Carl Benjamin / Sargon of Akkad / Akkad Daily / The Thinkery / @not_sargon / @WarPlanPurple - Leader of the "Liberalists" & Droning Pseudo-Intellectual Boomer anti-SJW Activist, Applebees Waiter, Mass Shooter Whiteknight

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It's literally everyone. I was at my local Wal-Mart a few hours ago and some faggot with a camo hat and a mullet was laughing his ass off about Sargon.
It is funny though...but laughing at or with him?
Sticking his finger in the eye of the media, is a good chuckle.

Politically, it may work for or against him. Depends how much people prefer to be lied to.
 
Who is 'everyone'? Kiwi farms? The few that are actively trying to run him down for not following their narrative/script ?

Everyone who isn't one of his fans. I suppose I should've clarified that.

It is funny though...but laughing at or with him?
Sticking his finger in the eye of the media, is a good chuckle.

At him. Like a bunch of white niggers.
 
It is funny though...but laughing at or with him?
Sticking his finger in the eye of the media, is a good chuckle.

Politically, it may work for or against him. Depends how much people prefer to be lied to.
You're thinking along the right lines. It's foolish to assume that Carl is retarded so Carl can't make any progress in this endeavor.

I don't know which page it was on, but I believe that if feminist groups start to protest Carl, it could make him a plausible candidate. Sargon's opponents could snatch defeat from the jaws of victory as easily as the man himself could.
 
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Is it me or did Dankula look positively embarrassed to be there?
there was a footage of Dankula facepalming during the UKIP conference, it was like "Carl, can you stop sperging for a fucking minute?"

i do actually think though that dank has better chances than sargon, since he doesn't spergout every single minute. shame that sargon is promoted more than dank
 
Who is 'everyone'? Kiwi farms? The few that are actively trying to run him down for not following their narrative/script ?
It is funny though...but laughing at or with him?

Serious question; when has Carl ever come off as charming, intelligent, or convincing outside of his own videos on his own channel? The Rogan appearance was widely considered "not great" at best and a garbage fire at worse. Every debate he's in, he's generally considered the loser and that's from anywhere from white nationalist Richard Spencer to feminist Winters. You're responding like there's not a history of him constantly fucking up and embarrassing himself when he's required to actually respond in real time to someone, like everyone just wants him to fail and is saying he will without any reason for it.

Sure, he might outwit the biased media with his Devil may care attitude and sharp wit. He also might fuck up spectacularly due to ego, a bad temper, and all around lack of mental composure. But which one of those does he have a longer history of doing?
 
Serious question; when has Carl ever come off as charming, intelligent, or convincing outside of his own videos on his own channel? The Rogan appearance was widely considered "not great" at best and a garbage fire at worse. Every debate he's in, he's generally considered the loser and that's from anywhere from white nationalist Richard Spencer to feminist Winters. You're responding like there's not a history of him constantly fucking up and embarrassing himself when he's required to actually respond in real time to someone, like everyone just wants him to fail and is saying he will without any reason for it.

You left out the Carl vs Jim and Ralph shitshow.
 
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Serious question; when has Carl ever come off as charming, intelligent, or convincing outside of his own videos on his own channel? The Rogan appearance was widely considered "not great" at best and a garbage fire at worse. Every debate he's in, he's generally considered the loser and that's from anywhere from white nationalist Richard Spencer to feminist Winters. You're responding like there's not a history of him constantly fucking up and embarrassing himself when he's required to actually respond in real time to someone, like everyone just wants him to fail and is saying he will without any reason for it.

Sure, he might outwit the biased media with his Devil may care attitude and sharp wit. He also might fuck up spectacularly due to ego, a bad temper, and all around lack of mental composure. But which one of those does he have a longer history of doing?
Fair points. Seems he is getting his sea legs under him. His videos are not quite the same scenario as being live with a crowd in a moment he was not entirely prepared for. Not that I disagree with his response to the reporter either.

