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Well if he wanted friends to genuinely like him for who he is, step one would be to make himself actually likeable.
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Maybe we should refer to people who try to help Chris via trolling as "Dark Knights"
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Thats giving me war flashbacks to the batman call
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Actually for the first time I'm debating whether an angry Chris dealing with an absurd life fabricated by the trolls is better or worse for him in the long run than where he would probably ended up without it, in jail. To be honest the most detrimental things to happen involving Chris are all his own doing. His banning from the game place, his banning from school(importsnt to forming meaningful relationships and a career perspective), his attack on Snyder and now him pepper spraying a GameStop employee.
In all seriousness its better the trolls accelerated the destruction of his relationship with Meghan. They didn't destroy it, he did, but its better than the stalking, touching, and general creepery that would have happened without the trolls putting him into a ridiculous rage.
Chris was poorly dealing with his own reality in a delusional and bizarre way since stackhouse which is way before he was ever trolled. He was firing curse Ye ha me has at Mary Lee Walsh because he was trying to solicit sex.
The trolling at best made him flip out on people who knew what was coming and weren't going to call the cops on him. We got to see him respond poorly to fabricated scenarios. Chris makes Chris miserable, its the way he interprets life around him. He never got thr treatment as an autistic child that he needed in order to cope with the world that he never learned doesn't revolve around him.
Chris might actually be too fucked up for treatment that isn't a day to day method. In all seriousness, the trolling at least kept him inside, glaring at the computer yelling at people that understood he shouldn't be taken seriously.
That's why calling out saga was my favorite one. Those people are all ridiculous. Them arguing with one another isn't going to hurt anyone.
Chris has been headed to a group home or prison since his parents decided not to put him in a school with autistic children. He never got to understand his own condition and his own pathology. Instead he insists that he has been mainstreamed and uses symptoms to explain his poor behavior. He has no autistic success models and no autistic comrades to understand and inform him about his unique subjectivity. There is almost no help besides an intense psychotherapy regiment or a group home.
In short, its kinda like poking a rabid possum in the bottom of a garbage can till animal control arrives. Its probably best you don't let it go outside of the can and its probably best you keep an eye on it. Its not getting better by poking it, and someone else is gonna take care of it eventually, but eh, maybe the angry possum gets to live longer
There are limits to that. Bluespike was awful, the Manchester scam was pretty awful as well. But something like liquid or whatever isn't going to do too much harm to him in the long run. I want to see him get better too. Chris able to laugh about this the way tommy wiesau can laugh about making something as bad as the room would be wonderful
In all seriousness its better the trolls accelerated the destruction of his relationship with Meghan. They didn't destroy it, he did, but its better than the stalking, touching, and general creepery that would have happened without the trolls putting him into a ridiculous rage.
Chris was poorly dealing with his own reality in a delusional and bizarre way since stackhouse which is way before he was ever trolled. He was firing curse Ye ha me has at Mary Lee Walsh because he was trying to solicit sex.
The trolling at best made him flip out on people who knew what was coming and weren't going to call the cops on him. We got to see him respond poorly to fabricated scenarios. Chris makes Chris miserable, its the way he interprets life around him. He never got thr treatment as an autistic child that he needed in order to cope with the world that he never learned doesn't revolve around him.
Chris might actually be too fucked up for treatment that isn't a day to day method. In all seriousness, the trolling at least kept him inside, glaring at the computer yelling at people that understood he shouldn't be taken seriously.
That's why calling out saga was my favorite one. Those people are all ridiculous. Them arguing with one another isn't going to hurt anyone.
Chris has been headed to a group home or prison since his parents decided not to put him in a school with autistic children. He never got to understand his own condition and his own pathology. Instead he insists that he has been mainstreamed and uses symptoms to explain his poor behavior. He has no autistic success models and no autistic comrades to understand and inform him about his unique subjectivity. There is almost no help besides an intense psychotherapy regiment or a group home.
In short, its kinda like poking a rabid possum in the bottom of a garbage can till animal control arrives. Its probably best you don't let it go outside of the can and its probably best you keep an eye on it. Its not getting better by poking it, and someone else is gonna take care of it eventually, but eh, maybe the angry possum gets to live longer
There are limits to that. Bluespike was awful, the Manchester scam was pretty awful as well. But something like liquid or whatever isn't going to do too much harm to him in the long run. I want to see him get better too. Chris able to laugh about this the way tommy wiesau can laugh about making something as bad as the room would be wonderful
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Sorry I didn't mean to seem off topic. I was referring to an earlier post I made which was similar to what Ragtime Roast Beefy said. I was using current events as an example to support my claims that he was in fact a danger to other people and that when being trolled that danger was diverted to people who were aware of the situation and were able to keep it in a controlled environment. I hope that clarifies things. I don't' want to come across as some kind of attention seeking troublemaker or anything :-).
I also want to clarify that I am not in any way placing blame on any of the trolls. Had it not been them then someone else would have eventually jumped at the chance to fill that position. I feel like with most of the trolls (with the exception of Bluespike) most of them were fairly organized and knew how to keep it entertaining without taking it too far.
I also want to clarify that I am not in any way placing blame on any of the trolls. Had it not been them then someone else would have eventually jumped at the chance to fill that position. I feel like with most of the trolls (with the exception of Bluespike) most of them were fairly organized and knew how to keep it entertaining without taking it too far.
