Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[AnOminous]

So, as I'm to understand things, the working theory is that Raised by Wolves is a BLUE ORCA sock puppet, and her plan is to concoct a narrative where there is a witness intimidation ring being led by Ty Beard, in which the Farms is ground zero. As part of her plan, everybody is supposed to file ethics complaints against Ty, all of which will be dismissed, and Nick when then read them on his show, and we will all laugh about them on the very same thread that has triggered KickVic in the first place.

Not just the tone and general content of it is suspicious, but the sock also showed up and started saying even more extreme versions of the insanely defamatory shit Lauren always says, right after her main account got banned for saying insanely defamatory shit and then that content stopped coming directly from Lauren's main account.

 

[BubbleButt]

Why do they keep making what's essentially the same tweet repeatedly. It's like a written stutter.

It's an NPC boolean logic loop.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

@damian Get the doxedex updated soon.

 

[Lone Outsider]

Null and Emspex are going to be on Nick's stream tomorrow

Pop the motherfucking champagne bitch!

 

[Captain Manning]

Nick: "I'm going to be telling them that they can't be doing that. I don't know if you know this Drexel, but if you want the internet to not do something, what you do is you just tell them not to do it, and then you have full control over them."

Drexel: "Yep."

His face... LOL.

 

[TheClappening]

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There's a meme hiding in there somewhere.

 

[Burnout]

There's a meme hiding in there somewhere.

That's Nick's face when Mr./Ms. Ron Toye asks to come over for a play date with the family.

 

[Jaimas]

Gamergate was a really weird time. It was balls to the walls crazy. you got former US president Carter releasing a medical journal on gamergate and misogyny, you got gaming websites releasing articles that gamers are dead. basically everyone involved got turned to somewhat of a cow.
Jim was right all along. the best method was never to give an inch to the SJWs.
shame that it got hijacked by exploiters like Mundanematt,Quartering,Sargon etc. etc. etc. Maybe that's why he came back with a vengeance, to tear down all of the shitheads that benefitted from gamergate.

That is factually incorrect.

No one "hijacked" GG. A bunch of people fucking tried, including Vordrak and Ethan Ralph, but GG's weaponized Autism basically kept it going as an entity unto itself. GG survived Jim leaving because GG wasn't about Jim. Matt got exposed for being a piece of shit and was persona non grata in many GG circles less than 9 months in, and Sargon waddled off to go cover other shit. In all three cases you mentioned, GG kept going anyway, until it burned out in late 2015 after the UN's CVAWG incident, and the reason it burnt out was because there was nothing else GG could reasonably expect to accomplish at that point. The only exception to the people you mentioned above is Hambly, who for all intents and purposes got involved with the controversy after it had ended.

I'd love to try and see how these dumbfucks try to function in real life. I remember throughout the 90s and 80s, it was shoulder pushing that caused dumb confrontations. If these assholes get on edge merely because someone had to incidentally brush up on them or accidentally ran into them, I'm sure their reactions are nothing short of taking shit way too far.

I t hink it woul go a little something like this.

 

[School of Fish]

Is it fair for me to compare Monica Rial to Maddox?

To tell you the truth the behavior between these two is pretty much the same.
If you remember anything about Maddox, he sued his former co-host Dick Masterson because he called Maddox a 'cuck' and Maddox would later lose in his own lawsuit in the aftermath.

And I see Monica Rial doing more or less the same thing where she is attacking her own fans that call her out and would later on stated that she is showing screenshots of posts made to her on her social media pages to her attorney so see if they can legally do anything about her so-called 'harassers' on her social media.

Watching Monica Rial meltdown when things don't go her way is pretty funny to watch.

 

[cwcvillemayoress]

If it comes to light that Vic acted like a red blooded stud within the law and a couple of uppity broads considered it degenerate enough to tell the police what occurred who found nothing worth investigating, I won't be surprised.

You know I'm starting to wonder if that's why these "women" (if you can call them that) are only running this whole #kickvic movement because they're jealous spurned lovers who think that if they ruin his life they can get some kind of closure.
But it does make you wonder if Monica tried to do pull this BS with Chris Patton (They apparently dated for a long time) and he just said "Fuck it I'm gay!" so Rial and her brigade of SJWs and Soy Boys wouldn't come after him.
Also do you guys think that maybe Marzgurl is one of the spurned women? or Is she trying to grab her 15 minutes of fame because she wants to be relevant again?