If he can stop laughing at the state of politics and pretend to take it seriously, he might be able to win over some of the stuffed shirts.
 
You're thinking along the right lines. It's foolish to assume that Carl is exceptional so Carl can't make any progress in this endeavor.

I don't know which page it was on, but I believe that if feminist groups start to protest Carl, it could make him a plausible candidate. Sargon's opponents could snatch defeat from the jaws of victory as easily as the man himself could.

That's true, any sort of organised effort against him is only going to help him solidify his points. He's even mentioned that he's "sure" antifa are going to show up to one of his rallies in Bristol, which sounded like an open invitation really.

That said, Jess Philips isn't going to organize anything. The threat she made on her twitter was so empty, you could hear it's echo. Who makes an implied threat with a "I might just."

Serious question; when has Carl ever come off as charming, intelligent, or convincing outside of his own videos on his own channel? The Rogan appearance was widely considered "not great" at best and a garbage fire at worse. Every debate he's in, he's generally considered the loser and that's from anywhere from white nationalist Richard Spencer to feminist Winters. You're responding like there's not a history of him constantly fucking up and embarrassing himself when he's required to actually respond in real time to someone, like everyone just wants him to fail and is saying he will without any reason for it.

Sure, he might outwit the biased media with his Devil may care attitude and sharp wit. He also might fuck up spectacularly due to ego, a bad temper, and all around lack of mental composure. But which one of those does he have a longer history of doing?

Carl isn't necessarily going to come off as any of those things. What he has to his advantage at this point is that he has an audience, and he has stood for the position. He doesn't necessarily have to be able to charm the pants of the voters, very few politicians ever have a personality that lends themselves to politics, they're just active in politics and therefore get the nomination.

Also to be serious here, the thing that will likely work in Carl's advantage is the fact that there aren't going to be that many debates taking place. The reason I'm saying this is because debates traditionally aren't really a part of the EU election cycle, as much as they are a part of the parliamentary cycle, and even in those instances that there are debates, it is up to the whim of the press to invite particular parties to take part in cross talks, or debates if they are hosted.

The biggest thing Carl is probably going to have to put up with, if he does get invited to them is question time style Q&A's which will be interesting to see how he performs under questions from the carefully selected adversarial activists in the audiences that the BBC often loves to provide.



Dank is going to be an interesting candidate. He honestly is the better choice between the two in the fact that he actually has been on the receiving end of an overbearing power of the state, and had his reputation ruined by them and the press as a result, so realistically he has a really strong argument against state censorship, where as Carl has been kicked off twitter and patreon.
 
But it makes more sense to the 'enlightened' and woke in British politics to turn a blind eye to teaching that little 8 year old boys can a get period too? Is that 'multiculturalism', 'tolerance' or plain stupidity ? Pandering to which agenda in the name of 'politics.' Where is the gain to the population? Normalizing this idiocy in the education system, when you already have rape gangs running rampant and only Tommy was the one brave enough to makeit public? But, what happnened then? He was shut down with bogus charges.

The problem is that the UK has serious and indeed possibly terminal sickness and having adding Carl to the side trying to stop or at least slow the decline is not helpful to that side. In fact I suspect it's pretty helpful to the other side if they can just keep asking him about rape tweets and white niggers until he chimps out.

Sargon's completely obsessed with war metaphors, being a neckbeard who educated himself by playing "Age of Empire". He always reminds me of Mark from Peep Show, somehow crossed with an inexplicably stupider version of David Brent.

He's basically a mix of David Brent and Gareth Keenan

https://twitter.com/_GarethKeenan/status/483870999990247424

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Gareth was the Territorial Army guy who referred to himself as 'Assistant Regional Manager' when he was 'Assistant to the Regional Manager'

Serious question; when has Carl ever come off as charming, intelligent, or convincing outside of his own videos on his own channel? The Rogan appearance was widely considered "not great" at best and a garbage fire at worse. Every debate he's in, he's generally considered the loser and that's from anywhere from white nationalist Richard Spencer to feminist Winters. You're responding like there's not a history of him constantly fucking up and embarrassing himself when he's required to actually respond in real time to someone, like everyone just wants him to fail and is saying he will without any reason for it.