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I think there is a lot of merit to the point that the "worst" things that happened to Chris have very little to do with trolls. His suspension from school, his epic period of unemployment, his house burning down, his multiple arrests. All of those are some combination of his fault and bad luck. (A lot of luck for the fire, his fault for the rest).
Basically that means you can say "he has been trolled a lot", and "he has had an awful life" but there isn't much of a causal relationship between those two things.
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Oh I'm in agreement with that. I actually started posting on this thread because I felt that quite a few people were starting to have this mentality that if the trolls somehow just disappeared that Chris's life would be a lot better off. I understand some of their sentiments because yes he seems drained in these latest videos but I personally don't believe that if left to his own devices that he would shape up on his own. My initial thought was that if he was left alone, that he would in fact become dangerous and even potentially violent. The reason for the post before the one you quoted was actually just me asking if people still felt the same way after this recent event. Granted I really could have chosen a better way to convey that. Looking back it seemed like a childish retort.
That being said I'm definitely not claiming to be some kind of noble scause wearing Sarah Mclaughlin ad for Chris. I am here for the same reason most are and that's for entertainment. I just felt like being a part of the discussion is all :-)
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Chris definitely needs help. He needs help from people who are qualified, accountable, honest and supported by a network of similar people. Social services or mental health services will hopefully meet all these criteria. Trolls, no matter how dedicated or well-meaning, will never meet any of these criteria.
Trying to create personas to direct Chris toward what you think is good for him would be like trying to address his diet by tricking him into taking nutritional supplements.
Trying to create personas to direct Chris toward what you think is good for him would be like trying to address his diet by tricking him into taking nutritional supplements.
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And unless he actually wants to improve himself all the help in the world will be as helpful as the trolls have been.
There are two ways to get Chris to do things:
1) The possibility of china
2) Force Chris by using negative consequences. Constantly.
I don't think either option is something a professional will consider.
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As much fun and laughs as Chris provides, I also hope that this story ends and that Chris finds some happiness. I would be happy if Chris ended up in group sessions with other individuals that struggle socially. I would hope that Chris would find that he has a lot in common with those people and that maybe he would not feel so alone. Maybe he could move into low income housing or a YMCA and find a job.
I'm sure an expert like yourself knows exactly what a professional will consider to be helpful to Chris.
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Chris has been motivated to change when either sex or immediate negative consequences are the options. Wait, forgot one, money.
So china, cash or an immediate threat are the only things that have caused Chris to reconsider (however briefly) his actions. Christory bears those facts out.
You seem to take it personally or become hostile whenever people mention that Chris isn't headed for a happy ending or when somebody points out how much of an ass Chris can be. Might I suggest my friend that you take a step back from the internets and calm yourself down. After all, no reason for anybody to become angry over a lolcows antics you know?
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I love how this thread's hardly seen any discussion since we found out about our hero jailing himself. I think a lot of misgivings that some people had are probably gone now.
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Let's say you have a man who is hungry (truly hungry, not superficially hungry but not starving either). A man walks up and offers a single meal of unhealthy, greasy fast food. Another man offers a healthier series of meals, but the hungry man must first perform for him - dance a silly jig, or stand on his head, before receiving each meal. Is either option better or worse than no option to eat at all?
To me, Chris is this hungry man, and the trolls are either offering the emotional equivalent of fast food, "perform for your supper", or both. I would argue that either is better than leaving Chris "hungry" (alone, lonely and desperate for affection).
To me, Chris is this hungry man, and the trolls are either offering the emotional equivalent of fast food, "perform for your supper", or both. I would argue that either is better than leaving Chris "hungry" (alone, lonely and desperate for affection).
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TBH I don't see Chris having a great ending, he's an ass and a bigot, that's what makes him so funny and also so tragic. I'm not angry about anything in particular. People A-Log way too often and I just enjoy pointing it out.
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b-buh buh
now that chris has maced some guy he's hiterally litler and must be stopped from wreaking havoc on the poor citizens of cwcvi- i mean ruckersville
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Frustration aside, I agree with this. I don't want to see nobody else involved when Chris finally snaps...
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Not really what I was getting at. My point was that trolls cannot help Chris, not whether Chris would engage with professionals. I assume though from your argument that you agree that "helpful" trolling is pointless?
Furthermore, even if there were no possibility Chris would benefit from either method, professional help
Have you considered that a qualified professional might have access to other options that an assortment of internet trolls have not considered or had access to?
Also - is it possible that your armchair diagnosis of Chris might in some places be inaccurate?
I can't speak for anyone else, but to me his recent behaviour is almost entirely unrelated to the rights and wrongs of trying to help Chris via trollsonas, or enrolling him in a social experiement without his knowledge.
Both options are bad if they prevent the hungry man from finding a reliable source of good food. Chris's interactions with trolls come with a big opportunity cost - while he is being led along by people pretending to meet his dream sweetheart criteria, he is not learning from experience that the things he is doing will not translate to the real world, not being forced through real experience to alter his ridiculous standards and behaviours.
Also - if a man is genuinely hungry, what does it say about anyone who would make him dance or otherwise humiliate himself for food?
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Recent events just underscore that fact that Chris trolls himself harder than anyone, and produces the best content in his own. Guy's gonna be in jail soon enough, right now seems like a crappy time to troll him.