Orbiter Kat Speculation - With guest appearances by her sister, Jenna

[JohnnyBoi]

Very, very true. If we take D$P at his word, she moved with little more than her PC and the clothes on her back. No furniture, no phone, no car and needing to go out and buy clothes when she arrived.

The fankids will help cause you know phil will push the financial burden onto them.

 

[ReentryPhantom]

I'm not 100% but I think there was talk that they used to be high school sweethearts.

I believe Subaruman is like 5 years younger than Khet

 

[Prince Lotor]

I believe Subaruman is like 5 years younger than Khet

That would put him at like 18 to 19 when he met her. That actually would make my understanding of their relationship make a bit more sense. I've always thought that after a few years he began to want a serious relationship and that's what drove her away because she just wanted a flop-house to play video games in all day with a roommate she plays nice with for a couple hours a day. Distant and demanding is a hard scam to pull off unless you find an autist like Phil who gets off on blowing money and only wants a chauffeuse 1 day a week.

Edit: For the one I can find it says he's like 1 or 2 years younger, so that would put him at like 21 to 23 when they started dating. Makes sense that by around 24 to 26 he got tired of the do nothing/play video games all day shit from her while he payed for everything and either wanted a serious commitment with her or for her to admit she was just using him. She made it pretty clear she was just using him when she posted those sexy 'just because' pictures on Twitter the day after Phil started talking to her and started 'dating' Phil, while still pretending to be with him for another 2½ months until he found out.

 

[WuFanMan]

That would put him at like 18 to 19 when he met her. That actually would make my understanding of their relationship make a bit more sense. I've always thought that after a few years he began to want a serious relationship and that's what drove her away because she just wanted a flop-house to play video games in all day with a roommate she plays nice with for a couple hours a day. Distant and demanding is a hard scam to pull off unless you find an autist like Phil who gets off on blowing money and only wants a chauffeuse 1 day a week.

Edit: For the one I can find it says he's like 1 or 2 years younger, so that would put him at like 21 to 23 when they started dating. Makes sense that by around 24 to 26 he got tired of the do nothing/play video games all day shit from her while he payed for everything and either wanted a serious commitment with her or for her to admit she was just using him. She made it pretty clear she was just using him when she posted those sexy 'just because' pictures on Twitter the day after Phil started talking to her and started 'dating' Phil, while still pretending to be with him for another 2½ months until he found out.

I'm very confused at the cognitive dissonance that has to occur though that she would not commit to someone paying out for her while all she does is play video games to moving to another state and commuting to living with someone AND working???

I do believe I keep up with this stuff and I know she's not the brightest bulb but...?? There's something missing no?

Unless that alone proves that Phil is doing financially well considering that knowing moving in that she's moved on to a better "sugar daddy" without the sex and more gout.

 

[Wurstbrot]

Unless that alone proves that Phil is doing financially well considering that knowing moving in that she's moved on to a better "sugar daddy" without the sex and more gout

She helps him financially, he admitted this some months ago, she even gave him more than he could accept (provided it's not a lie). There is quite good evidence she still does that:
Whenever someone writes "Does Khät not help with your finances?" the banhamner hammers down and not a single word to adress it. He knows he told this before, he can't just blatantly lie. But if he admits then the tasty flow of rich money could ebb away. Damn Phil, I do wonder why many think you are filthy rich and just impressively greedy.

 

[Prince Lotor]

I'm very confused at the cognitive dissonance that has to occur though that she would not commit to someone paying out for her while all she does is play video games to moving to another state and commuting to living with someone AND working???

I do believe I keep up with this stuff and I know she's not the brightest bulb but...?? There's something missing no?

Unless that alone proves that Phil is doing financially well considering that knowing moving in that she's moved on to a better "sugar daddy" without the sex and more gout.

