allen Patrick Mcgonagill (29), lives in Cambridge, MA.

Really curious as to what their involvement is in all of this.


Based on this video, I would say all of her mother's pill-pull has actually given Jamie a decent speech skill, which she uses to con rich housewives out of their horse money. She specifically mentions multiple times that she prefers to work with show/racing horses (she claims a horse she "healed" for one of her friends sold for $370,000). Even when asked about dogs, she says she prefers to work with show dogs. I'm not saying she isn't crazy (one of her "success" stories is literally her just telling the horse owner to call a vet, who then fixes the horses leg...), but I can't really think of another reason to prefer working with show animals vs companion animals other than the price tag.

I knew a girl in college who was in these elite horse circles, and she went to Florida all the time for shows/competitions. From what I saw, there was no shortage of bat shit crazy wives and daughters. All of the husbands are corporate attorneys/professional board members with stupid levels of money and influence, so dropping a couple thousand dollars to get their wife/daughter to stop complaining about the horse isn't something they would even think twice about.
 
So I know this thread hasn't been updated in a few months, but the Drunken Peasants have been covering these two lately and I just discovered them. They have quickly become among my favorites as far as insane internet people go. I'm sure some of that has to do with the enjoyment i derive staring at Jamie's fat tits. I really am curious why they insist on pretending to jerk off a bunch of Angels above them the whole time they are filming, but whatever. I feel really bad for Jamie. Watching the Wubby video was pretty eye openeing, especially the last shot. She obviously had a life and friends, and her crazy Mom talked her into giving all of that shit up. She should be living her life and getting banged out while she is still young.

They are still uploading 2-3 videos per week as usual, now up to episode 1075. I honestly cant imagine how out of your mind you would have to be to attempt to watch all of their content.
 
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