 

[AnOminous]

or Is she trying to grab her 15 minutes of fame because she wants to be relevant again?

"Relevant again" implies she ever was relevant. She is most famous for what exactly? Being third place in the who gets to be Nostalgia Chick contest?

 

[Kosher Salt]

RbW is handing out e-hugs without asking if the person is okay with it...

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Spoiler, they weren't okay with it... they just wanted to talk!

Yikes. That's sexual assault by tweet, right? Maybe only in some states and Canada, but it's got to be illegal somewhere.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

Also do you guys think that maybe Marzgurl is one of the spurned women? or Is she trying to grab her 15 minutes of fame because she wants to be relevant again?

No, her case is different. She is looking to absolve herself of the stain of defending JewWario and get back the "clout" she lost. I am convinced of this. Micah Curtis (formerly of Channel Awesome's Blistered Thumbs) is also convinced of this.
Remember, Vic was going to be the FIRST of many in the anime community who would be removed.
This is literally a crusade for MarzGurl.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

You know I'm starting to wonder if that's why these "women" (if you can call them that) are only running this whole #kickvic movement because they're jealous spurned lovers who think that if they ruin his life they can get some kind of closure.
But it does make you wonder if Monica tried to do pull this BS with Chris Patton (They apparently dated for a long time) and he just said "Fuck it I'm gay!" so Rial and her brigade of SJWs and Soy Boys wouldn't come after him.
Also do you guys think that maybe Marzgurl is one of the spurned women? or Is she trying to grab her 15 minutes of fame because she wants to be relevant again?

Patton identifies as bisexual.

 

[Allanon]

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We are not afraid or nervous

Isn't it interesting how now that he had it explained to him in simple words that her account isn't assault under Texas law this suddenly happened outside Texas? He just neglected to mention that before. Trust him though, it definitely happened in one of the 45 states it counts, and Texas is going to care about that while he says it in Texas and has no proof of it happening there or elsewhere.

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If there's a lot of evidence, why don't you post some?

She sure is making bold claims. Would suck if they were all untrue and it came out that she were intentionally spreading malicious lie about him.

Although it is gratifying to see these scumbags that are responsible for the #kickvic harassment campaign panic and quite possibly actually be held responsible for their actions, I don't believe it is anything other than an anomaly and doesn't represent any sort of sea change.

1. The target is one of the biggest and most beloved figures in the anime voice acting world
2. It involves tortious interference with conventions
3. The scum taking part in the harassment campaign are complete fucking morons

Some random white male voice actor getting targeted and this thread wouldn't exist. They would simple disappear from the anime voice acting world.

Take away the tortious interference and Vic would have an incredibly more difficult time with just defamation claims.

And this thread wouldn't exist if these dimwitted lowlifes had just kept their mouths shut.

Also, I don't believe Kamehacon had any sort of change of heart. It would have taken their lawyer(s) five to ten minutes to let them know that they were in breach of contract with Vic once they became aware of the situation and restore him to the con or get ready to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in damages to him.

Even if these scumbags in the #kickvic harassment campaign are held accountable, there are an endless number of others that will pop up to take their place who will learn from these fuckups to:

1. Be more careful in trying to kick their future targets of harassment and focus on keeping them from ever being contracted in the first place instead of interfering with active contracts.

2. Don't leave a fucking paper trail just ready to be served up like a present for lawsuits like these dumbfucks did

3. Do it in person or over the phone and then don't fucking go brag about it on Twitter.

And finally, I don't think we are going to see any real legal consequences for anyone but the core group of scum that directly interfered with Vic's con contracts. I don't see Vic spending tens of thousands of dollars going after random Twitter accounts with defamation cases unless they are slam dunks and cost very little.

I don't think there is going to be any sort of sea change until it becomes cheaper and practical to sue en masse a social media harassment mob.

With men there is enormous societal pressure to 'be a man' and let the people spewing lies off easy because they 'have been punished enough'. I think we will see Vic focus on restoring his convention and other income and move on even if he personally has a desire to bring others to justice for their sickening attacks on him.