Well, at the start. . .Phil says she was his girlfriend from the beginning of June, so probably the same day she went dark on all social media, June 4th. She then for the next 10 weeks, until August 16th, was both Phil's girlfriend and Subaru-Man's as she had not broken-up with Subaru-Man, who she kept using for money. Subaru-Man then caught her messaging Phil in front of him and kicked her the fuck out and "had nothing more to do with her".
For the next 6 months, from August 16th to February 12th, she was out on her own living who knows where. Before she moved in with Phil the place she was living in was a short-term lease that she expected to be able to re-sign for 3 months, so maybe she lived in a motel for 3 months until she found the place being offered for short-term rental, I don't know. From Phil saying, "she spent her tax return on a PS4 Pro," I assume that meant all of it and extrapolate that she likely worked some minimum wage job for part of the year from the amounts.

The point is she was a cheating bitch who was using her long-term boyfriend for money and housing, and she tried to keep that going with no indication of ending it, she got caught and ktfo, had to get a job and live in random places, had to get whatever job she could, sweet-talked the fuck out of Phil every night for months (I believe so Phil would send her $), didn't want to move-in with Phil until she had no options there. She lied to her long-term boyfriend to keep that shit going, but before moving-in with Phil she was working and living on her own for 6 months in Michigan and wanted to keep that life going (with Phil sending her $).

 

[ReentryPhantom]

That would put him at like 18 to 19 when he met her. That actually would make my understanding of their relationship make a bit more sense. I've always thought that after a few years he began to want a serious relationship and that's what drove her away because she just wanted a flop-house to play video games in all day with a roommate she plays nice with for a couple hours a day. Distant and demanding is a hard scam to pull off unless you find an autist like Phil who gets off on blowing money and only wants a chauffeuse 1 day a week.

Edit: For the one I can find it says he's like 1 or 2 years younger, so that would put him at like 21 to 23 when they started dating. Makes sense that by around 24 to 26 he got tired of the do nothing/play video games all day shit from her while he payed for everything and either wanted a serious commitment with her or for her to admit she was just using him. She made it pretty clear she was just using him when she posted those sexy 'just because' pictures on Twitter the day after Phil started talking to her and started 'dating' Phil, while still pretending to be with him for another 2½ months until he found out.

My reasoning for saying that age is on his instagram, he shows off a senior project in a post from 2014

 

[MoonRocker]

Autistic theory time as to why Khet might only be working part-time or not working at all: Phil is trying to protect her from being influenced by her co-workers, just like it happened with PandaLee. At this point, he won't allow himself to repeat the same mistake. The last thing he wants is Khet to have too much outside exposure and realize that DSP is a piece of shit that's not worth settling for.

Obviously, the moment PandaLee got a job was a huge turning point in the Goutmansion. That's when she realized she was wasting her life with Phil and, ultimately, living with a narcissist who doesn't care about her well-being (this fucker doxxed her mental illness... willingly); she instinctively understood it wasn't going to work out. There were already enough cracks in the seams with the streams where they got into a fight and where she was making dick-sucking motions when he kept reinforcing the fact that he was a pro-gaymer. Trouble in paradise was witnessed multiple times between Leanna and Dave as their relationship was always shaky to begin with (the age difference was a gap that was too immense to ever close anyways as DSP just wants a housewife).

The whole PandaLee/ DSP relationship was very weird to me. Watching old vlogs, you can tell how much his off-beat racism, his crass mannerisms, his bitching/ complaining influenced Leanna because, let's face it, she was a child when she dated Phil. He molded her indirectly as they spent so much time together and with the age difference, younger women who willingly trap themselves in relationships with older men are instinctively attracted to their personality and tend to adopt that personality in turn. To be fair to Phil, Leanna never seemed like the sharpest tool in the shed and she seemed happy to be comfortable. But she wanted more. She wanted someone who would care for her and Phil was never going to be that person.

There are some noticeable trends between Khet and Leanna:

1. They both suffer from mental illness (Khet is obviously on benzodiazapenes, I'd even say abusing them because every time she came on stream she went from out of it/ passive to agitated whenever she focused on the troll comments). Her busting the stress ball during a stream demonstrates she has anxiety and we doxxed her mental illnesses anyways.
2. They both want to be coddled and pampered. They both want to be taken care of financially but banking that with Phil is honestly terrible long-term security.
3. They both have shitty taste in men. Probably stems from a broken household/ desperation. Who knows on that front.
4. Khet, however, has demonstrated she's willing to cheat with some fat random slob from the internet and be comfortable to be flown to the house of a stranger she met on Twitter. That's not something a person with any values or integrity would put themselves and their significant other through. Goodwill is obviously lacking here.
5. Phil also demonstrated he'll lowkey fly your girl out to his house and fuck her. He's just as a piece of shit as Khet.

