Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[damian]

After looking at the comic shop in question it appears that the Kameha Con rejects will be competing for space with 2 pokemon tcg events and will then be kicked out to make space for the Yugioh tournament at 6

I feel bad for the TCG players in all honestly. Just wanting to go to your favorite shop to chill and play some card games and then seeing some booths getting set up inside your area and some people that find everything problematic will be coming into your space for some bullshit you really do not care about.

I was bored:

Spoiler: greentext of what Monica's signing event might look like

>be me
been looking forward to this weekend's YuGiOh tournament
be Saturday
arrive at comic shop
some weird skinny guy starts eye-ing me the moment I enter the shop
he starts asking me if I'm here for an autograph
say no
he starts looking at me like he wants to stab me
he starts screaming "why are you here then!?"
tell him I'm here for one of the TCG events
he says "oh, well would you like an autograph from my fiancee?"
he points to a large headed manatee sitting on a chair next to human sized soy beans
tell him I'm fine, just want to go play
begs me to go get an autograph
says he's been here all day and barely anyone has shown up for the signing
start to pity this weird guy, tell him ok
go to the table and ask for an autograph
now that am closer I notice this isn't a large headed manatee
it actually a giant headed woman
she asks me for $20 for a signature
look over to the weird guy
he looks like he's about to cry
begrudgingly hand her a Jackson
she hands me a signed picture of Bulma from DBZ
look at the picture confused as to why there a #4 right before Bulma's name
walk away from the table
weird guy thanks me with tears in his eyes
go to the tables where my friends are already set up at
ask them "What the hell was that?"
they too were begged by weird guy to get a signature
they too don't know who she is
suddenly, hear screaming coming from the signing table
weird guy looks like he's about to have a seizure
see some bearded dude in an fancy suit
the manatee starts screaming into her phone, says she's calling the police
weird guy passes out and pisses himself
human sized soy beans combine to form White Knight Voltron and shield the manatee from the bearded dude
bearded man approaches the table
slaps down an envelope on the table and says
"Told you. We would be in touch"
have no clue what's going on
just wanted to play YuGiOh

 

[SinglePlayerCarl]

If you want a reading of some of the complaints and responses, Leonard tackled this one too.

Edit: Wow, I hadn't realized how much this case has in common with Vic's - Defamation, conspiracy...

Yep. This case made me more hip to this bullshit happening everywhere.


Made me realize these people do things because they see someone else did it, and they think "Well i can get away with it too "

Seneca Valley is the kind of place where videos like this get recorded and made;

To call them "whiter than wonderbread" is an insult to how gentrified this is; They are the opposite of vantablack, they're vantahuwite -- every person couldn't be anymore diverse and idyllic.

So it was only a matter of time in this political climate.

So, MarzGurl disabled the ability to like or dislike her videos on YouTube. Unsurprisingly, she is also moderating her comment section.

Too bad Dissenter exists. Use it if you got it.

 

[TheClappening]

Oh shit. I think Kamehacon is about to announce Scott McNeil. Now I really wish I could go.

https://twitter.com/KamehaCon/status/1113983867252301824

No, it's Sean Schemmel. The hints are there!
(btw not mine, saw it in the comment chain)

 

[beardium]

Someone's getting a taste of their own medicine or in this case SOY. Hypocrite much ?

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Gay Ops confirmed.

See, the reason why I think this is a deliberate gay ops is because of what can be forcibly derived from this.

If Rackets took up this trojan, the marring of his credibility would greatly hurt #istandwithvic/#vickicksback because we understand #kickvic to be pathologically lying sadsacks and can't afford in any way to be like them-- even if it's by accident. Rackets is already (prancing) on thin ice because he's been sharing leaked information that nobody except the conspirators have that he has to verify (a presumably difficult task). The only reason why he's been able to impact the narrative as much as he has is because the bombshells that he's been dropping haven't been able to be deflected, or the people who can choose not to-- KC doesn't say one way or the other that people tried to interfere with contracts after he sends fans with that narrative to support them to bring Vic back on. Only now (two weeks after the fact) does Rial address the charge that she got Todd kicked off a panel... by literally affirming that she did, and also letting slip that she somehow knows what his contract entails.

If he screws up on the level of this, it'd be hard to restore general trust on the information that he provides and chooses to propagate, if only because of effect. And #kickvic will get all the mileage they can out of that fact as they use it to fend off any juicy stories he may choose to drop in the future.

Everyone else is more or less a bit different because while Rekieta is just about the main reason that #istandwithvic never went stagnant (he provided new information and initiated #istandwithvic's second form), they moreso propagate all that information along with whatever Twitter antics these culprits are getting themselves into when they really should be building a time machine to go back in time so they can retain a lawyer at a time where they weren't so dug in, and if they took this trojan (and some of them did, Super Girl), the effect is that there's lost ground when it appears as if they're no better than the people that they oppose, willing to take anything up that seems believable to them like #kickvic did. The value in these info propagators is their coverage due to their numbers, and that should be cherished and not squandered.