I thought he did OK in the debate when it was him and Nick Fuentes vs Destiny and Hasanabi


Mainly because Nick Fuentes is a cringey ethonnationalist type, Hasanabi is a commie. Destiny is a commie. Destiny is also Destiny and unless he can do his trick of advocating for incest and then when someone says 'Eww, fucking gross dude!' he leans in to the microphone and says 'Are you triggered my dude?' he's not all that good at debate.

Carl positioned himself as the Big Brained Centrist Alternative to the nutty extremists.

Basically he was the least exceptional individual in that debate and it worked out for him.

The biggest thing Carl is probably going to have to put up with, if he does get invited to them is question time style Q&A's which will be interesting to see how he performs under questions from the carefully selected adversarial activists in the audiences that the BBC often loves to provide.

Much as I despise the BBC they're honestly not wrong to do this to politicians. The problem I have with them is that they do it to politicians they disagree with and then give ones they agree with a few softball questions.
 
That's a pretty exceptional take. "They're going to go after you anyway so go ahead and apologize" is capitulation without any reward, and with nothing but a loss as his viewers will only see it as him acting spineless and cucking to the people that they hate. They'd be right for thinking so, too tbh.

As far as "the time you take talking about it" goes, what exactly do you mean? The guy has nothing but time at this point since he has a load of paypigs and no reason at present to worry about getting an actual job, and when it comes to whether or not it's a hill worth dying on you have to remember he's doing this for his paypigs. Of course it's a hill worth dying on if it means he's still getting injections of sweet, sweet NEETbux.
I should clarify a bit, he should do what @instythot said which is a non-apology. Its hard to pin that as cucking unless you're really autistic and it denies some oxygen for the media who have instead "She is a massive bitch" to work with. Essentially the gain you get from it is being able to better take control of your own narrative.

Also Carl's audience are massive fucking nut huggers, he could piss on their shoes and they'd probably apologize for being in his way. He could spin the non-apology just fine to his audience.

He should not proselytize himself in front of the media though, that is absolutely the worst thing he could do.

I'll also explain time thing, because I'm talking about his campaigning. He has a little over a month to campaign for this seat in a frankly dying party with limited resources and a shit public image. If he's genuinely serious about winning, he needs to not be going for the trigger the libs approach because that does not have a broad enough appeal to get him a win. He needs to emphasize policy more than anything else and work on his image. Or put more simply, stop getting into slap fights and stunts with the media when you have shit to do.

A counter argument might be that this is his way of establishing his public image, but realistically the only people who are going to read about this and like him are people already in his corner. And the people who don't know about him are mostly going to think less of him because of his dumbassery.

I thought he did OK in the debate when it was him and Nick Fuentes vs Destiny and Hasanabi
Only relative to the other morons. He had some really exceptional shit that he said and the race realism shit is probably a really dumb idea to run with on a big stream right before your campaign starts.
 
I'll also explain time thing, because I'm talking about his campaigning. He has a little over a month to campaign for this seat in a frankly dying party with limited resources and a shit public image. If he's genuinely serious about winning, he needs to not be going for the trigger the libs approach because that does not have a broad enough appeal to get him a win. He needs to emphasize policy more than anything else and work on his image. Or put more simply, stop getting into slap fights and stunts with the media when you have shit to do.

This is the guy who thought it was a good idea to provoke Metokur with his suit comments. Even the fucking furries know that's poking a hornets' nest.

Only relative to the other morons. He had some really exceptional shit that he said and the race realism shit is probably a really dumb idea to run with on a big stream right before your campaign starts.