 

[Ahffline]

Phil also demonstrated he'll lowkey fly your girl out to his house and fuck her. He's just as a piece of shit as Khet.

This. The two of them deserve each other.

Someone earlier in the thread - I think it was Hans Gruber? - mentioned that the wedding gown looked like a Communion Dress. I'm thinking it's someone's hand-me-down Confirmation dress. It's definitely a leftover from a Sacrament, lol.

I'm looking forward to hearing Philbert's spin on this. Could make for some hilarious oinkage.

 

[ZehnBoat]

Autistic theory time as to why Khet might only be working part-time or not working at all: Phil is trying to protect her from being influenced by her co-workers, just like it happened with PandaLee. At this point, he won't allow himself to repeat the same mistake. The last thing he wants is Khet to have too much outside exposure and realize that DSP is a piece of shit that's not worth settling for.

counterpoint:
kat is a golddigger and is wanting an easy life
if phil even dared to ask her to bring in extra money she'd bust his balls and tell him no

 

[Phil Factor]

Autistic theory time as to why Khet might only be working part-time or not working at all: Phil is trying to protect her from being influenced by her co-workers, just like it happened with PandaLee. At this point, he won't allow himself to repeat the same mistake. The last thing he wants is Khet to have too much outside exposure and realize that DSP is a piece of shit that's not worth settling for.

I've always viewed them as a weird Bonnie and Clyde wannabe type where they're ride or die in the autistic world of the Internet. She's got a weird background behind her and she's obviously aware of his...

I was surprised because Phil would just openly tell us how she's sleeping on a couch or making him microwaved meals. Then again, Phil's always had pretty shit tastes in things too lol

 

[King of Gout]

Kat has issues, I saw that right off the bat when she showed up for the first time on his stream. She was very uncomfortable, she has a very weird behaviour. It is pretty clear she does't love Phil and will very likely cheat on him in the first chance she gets, I think she is very different from Leanna in many aspects. Leanna made everything she could to make Phil pay attention to her, it was obviously Leanna loved and cared about him, but with time, as he was acting more and more distant towards her, she realized there was more in life than just being in a house with Gout Kid. Their relationship was bad for at least a couple of years before the break up, Phil was masturbating for some reason, he woudn't be doing that if he was actually having sex with Leanna, I am quite sure they were not even sleeping in the same room anymore.

I didn't like Leanna at first, I thougt she was a bit arrogant and her voice was very annoying, but then I remember she was very young back then, she still had a teen mentality. As she grew older, she became more bearable and she was way more responsible and mature than Phil. Phil just wanted a maid to cook him meals and clean the house. It was sad how he said the think he missed the most about being with someone was the fact no one was cooking him dinner, so it was very clear Phil doesn't want a wife, he wants a maid.

People don't stay with Phil for long, he has no friends, no relatives that come to visit him, I think even his parents are kind of wary of him, truth be told. Who would go to the other side of the country to live if they have a good relationship with his/her parents? I could understand if it was work related, but it was not, he just moved over there to isolate himself and do whatever he wanted, he didn't want family obligations or friendships. He just used Rambo and the others, he knew people liked Rambo when they co-opped, that was the reason he kept Rambo close before moving to Washington, because his views would increase whenever he joined for a co-op.

I think Phil is a sociopath, at least to some degree. He won't really harm the person physically, but he will surely hurt them mentally. I am quite sure he was a dick many times towards Leanna, the emergency stream was totally uncalled for, he even got angry that he was going to lose money because he had to go and see her. What kind of deranged human being would think like that? Money before the people you (supposedly) love?

I remember I used to be a fan of his channel when he started, he seemed to be a very down to earth bloke, his humour was actually funny years ago. But with time he just became greedy and play the games all bored and with lame jokes.

I think Kat will leave him at some point, there's nothing really worth golddiging when it comes to Phil. She won't be able to maitain the house in Washington, unless she sells it and just take the money.