They can't do any of that, because if they quietly unperson someone like smart people who conspire to remove coworkers they don't like, they won't get their Virtue Points on twitter. If they don't get their VPs, they can't cash them in to cover for when they do stupid stuff like accidentally wear 'blackface' for cosplay, or make rape jokes and get caught by their fellow sjw sharks. They also can't get clicks and follows.

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Do it. See how that works out for you.

Please do unmask yourself. That'd be hilarious.

Dear Vic Meggnogna (and other VA's)

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Yeah, that makes sense. He only employed an actual gay man to work alongside him on Star Trek continues and has more than one dear gay friend. Of course he'd rip into a fan for having a manga about fictional gay people. You should see what he said to the guy who voiced that erotic gay novel.

Also the closest I have EVER heard from a credible person about Vic behaving in an entitled manner at a con is that Vic once got a little miffed when he found out that he had a smaller room for a panel than TeamFourStar. From what I heard he was exasperated and asked the staff who the heck they were and why he had a smaller room than them. I also heard that he was later on good terms with them, though. This was when TFS was first getting big and was unexpectedly popular in conventions, so he genuinely had no idea who they were.

"The doujin was fluffy Ed/Mustang"

I don't like that combination of words and I'm a little concerned at what fluffy could mean in that context

It means it was a feel-good cutesy manga. There may or may not have been sex in it anyway, though. Considering his well known stance that he doesn't sign yaoi there's no excuse for anyone to come to him expecting him to sign that. Bring him anything else and I'm sure he'll do it.

I have actually come across reports of Vic's panels running over-time, but they end with him trying to cajole the staff into letting him continue because "the fans". Still unprofessional and not fair to the next scheduled panel, but not nearly so damning.

Honestly, that's not Vic exclusive. Cons book too many guests and panelists, so they never have enough time for each panel. Every panel I've ever been to included the panelists complaining that they don't have enough time, and if it's a Q & A or interactive game panel, then they usually run over time and try to pry extra out of the conventions. It's not a Vic thing, it's an 'unscripted panels don't fit well into convention schedules' thing.

Is Vic my most favorite VA? No. He holds respect from me because he is an actor and has made something for himself though, and he's actually good; I've heard him on FMA any time I got on cable. I might have a lot of baggage too, and my mind is on murder when it comes to the people who put him into this mess, but fuck yes, I am hitching a ride on this fucking train.

Oh, and @Allanon, I would like to apologize for being an imposing dickhead last month. Sorry about that.

I don't even remember what it was about, so don't worry about it.

What could be done with that information, assuming that it even exists? Vic was never convicted of anything in Canada. If anything, there was at most a report written by PonyToast on behalf of the "victim" based on what PonyToast said, which is very weird. It also begs the question of why PonyToast is contacting Rekieta now when the filing of lawsuits is about to happen.

It would probably be the same hugs that Vic does in the United States, specifically Texas, whatever he's being accused of in Canada.

Interesting how now two months after people kept pointing out how not one single person filed a report, now suddenly there's a police report. (supposedly). Like someone just decided that it would be a slam dunk if only the most basic of things people asked for were to exist (allegedly).

That said, even if Vic were guilty of some other crime in Canada that he just neglected to tell the Beard, it won't have any impact on his defamation suits, as those didn't allege he assaulted anyone in Canada. I suppose it might hurt his credibility a bit if it turned out he did touch SOMEONE inappropriately, but it still wouldn't mean he touched Rial inappropriately. Or Jamie, or any of the others.

But most likely it's just a bunch of nothing. Like everything else.

Why do they keep making what's essentially the same tweet repeatedly. It's like a written stutter.

If you keep repeating lies, eventually people start to believe them.

 

[RodgerDodger]

RbW is handing out e-hugs without asking if the person is okay with it...
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Spoiler, they weren't okay with it... they just wanted to talk!
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Yikes. That's sexual assault by tweet, right? Maybe only in some states and Canada, but it's got to be illegal somewhere.