The risks inherent in handling this in an improper fashion was what led me to believe that we were dealing with a gay ops. Thankfully, it wasn't something that got too many bites, and even more, there was a concerted effort on #istandwithvic/#vickicksback to investigate a report that obviously would have benefited them. So, I was right earlier when I said that this'll clarify who I should care about in all this.

The worst timeline, though, is if this was just an incompetent charade from someone who wanted to feel included.

EDIT:

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Like this. This is what we get when we don't verify.

 

[RodgerDodger]

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Someone's getting a taste of their own medicine or in this case SOY. Hypocrite much ?

Isn't it amazing how fast a lie can spread if fed to a receptive audience? A normal person might take note that the broad Vic supporting anime fans looked at the story, didn't simply "Listen and Believe" but instead demanded evidence and proof, and thus the truth was found. But Ron here is far from a normal person. and has long ago given up on doing anything other than "believe all womenz!"

 

[NotoriousD]

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This is how you deal with idiots and harassers.

Bubba Fest is sounding pretty fucking based so far.

I was bored:

Spoiler: greentext of what Monica's signing event might look like

>be me
been looking forward to this weekend's YuGiOh tournament
be Saturday
arrive at comic shop
some weird skinny guy starts eye-ing me the moment I enter the shop
he starts asking me if I'm here for an autograph
say no
he starts looking at me like he wants to stab me
he starts screaming "why are you here then!?"
tell him I'm here for one of the TCG events
he says "oh, well would you like an autograph from my fiancee?"
he points to a large headed manatee sitting on a chair next to human sized soy beans
tell him I'm fine, just want to go play
begs me to go get an autograph
says he's been here all day and barely anyone has shown up for the signing
start to pity this weird guy, tell him ok
go to the table and ask for an autograph
now that am closer I notice this isn't a large headed manatee
it actually a giant headed woman
she asks me for $20 for a signature
look over to the weird guy
he looks like he's about to cry
begrudgingly hand her a Jackson
she hands me a signed picture of Bulma from DBZ
look at the picture confused as to why there a #4 right before Bulma's name
walk away from the table
weird guy thanks me with tears in his eyes
go to the tables where my friends are already set up at
ask them "What the hell was that?"
they too were begged by weird guy to get a signature
they too don't know who she is
suddenly, hear screaming coming from the signing table
weird guy looks like he's about to have a seizure
see some bearded dude in an fancy suit
the manatee starts screaming into her phone, says she's calling the police
weird guy passes out and pisses himself
human sized soy beans combine to form White Knight Voltron and shield the manatee from the bearded dude
bearded man approaches the table
slaps down an envelope on the table and says
"Told you. We would be in touch"
have no clue what's going on
just wanted to play YuGiOh

That was actually pretty funny.

 

[OldAmishRenegade]

See, the reason why I think this is a deliberate gay ops is because of what can be forcibly derived from this.

If Rackets took up this trojan, the marring of his credibility would greatly hurt #istandwithvic/#vickicksback because we understand #kickvic to be pathologically lying sadsacks and can't afford in any way to be like them-- even if it's by accident. Rackets is already (prancing) on thin ice because he's been sharing leaked information that nobody except the conspirators have that he has to verify (a presumably difficult task). The only reason why he's been able to impact the narrative as much as he has is because the bombshells that he's been dropping haven't been able to be deflected, or the people who can choose not to-- KC doesn't say one way or the other that people tried to interfere with contracts after he sends fans with that narrative to support them to bring Vic back on. Only now (two weeks after the fact) does Rial address the charge that she got Todd kicked off a panel... by literally affirming that she did, and also letting slip that she somehow knows what his contract entails.

If he screws up on the level of this, it'd be hard to restore general trust on the information that he provides and chooses to propagate, if only because of effect. And #kickvic will get all the mileage they can out of that fact as they use it to fend off any juicy stories he may choose to drop in the future.

Everyone else is more or less a bit different because while Rekieta is just about the main reason that #istandwithvic never went stagnant (he provided new information and initiated #istandwithvic's second form), they moreso propagate all that information along with whatever Twitter antics these culprits are getting themselves into when they really should be building a time machine to go back in time so they can retain a lawyer at a time where they weren't so dug in, and if they took this trojan (and some of them did, Super Girl), the effect is that there's lost ground when it appears as if they're no better than the people that they oppose, willing to take anything up that seems believable to them like #kickvic did. The value in these info propagators is their coverage due to their numbers, and that should be cherished and not squandered.

The risks inherent in handling this in an improper fashion was what led me to believe that we were dealing with a gay ops. Thankfully, it wasn't something that got too many bites, and even more, there was a concerted effort on #istandwithvic/#vickicksback to investigate a report that obviously would have benefited them. So, I was right earlier when I said that this'll clarify who I should care about in all this.

The worst timeline, though, is if this was just an incompetent charade from someone who wanted to feel included.

EDIT:
Like this. This is what we get when we don't verify.