 

[Kheapathic]

Kat has issues, I saw that right off the bat when she showed up for the first time on his stream. She was very uncomfortable, she has a very weird behaviour. It is pretty clear she does't love Phil and will very likely cheat on him in the first chance she gets, I think she is very different from Leanna in many aspects. Leanna made everything she could to make Phil pay attention to her, it was obviously Leanna loved and cared about him, but with time, as he was acting more and more distant towards her, she realized there was more in life than just being in a house with Gout Kid. Their relationship was bad for at least a couple of years before the break up, Phil was masturbating for some reason, he woudn't be doing that if he was actually having sex with Leanna, I am quite sure they were not even sleeping in the same room anymore.

I didn't like Leanna at first, I thougt she was a bit arrogant and her voice was very annoying, but then I remember she was very young back then, she still had a teen mentality. As she grew older, she became more bearable and she was way more responsible and mature than Phil. Phil just wanted a maid to cook him meals and clean the house. It was sad how he said the think he missed the most about being with someone was the fact no one was cooking him dinner, so it was very clear Phil doesn't want a wife, he wants a maid.

The main problem with Kat is she has more red flags than a military parade in the Soviet Union. The big one being she apparently had a comfortable life with Subaru Man; but rebuked that to hop on the gout train, flew out a few times, and then made a permanent move. I'm open to the idea of people being able to change, but it usually comes with a huge life-changing occurrence. With that in mind, she's a trust hazard, and marriage won't change that, only enhance the damage (emotionally and fiscally) when the split happens. With Leanna, the changing point for me was watching her try to be playful with Phil while he was playing Nier: Automata. She was trying to be cute and playful, and Phil just sat there like a retard, then apologized to the chat for not paying attention to them. Which then led to Leanna pointing at his crotch and saying it'll remain a man-only zone. I know plenty of people are emotionally retarded, but Phil is on a whole other level.

People don't stay with Phil for long, he has no friends, no relatives that come to visit him, I think even his parents are kind of wary of him, truth be told. Who would go to the other side of the country to live if they have a good relationship with his/her parents? I could understand if it was work related, but it was not, he just moved over there to isolate himself and do whatever he wanted, he didn't want family obligations or friendships. He just used Rambo and the others, he knew people liked Rambo when they co-opped, that was the reason he kept Rambo close before moving to Washington, because his views would increase whenever he joined for a co-op.

I think Phil is a sociopath, at least to some degree. He won't really harm the person physically, but he will surely hurt them mentally. I am quite sure he was a dick many times towards Leanna, the emergency stream was totally uncalled for, he even got angry that he was going to lose money because he had to go and see her. What kind of deranged human being would think like that? Money before the people you (supposedly) love?

I can't tell if he's a sociopath or just emotionally retarded. Sociopaths generally understand they use people to further themselves, which he does with his viewers. But the way he complains about his real life relationships makes me lean towards the retard side. Yes he's abusive in his own way; emotionally, and isolating the women he lives with. But at the same time, a clever sociopath could play the game better than he did; i.e. not broadcast everything to the internet. Maybe it's just something I don't see, but it's like he jumps between decent manipulator and absolute retard.

I remember I used to be a fan of his channel when he started, he seemed to be a very down to earth bloke, his humour was actually funny years ago. But with time he just became greedy and play the games all bored and with lame jokes.

I think Kat will leave him at some point, there's nothing really worth golddiging when it comes to Phil. She won't be able to maitain the house in Washington, unless she sells it and just take the money.

No doubt she's going to leave. She left Subaru Man for Phil, jumping across the country for him. It'll only be a matter of time till she thinks she finds something better, or says fuck it and leaves. The question is how much damage that marriage contract is going to cause Phil, and if it'll actually finish him off.