Oh I dunno. If he's accused of race realism/ethnonationalism he can always say 'No I oppose right identity politics just like I oppose left identity politics. Go check out my debate with Fuentes, Destiny and Hasanabi' secure in the knowledge the only people willing to sit through four hours of that shit are his fan club and the obsessive chroniclers of Internet exceptionality at The Farms.
 
Carl needs to go all out and be outrageous. As a serious politician, he's not going to cut the mustard, but as a provocateur, he's got more grassroots appeal to him than someone like Nigel Farrage.

Carl needs to be the UK Pauline Hanson.
Being blunt, obvious and off the cuff would serve the cause of mobilising the downtrodden underclass.
It won't make him PM, but it will get him clicky clicks and average Joe's interested in his ideas.
Shame it's Don Sargone, who will act like a youtube academic irl and totally fuck this up.

I will enjoy the fact that most normal people looking him up will become acquainted with the "Carl of Applebees" Suit Saga regardless.
 
Understand your meaning, however, it is politics that has created the current mess to begin with. From my POV, politics is not much more than ass kissing and public ego stroking. Much mincing about and flouncing to woo voters, but nothing of any real substance changes.

The populace of which the vast majority are not "elites" and whom are the back bone of the country, have been lied to for years. The government is elected to Serve the People. Not the other way around.

""YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I DID THE THING YOU'VE ALL ACCUSED ME OF, AND I DID IT BECAUSE FUCK YOU!". That ain't spin. That ain't a play. It's just an outburst. "

No. Incorrect context. They tried to back him into a corner with a statement so utterly stupid and out of context, and he stated that with a few cherries on top.

There's some valid points. The big thing missing is that this was a specific corner that literally everyone knew they'd try to back him into and how does Carl react? Throws a tantrum like an only child in a toy store
 
Carl needs to go all out and be outrageous. As a serious politician, he's not going to cut the mustard, but as a provocateur, he's got more grassroots appeal to him than someone like Nigel Farrage.

Carl needs to be the UK Pauline Hanson.
Being blunt, obvious and off the cuff would serve the cause of mobilising the downtrodden underclass.
It won't make him PM, but it will get him clicky clicks and average Joe's interested in his ideas.
Shame it's Don Sargone, who will act like a youtube academic irl and totally fuck this up.

I will enjoy the fact that most normal people looking him up will become acquainted with the "Carl of Applebees" Suit Saga regardless.
Pauline Hanson is a dumb bogan. While her party has some pretty okay policies I do like, it's essentially a bag of contradictions.
Ban halal but not kosher.
"Chinks are buying our property" to "too many mudslimes", both valid but where's the noise about Chinese? It's gone.

She also argued against taking foreign donations whilst this year taking them herself. It sucks that the dichotomy can't be broken but don't argue against it if it does no fucking good. Let's not mention the name of the party "Pauline Hanson's One Nation" rather than just One Nation, gotta get her name in there somehow. I agree with that party on many issues but the Jew licking and goal shifting breaks it. Also she just sucks at debating.

If anything, Sargon needs to avoid being anyone and just be unapologetic, loopy, and confronting. Getting the opponent to screech rather than himself is a better shitshow for everyone, and good for his political career.
 
That's true, any sort of organised effort against him is only going to help him solidify his points. He's even mentioned that he's "sure" antifa are going to show up to one of his rallies in Bristol, which sounded like an open invitation really.

That said, Jess Philips isn't going to organize anything. The threat she made on her twitter was so empty, you could hear it's echo. Who makes an implied threat with a "I might just."
She doesn't have to do too much of anything, just point a finger and yell something ridiculous. The new age feminists aren't the brightest bulbs.


Carl isn't necessarily going to come off as any of those things. What he has to his advantage at this point is that he has an audience, and he has stood for the position. He doesn't necessarily have to be able to charm the pants of the voters, very few politicians ever have a personality that lends themselves to politics, they're just active in politics and therefore get the nomination.
He has an audience, which the current "think tank" will do anything to de-platform him. He manages to have an audience simply because he states his views? Or because he may be stating some obvious facts which are uncomfortable for the current political climate to speak to, which they don't and won't in order to promote their own agendas.