This is why the recent video of that girl saying kickvic took her photo has me uneasy. People keep sharing it and making youtube vids on it, but where's the picture of her with Vic or the proof kickvic was using it? It could be gay ops, could be an obsessed Vic fangirl hoping to gain his attention, could be just a liar.

 

[ComeoutandJULAY]

Nick live in one (or more):

 

[Tard]

This is why the recent video of that girl saying kickvic took her photo has me uneasy. People keep sharing it and making youtube vids on it, but where's the picture of her with Vic or the proof kickvic was using it? It could be gay ops, could be an obsessed Vic fangirl hoping to gain his attention, could be just a liar.

She REALLY looks like the photo of the girl in the RWBY ruby rose outfit Vic photo
Not saying it's 100% her but it definitely looks like her to me. It could just be that they look alike though

 

[Monkey Prick]

This is why the recent video of that girl saying kickvic took her photo has me uneasy. People keep sharing it and making youtube vids on it, but where's the picture of her with Vic or the proof kickvic was using it? It could be gay ops, could be an obsessed Vic fangirl hoping to gain his attention, could be just a liar.

No one important has picked it up and it being gay ops has 0 bearing on the shitstorm that is coming for some of these people in the very near future.

 

[beardium]

Any info on Mike Ensley ? He is the owner of Pensacon and i remember reading that rial ain't friends with Pensacon (i can't go ahead and find it since i am blocked by her). If we can find some info on it then she'd be caught lying again.

P.S - It could also be from Ron Toye, saw it today earlier.

 

[Crabbo]

Just saw this.
Monica is running from one Vic to THIS.

 

[Next Task]

Speaking of pathological liars, Renfamous claimed to have a ticket to Kamehacon that she either tried to have refunded or charged back on her card. Which of course happened, because she would never lie about such a thing. But with the new signing in the comics shop, we're guaranteed to see her in some photos there, right? Because this was what she wanted all along and there's no reason for her not to go support the other #kickvic people? Also because Kamehacon's site said no refunds and a chargeback on her card would technically be a minor fraud?

I mean, it couldn't have all been just meaningless virtue-signaling from a constant liar - that's not consistent with the #kickvic hashtag, or Renfamous in particular, at all...

 

[TheClappening]

No one important has picked it up and it being gay ops has 0 bearing on the shitstorm that is coming for some of these people in the very near future.

Yes and no. Nick touched on that some stream ago.

Yes, Vic might win it big in a lawsuit, but that's months from now. Whether Vic "wins" at this moment in time, and whether he keeps getting con invites, interactions with his fans, and voiceover gigs, is up to the brushfire wars on social media.

The narrative needs to be controlled, precise, and accurate. If it's not, there's a decent chance Vic won't get to keep doing the things he loves.

 

[Army Burger]

Nick is a bit pissed off at Kameha Con

 

[RodgerDodger]

No one important has picked it up and it being gay ops has 0 bearing on the shitstorm that is coming for some of these people in the very near future.

This! The one most important lesson to take from all of this is that "Gay Ops" have no actual real world bearing. Law occurs in the real world. Not the Twitter'verse.

 

[Monkey Prick]

Yes and no. Nick touched on that some stream ago.

Yes, Vic might win it big in a lawsuit, but that's months from now. Whether Vic "wins" at this moment in time, and whether he keeps getting con invites, interactions with his fans, and voiceover gigs, is up to the brushfire wars on social media.

The narrative needs to be controlled, precise, and accurate. If it's not, there's a decent chance Vic won't get to keep doing the things he loves.

Starting to sound like one of those "muh narrative, muh optics" GG spergs, right now the only thing that matters is people keep supporting Vic and the cons that invite him. Money talks 1000 times more than some fake and gay twitter post.

 

[Tard]

Nick confirms he always has two good sources
That means TWO people working at KamehaCon have spoken about the abuse (one seemingly working their social media with how Nick claimed he got ahold of them) and Nick said he cannot show the proof... YET, but apparently they are all dirty liars and Ron and Monica are being 100% truthful

 

[quickthrowaway]

Some rando on Kanzenshuu claims he has contact with Monica Rial's Facebook moderation team. Everything else he mentions is just misinformation, like his google doc and the one being passed around are not the same one. But what sticks out to me is the bs that Rial's minions give to people.

Last, but not least... We now have an explanation for why Vic's been allowed to go on for so long, doing what he's done. Nobody's sure exactly why, but it turns out he DOES have a lot of pull in the industry. So much pull, in fact, that people have actually had to kiss up to him to get jobs. Everything he's done over his decades long career? There were industry insiders (not voice actors, but other kinds of insiders) actively working to cover up everything he's been doing.

I don't personally believe Rial is behind the misinformation and it's just a consequence of the chatty harpies that circle around this story and movement.

Something to keep an eye on. I think the only truthful parts are Rial's facebook mod team feeding white knights lies. But as with all unverified things, take it all with a grain of salt.

http://archive.is/MkOaE