 

[FailedAttempt]

The main problem with Kat is she has more red flags than a military parade in the Soviet Union. The big one being she apparently had a comfortable life with Subaru Man; but rebuked that to hop on the gout train, flew out a few times, and then made a permanent move. I'm open to the idea of people being able to change, but it usually comes with a huge life-changing occurrence. With that in mind, she's a trust hazard, and marriage won't change that, only enhance the damage (emotionally and fiscally) when the split happens. With Leanna, the changing point for me was watching her try to be playful with Phil while he was playing Nier: Automata. She was trying to be cute and playful, and Phil just sat there like an exceptional individual, then apologized to the chat for not paying attention to them. Which then led to Leanna pointing at his crotch and saying it'll remain a man-only zone. I know plenty of people are emotionally exceptional, but Phil is on a whole other level.



I can't tell if he's a sociopath or just emotionally exceptional. Sociopaths generally understand they use people to further themselves, which he does with his viewers. But the way he complains about his real life relationships makes me lean towards the exceptional individual side. Yes he's abusive in his own way; emotionally, and isolating the women he lives with. But at the same time, a clever sociopath could play the game better than he did; i.e. not broadcast everything to the internet. Maybe it's just something I don't see, but it's like he jumps between decent manipulator and absolute exceptional individual.



No doubt she's going to leave. She left Subaru Man for Phil, jumping across the country for him. It'll only be a matter of time till she thinks she finds something better, or says fuck it and leaves. The question is how much damage that marriage contract is going to cause Phil, and if it'll actually finish him off.

I always assumed she was just biding her time until she found a better option, but now she married the dude. Idk, marriage is kind of a big commitment to make to someone you don’t love.

The only thing that makes sense to me at this point is that Kat (whether she knows it or not) probably sees Phil as father figure after he saved her from the streets when suburu man put her out for being a thot. She most likely has some kinda daddy issues, and Phil might actually be scratching that itch for her.

Of course if she ever meets a real man, she’s outta there. Once a cheater always a cheater IMO.

 

[MoonRocker]

Kat has issues, I saw that right off the bat when she showed up for the first time on his stream. She was very uncomfortable, she has a very weird behaviour. It is pretty clear she does't love Phil and will very likely cheat on him in the first chance she gets, I think she is very different from Leanna in many aspects. Leanna made everything she could to make Phil pay attention to her, it was obviously Leanna loved and cared about him, but with time, as he was acting more and more distant towards her, she realized there was more in life than just being in a house with Gout Kid. Their relationship was bad for at least a couple of years before the break up, Phil was masturbating for some reason, he woudn't be doing that if he was actually having sex with Leanna, I am quite sure they were not even sleeping in the same room anymore.

It's hard to tell from three streams whether she "loves" someone. I don't think it's the "soulmate" bullshit Phil keeps spouting up, but she must have feelings for the dude. Again: I stand 100% by my hypothesis that Khet is currently abusing Xanax/ Klonopin/ Valium (as it coincides with her mental health issues) hence why she has difficulty emoting normally but is able to go through bouts of anger as we've seen whenever the "trolls" came up as subject (sadly enough those pills regulate your anxiety poorly and make you more susceptible to anger and anxiety, as witnessed when she literally destroyed a stress ball). I went through my own issues with pill abuse a few years back and a few traits that Khet displayed remind me of myself when I was using.

She's different from Leanna simply based on age. Khet is a few years older than Phil and doesn't seem to be vying for the Gout Lord's attention on the level that Leanna was. Maturity is huge here but given that Khet was willingly cheating on her boyfriend with Phil, she's not displaying the most mature actions.

FYI, someone mentioned that Subaru Man was 23 years old. Has that been verified (would give some more insight as to why she left him in the first place)?

I didn't like Leanna at first, I thougt she was a bit arrogant and her voice was very annoying, but then I remember she was very young back then, she still had a teen mentality. As she grew older, she became more bearable and she was way more responsible and mature than Phil. Phil just wanted a maid to cook him meals and clean the house. It was sad how he said the think he missed the most about being with someone was the fact no one was cooking him dinner, so it was very clear Phil doesn't want a wife, he wants a maid.

Leanna was a fucking child when she started dating Phil. There's a reason why people called her his daughter. She was young, highly impressionable, and adopted a lot of Phil's traits that he had in his mid-20s/ late-20s. As she got older, she started changing and realized that he didn't care about her. Girls pick up on that shit quick and Phil sucks at being honest with his feelings.