Also to be serious here, the thing that will likely work in Carl's advantage is the fact that there aren't going to be that many debates taking place. The reason I'm saying this is because debates traditionally aren't really a part of the EU election cycle, as much as they are a part of the parliamentary cycle, and even in those instances that there are debates, it is up to the whim of the press to invite particular parties to take part in cross talks, or debates if they are hosted.
Which works in his favor. He can continue to discuss his ideas via youtube.

The biggest thing Carl is probably going to have to put up with, if he does get invited to them is question time style Q&A's which will be interesting to see how he performs under questions from the carefully selected adversarial activists in the audiences that the BBC often loves to provide.
He will need to be prepared for the heckling and the incoherent which work to destabilize reality and take hold of the narrative.


Dank is going to be an interesting candidate. He honestly is the better choice between the two in the fact that he actually has been on the receiving end of an overbearing power of the state, and had his reputation ruined by them and the press as a result, so realistically he has a really strong argument against state censorship, where as Carl has been kicked off twitter and patreon.
They are equally interesting for different reasons, and in both cases, it is some flully interpertation of "Hate, Speech."
The problem is that the UK has serious and indeed possibly terminal sickness and having adding Carl to the side trying to stop or at least slow the decline is not helpful to that side. In fact I suspect it's pretty helpful to the other side if they can just keep asking him about rape tweets and white niggers until he chimps out.
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Much as I despise the BBC they're honestly not wrong to do this to politicians. The problem I have with them is that they do it to politicians they disagree with and then give ones they agree with a few softball questions.
The UK is sliding straight down the slope of cultural suicide while virtue signaling the genius of their moral sacrifice for the greater good of what exactly? The Brits are not benefiting. The "population terror" was and is a stupid reason and clearly is a fail if the reason it was insitituted was to shore up NHI and pensions.

Carl is on point, until he starts firing off his gob, and even then, he is correct but it ruffles feathers. Fortunately, the middle class is less miffed by ruffled feathers.

The BBC is a whore to the current Marxist regime.
 
The BBC is a whore to the current Marxist regime.

I bet they'd change their tune if the mandatory licence fee was replaced by a set of voluntary subscription packages. Then they'd have to make programs that appealed to everyone rather than ones middle class metropolitan leftists like and everyone else despises.
 
there was a footage of Dankula facepalming during the UKIP conference, it was like "Carl, can you stop sperging for a fucking minute?"

i do actually think though that dank has better chances than sargon, since he doesn't spergout every single minute. shame that sargon is promoted more than dank
I was going to say something like the only think Dank has against him is that he often drunkpost too much, but then I remembered he's running for Scotland.

Which works in his favor. He can continue to discuss his ideas via youtube.

I know we often laugh at youtubers whose fame goes to quick to their heads, but we don't think much of their normie audience. About three months ago I was in Bolivia, and even though not many people have internet, there was this guy in the bus watching some political video there in his cellphone. And just check the comments of most Latin American political youtubers: you can see "redpilled" people there talking against Marxism, Globalists, Soros, and similar things we heard from the Skeptics™.

We can say the Skeptics™ are nothing but spergs who feed on drama and we wouldn't be wrong. But many things they've said are also truth and have really made an impact on people. I know friends from S. America who know Sargon and the things he has said, but they are completely unaware of the drama that surrounds them. Say, I can assure you at least one person has seen a video by Kraut, but has no idea about the whole drama he got himself into. They really don't care. And if anybody is thinking about voting Carl, they won't care either. Never underestimate normies. And normies are more aware than we give them credit for.
 
