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People in chat have said Ryo is sick, maybe he was hoping to be well by the time he needed to be at the con and in the end it didn't pan out that way. One thing I have to ask though is wouldn't he already have traveled by now? The con starts on the 12th and I don't think he'd want to fly from Japan and basically have to go straight to the convention with very little respite between.
Dunno. Not sure if things are different for Ryo since he's a foreign national, but I know dub VAs fly in and out on the first/last days of their cons if they're out of state. I could see Ryo coming in early Friday and leaving late Sunday or early Monday.
 
Dunno. Not sure if things are different for Ryo since he's a foreign national, but I know dub VAs fly in and out on the first/last days of their cons if they're out of state. I could see Ryo coming in early Friday and leaving late Sunday or early Monday.
You're looking at a 12+ hour flight from Nippon to Texas, not to mention the fucked up time zone difference. I know I wouldn't be wanting to dive right into fan interactions after all that at the age of 61. Then again Ryo is an absolute baller whose supposedly a very lively dude at cons and loves a good drink.
 
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Or he could just play a Fate visual novel. It's all smut.
I mean I'd like to see him stream it and see his reactions to the weirdness that is Japan.

You're looking at a 12+ hour flight from Nippon to Texas, not to mention the fucked up time zone difference. I know I wouldn't be wanting to dive right into fan interactions after all that at the age of 61. Then again Ryo is an absolute baller whose supposedly a very lively dude at cons and loves a good drink.
Fair enough. Just trying to figure out where Ryo would be at the time of this cancellation announcement.
 
That's what we expected. Toei is sending a message. Probably about unlicensed shit going down and other shenanigans.


The date is for Thursday, because the report was pulled for today or rather yesterday. That date just reflects what date the report was pulled and printed. "How much is do as of today?"
I highly doubt it's about unlicensed shit unless they're using official material like TFS does, otherwise something would've happened last KC.
 
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I mean I'd like to see him stream it and see his reactions to the weirdness that is Japan.


Fair enough. Just trying to figure out where Ryo would be at the time of this cancellation announcement.
That's what I'm trying to figure out, I was thinking he would already be in the air at the time Kamehacon announced he wasn't coming. If he was sick surely they'd have had a heads up well before this. But then again Kamehacon's customer service interactions look like a mess with people getting different responses when they pm them on facebook or the almost 2 hour wait between some one messaging them about getting a notice of the studio tour being cancelled and the con getting back to them to confirm it's cancelled.
 
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I highly doubt it's about unlicensed shit unless they're using official material like TFS does, otherwise something would've happened last KC.
like I mentioned, there's tons of unlicensed doujin floating around japan being sold at cons and most companies, Toei included, do nothing. of course, there is a difference between japan and america, but fact is Toei is at worst tolerant of unlicensed undeserved merch sales.

what they don't like are shitshows and based on TFS, mockery. most doujins even ones poking fun at the source material do have a level of appreciation to it, from a japanese perspective.

TFS on the other hand is american made and comes from that perspective, which since its mocking can come off as rude and insulting.
 
The date is for Thursday, because the report was pulled for today or rather yesterday. That date just reflects what date the report was pulled and printed. "How much is do as of today?"

Passing hot checks is pretty much turbo sped, white trash loser material. Shane is a sad fucking loser indeed.
 
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this whole twitter is archive worthy, a new accuser with no evidence of course, just listen and believe bs and you dont deserve evidence or con names, honestly i was going to start archiving but its like 50+ posts of rambling, im finding more and more that once these people latch onto the vic situation, they post a slew of shit regarding it.


Edit: yesterday TUG video for a quick run down for the tl;dr of posts
Reminder TUG barely archives the stuff he covers in his videos, he stops at just mobile screenshots most of the time.
 
like I mentioned, there's tons of unlicensed doujin floating around japan being sold at cons and most companies, Toei included, do nothing. of course, there is a difference between japan and america, but fact is Toei is at worst tolerant of unlicensed undeserved merch sales.

what they don't like are shitshows and based on TFS, mockery. most doujins even ones poking fun at the source material do have a level of appreciation to it, from a japanese perspective.

TFS on the other hand is american made and comes from that perspective, which since its mocking can come off as rude and insulting.
I don't even think it has anything to do with the content of TFS, I think its just about them using their footage to make their shit.
 
I don't even think it has anything to do with the content of TFS, I think its just about them using their footage to make their shit.
except again, there are doujins that look like they could've been made by araki himself that have been circulated in japans cons that the mighty hand of Toei barely looked at if at all.

its about the attitude of the creators and its hard to discern on the first episode, never mind through the lense of foreign language.
 
except again, there are doujins that look like they could've been made by araki himself that have been circulated in japans cons that the mighty hand of Toei barely looked at if at all.

its about the attitude of the creators and its hard to discern on the first episode, never mind through the lense of foreign language.
But that's the thing, regardless of the quality and content of those doujins, they are entirely original material made entirely by whoever made them. They're not plagiarizing content, they're not using material made by Toriyama or Toei(like TFS), they're created entirely by fans and that makes a big difference when comes to Toei going after you.
 
I'm confused on what he was saying, was it that Vic had a problem with how Sabat treated fans and called him out? Or was it the other way around?
Considering we've seen how Vic is with fans on his weekly livestreams, I doubt Sabat is going to call him out for being too nice to them. Unless it was as case of "do not fratenize with the peasantry".
 
But that's the thing, regardless of the quality and content of those doujins, they are entirely original material made entirely by whoever made them. They're not plagiarizing content, they're not using material made by Toriyama or Toei(like TFS), they're created entirely by fans and that makes a big difference when comes to Toei going after you.
but that's such a small difference that no japanese company is going to do that. as autistic as toei with IP protection, the pattern does not fit the behavior as you describe it. if it is, then that means Toeis management is no better than Funi and worse because of the autism regarding IP protection.
 
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