People don't stay with Phil for long, he has no friends, no relatives that come to visit him, I think even his parents are kind of wary of him, truth be told. Who would go to the other side of the country to live if they have a good relationship with his/her parents? I could understand if it was work related, but it was not, he just moved over there to isolate himself and do whatever he wanted, he didn't want family obligations or friendships. He just used Rambo and the others, he knew people liked Rambo when they co-opped, that was the reason he kept Rambo close before moving to Washington, because his views would increase whenever he joined for a co-op.

Good call. Never thought about his relationship with his parents. It is weird now that you mention that the first time he's seen them in three years was to go get married. Odd.

I think Phil is a sociopath, at least to some degree. He won't really harm the person physically, but he will surely hurt them mentally. I am quite sure he was a dick many times towards Leanna, the emergency stream was totally uncalled for, he even got angry that he was going to lose money because he had to go and see her. What kind of deranged human being would think like that? Money before the people you (supposedly) love?

Nah, he's not a sociopath. Phil is simply emotionally abusive because he neglects his own feelings and therefore is not equipped to deal with the feelings of others.

I think Kat will leave him at some point, there's nothing really worth golddiging when it comes to Phil. She won't be able to maitain the house in Washington, unless she sells it and just take the money.

Down the line? Sure.

Any time soon? I wouldn't bank on it. She just rolled the dice and she's made her (gout) fort in WA. Let's not forget that Khet also is alieniated from her own family and nothing tied her down to CT. I believe she suits DSP more because she's obviously not emotionally needy since she's also so detached from her own feelings.

She's just unstable and has mental illnesses. DSP knows how to pick 'em.

 

[That Hedonist Nerd]

Phil is what writers call an unreliable narrator; where you know the information is coming from a compromised source. There's varying degrees of being compromised, but the idea is the same. He has a history of misleading, fabricating, or otherwise fucking lying to everyone. You can't take anything he says at face value, because you know his take is skewed.

This is the most perfect sumation of it!

 

[James Smith]

Khet is a few years older than Phil

No she's not. She's still almost a decade younger than he is.

 

[uncritically]

The main problem with Kat is she has more red flags than a military parade in the Soviet Union. The big one being she apparently had a comfortable life with Subaru Man; but rebuked that to hop on the gout train, flew out a few times, and then made a permanent move. I'm open to the idea of people being able to change, but it usually comes with a huge life-changing occurrence. With that in mind, she's a trust hazard, and marriage won't change that, only enhance the damage (emotionally and fiscally) when the split happens. With Leanna, the changing point for me was watching her try to be playful with Phil while he was playing Nier: Automata. She was trying to be cute and playful, and Phil just sat there like an exceptional individual, then apologized to the chat for not paying attention to them. Which then led to Leanna pointing at his crotch and saying it'll remain a man-only zone. I know plenty of people are emotionally exceptional, but Phil is on a whole other level.



I can't tell if he's a sociopath or just emotionally exceptional. Sociopaths generally understand they use people to further themselves, which he does with his viewers. But the way he complains about his real life relationships makes me lean towards the exceptional individual side. Yes he's abusive in his own way; emotionally, and isolating the women he lives with. But at the same time, a clever sociopath could play the game better than he did; i.e. not broadcast everything to the internet. Maybe it's just something I don't see, but it's like he jumps between decent manipulator and absolute exceptional individual.



No doubt she's going to leave. She left Subaru Man for Phil, jumping across the country for him. It'll only be a matter of time till she thinks she finds something better, or says fuck it and leaves. The question is how much damage that marriage contract is going to cause Phil, and if it'll actually finish him off.

I dont think DSP is a sociopath, but he definitely has narcissistic tendencies imo. For instance either someone is the most amazing person ever (they're useful to him, or he can manipulate them) or they're a piece of shit (people who have slighted his ego, or have wised up to his manipulations.) there's no real in between.

 

[gin_nose]

No she's not. She's still almost a decade younger than he is.

Correct me if i am wrong, but isnt she basically the same age as Panda?

 

[ReentryPhantom]

Correct me if i am wrong, but isnt she basically the same age as Panda?

I believe she is 3 years older. I guess that's basically the same age. Depends on how you look at it.