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I know we often laugh at youtubers whose fame goes to quick to their heads, but we don't think much of their normie audience. About three months ago I was in Bolivia, and even though not many people have internet, there was this guy in the bus watching some political video there in his cellphone. And just check the comments of most Latin American political youtubers: you can see "redpilled" people there talking against Marxism, Globalists, Soros, and similar things we heard from the Skeptics™.
That is precisely the point.
We can say the Skeptics™ are nothing but spergs who feed on drama and we wouldn't be wrong. But many things they've said are also truth and have really made an impact on people. I know friends from S. America who know Sargon and the things he has said, but they are completely unaware of the drama that surrounds them. Say, I can assure you at least one person has seen a video by Kraut, but has no idea about the whole drama he got himself into. They really don't care. And if anybody is thinking about voting Carl, they won't care either. Never underestimate normies. And normies are more aware than we give them credit for.

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Some things speak loudly, even when it is a whisper.
 
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I was going to say something like the only think Dank has against him is that he often drunkpost too much, but then I remembered he's running for Scotland.

Let's look at the last Euro election results for Scotland.

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/unitedkingdom/en/european-elections/european_elections/results.html

Scotland
  1. Ian HUDGHTON (SNP)
  2. David MARTIN (Lab)
  3. Ian DUNCAN (Con)
  4. Alyn SMITH (SNP)
  5. Catherine STIHLER (Lab)
  6. David COBURN (UKIP)
That was in 2014 which was a good year for UKIP. UKIP got one MEP.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_...ited_Kingdom#Election_results_by_constituency

Now we know UKIP have announced the first two members on their list for each region

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/e...andidates-mep-who-standing-eu-vote-full-list/

Scotland

Ukip (2)

  • Donald MacKay
  • Janice MacKay
So that tells us that Dankula is not number one or two on the list. I suspect given UKIP's current polling and the fact that even in a very good year for UKIP they only got one MEP in Scotland Dankula is very likely not to be elected.

What about Carl?

South West

Ukip (2)
  • Lawrence Webb
  • Carl Benjamin
He's number 2 on the list. In the South West in 2014 UKIP did get two MEPs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_...ited_Kingdom#Election_results_by_constituency
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_...ited_Kingdom#Election_results_by_constituency

However that was when UKIP got 26.6% of the vote. Right now UKIP is more like 6-7% and Brexit has 27%. I.e. essentially UKIP's voters have sided with Farage's party. And so have the MEPs.

https://www.trtworld.com/europe/new-brexit-party-takes-lead-in-eu-poll-25994

Brexit Party 27%
Labour 22%
Conservative 15%
Lib Dem 9%
UKIP 7%
Change UK 6%
SNP 4%

How many seats would UKIP get with 6-7%? Well there's a precedent for that. In 1999 they got 6.7% of the vote and 3/87 or 3.4% of the seats.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_Independence_Party#European_Parliament_2

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Unfortunately it looks like UKIP will go from 24 seats to 3. Actually the total number of UK seats have been reduced by the EU because 'fuck UK!'. So if they get 3.4% of 73 seats that is 2.5. Of course the system is supposed to be proportional so they might get 7% of the seats or 5.

On the upside the Brexit party will do well, and the odds are that existing UKIP MEPs will simply defect to Brexit.

The UKIP people who are likely to get elected are the ones who are first on the list, and probably only two to five of those. It basically depends who they're running against. If there's a current UKIP MEP who is popular and defected to the Brexit party I think they won't be elected.

Batten's probably safe.

Disclaimer - this of course all assumes that UKIP get 6-7% uniformly across the country which is a bit of an oversimplification. Carl might luck out or his gonzo approach to politics might cause greater UKIP support in the South West sufficient for him to get elected. I mean people laughed at Donald Trump. However they also laughed at a lot of gonzo politicians who crashed and burned.

At least his Brexit party opposition isn't particularly strong

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_West_England_(European_Parliament_constituency)#Returned_members

William Dartmouth has resigned from UKIP, is standing as an independent and won't stand this time. Julia Reid will run for the Brexit party but is rather colourless. He's number two on the list of UKIP and based on 2014 numbers he might get in. It's just the current polling numbers do not look good for him.
 
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