I'm writing up a report and giving it to my Canadian Girlfriend. She says she'll file a police report on it.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

No, her case is different. She is looking to absolve herself of the stain of defending JewWario and get back the "clout" she lost. I am convinced of this. Micah Curtis (formerly of Channel Awesome's Blistered Thumbs) is also convinced of this.
Remember, Vic was going to be the FIRST of many in the anime community who would be removed.
This is literally a crusade for MarzGurl.

In the very historical sense of the term, MarzGurl is on a crusade.

But instead of actually just killing a bunch of Semitic people because she's poor and dumb warring with others with swords and junk, she's trying to play journalist.

...she's still as dumb as much of those historical crusaders, though.

 

[huckbeine]

That is factually incorrect.
No one "hijacked" GG. A bunch of people fucking tried, including Vordrak and Ethan Ralph, but GG's weaponized Autism basically kept it going as an entity unto itself. GG survived Jim leaving because GG wasn't about Jim. Matt got exposed for being a piece of shit and was persona non grata in many GG circles less than 9 months in, and Sargon waddled off to go cover other shit. In all three cases you mentioned, GG kept going anyway, until it burned out in late 2015 after the UN's CVAWG incident, and the reason it burnt out was because there was nothing else GG could reasonably expect to accomplish at that point. The only exception to the people you mentioned above is Hambly, who for all intents and purposes got involved with the controversy after it had ended.

I know you think that Gamergate is supposed to be a leaderless movement, a shining example of consumer revolt, but the fact of the matter is, Gamergate didn't gain the traction that it got until Jim made videos about it. the movement was dead way before it lift out until Jim made Quinnspiracy videos. Whether you like it or not, Jim was the de-facto leader of Gamergate, even though he doesn't like it.
Sargon's youtube was nothing more than shitty mtg and d&d videos until he jumped in to earn shekels, along with mundanematt and most if not of all the (((skeptics/liberalists))). In fact their group started the "not your shield" and "its about ethics in gaming journalism".
And what happened when Jim left?? It became a movement for stupid hugboxing like donating to stupid causes, more stupid things jumping in like /baph/, Milo and the others are shekeling hard, not focusing on gamergate.
If anything, with all the IBS/Skeptics/Liberalist shit that happened and its fallout, the only e-celeb GGer that was truly invested in the movement was Jim

 

[Recoil]

I haven't seen it mentioned yet (I'm guessing I missed it), but Renfamous has a very bigoted past. Years before her Twitter SocJus crusade she was protesting gay marriage, saying things like "They should have fire hoses turned on them" in reference to a pride parade or something. She also made statements regarding euthanasia for infants with disabilities, something to the tune of "They should have put that flipper baby to sleep." Also - i think -some things about how gay couples will molest the kids they adopt, but I'm hazy. I'd love to go dig up the screenshots for the thread, but I'm thinking they've been scrubbed from the net.

I'm 80% sure on this stuff. My memory is spotty when it comes to things this far back, but IIRC when Orka first showed up and kinda just inserted inserted herself into the comicsgate brouhaha, people did their research and found she'd used the name across a host of sites, including one forum where she made some real winning remarks. The take away for me was that she's always just needed some direction in which to throw shade and ideology is largely irrelevant to her at the day's end.

 

[Genkoda]

I haven't seen it mentioned yet (I'm guessing I missed it), but Renfamous has a very bigoted past. Years before her Twitter SocJus crusade she was protesting gay marriage, saying things like "They should have fire hoses turned on them" in reference to a pride parade or something. She also made statements regarding euthanasia for infants with disabilities, something to the tune of "They should have put that flipper baby to sleep." Also - i think -some things about how gay couples will molest the kids they adopt, but I'm hazy. I'd love to go dig up the screenshots for the thread, but I'm thinking they've been scrubbed from the net.

I'm 80% sure on this stuff. My memory is spotty when it comes to things this far back, but IIRC when Orka first showed up and kinda just inserted inserted herself into the comicsgate brouhaha, people did their research and found she'd used the name across a host of sites, including one forum where she made some real winning remarks. The take away for me was that she's always just needed some direction in which to throw shade and ideology is largely irrelevant to her at the day's end.

It is safe to assume all these people have some pretty bad skeletons in their closet. Just like it is safe to assume all self proclaimed male feminist are probably predators.