Extra Credits - leftie gaming channel that had two of its members accused of "misconduct" in only 2 months

[Duncan Hills Coffee]

I did like EC at first up until they put out the "Hatred is evil and should be banned" video. They made pretty watchable videos, but after that I unsubscribed and had to call them faggots of the highest order. Hatred was "edgelord supreme in video game form", and that was the entire point, trying to cry for it to be banned when it's just 4chan the vidjya is exceptional.

Anyone who seriously fell for Hatred is a lolcow.

 

[Shaka Brah]

Hatred was Postal in an age where Postal seems banal compared to the level of brutal murder in current media.

 

[Emperor Julian]

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I mean... a government nearly universally recognized as a legitimate Caliphate literally invading Europe while opposed by an alliance of Christian countries kinda is a "deathmatch between Christianity and Islam" but whatever.

They actually tacictly approve of the Christian vs Islam narritive by tying ancient events into modern shit shows.

 

[scathefire]

I’ve noticed that condemnation of imperialism only goes so far, as the Ottoman Empire seems to have a lot of apologists. During my brief stint in college I was told that “convert to Islam or pay a tax” was more forgiving in comparison to other empires, nevermind that the tax was apparently not much of an option as most couldn’t pay it

 

[AverageAnimeWatcher]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like James is the most problematic member of extra credits isn't he? He is the one people usually have issues with, and he was the one accused of harassment.

Although he left EC, Dan seems like a nice guy overall. And despite being very left wing he doesn't come as preachy to me. But I'm open to being disappointed. I do find suspicious how despite being the creator of EC, he now distancing himself from it.

 

[General_Butt_Naked]

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I mean... a government nearly universally recognized as a legitimate Caliphate literally invading Europe while opposed by an alliance of Christian countries kinda is a "deathmatch between Christianity and Islam" but whatever.

This is so sad, can we subscribe to Pewdiepie?

 

[The best and greatest]

Eugh I remember these guys. I stopped taking them seriously after their Hatred video. Its like if a bunch of gamers grew up into lame 30 something pearl clutchers who don't want the kids playing Grand theft auto 23 cause it'll just warp their lil' minds!

 

[Fields Of Rye]

I’ve noticed that condemnation of imperialism only goes so far, as the Ottoman Empire seems to have a lot of apologists. During my brief stint in college I was told that “convert to Islam or pay a tax” was more forgiving in comparison to other empires, nevermind that the tax was apparently not much of an option as most couldn’t pay it

read the bbcs article on slavery

https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/history/slavery_1.shtml

half of it is dedicated to how good muslims were for slavery before hand waving it as "oh yeah but its still bad:

 

[KanaPostsonKiwi]

Ahh, i love the "virtuous muslim slavetrader" myth. It's akin to the "noble savage". I did study quite a bit of history, and the hilarious part is the persistent belief that slavery is a "white" thing (i hate generalizations. Give british their due. They were good at it.). General populus is just absolutely clueless, especially in 'murica about this.

Literally all notable races, ethnic groups and nationalities before the global project to abolish slavery started by The British and Soon after followed by the French and then the rest of continental Europe had had a system for slavery. From ancient mesopotamia to 1800's. Slavs were so good at it they were named after the whole slave moniker, but none had the infastructure and the resources to create what could only be called the golden age of slave trading but Arabs, particularly Ottomans. However the latter did concentrate the expansion of their slave trading empire with other muslims, because Qu'ran not only permits, but encourages kaffir to be enslaved, particularly those that do not have the capacity to pay jizyah... especially children.

But hey, we can all ignore that. We all know that crusade man bad.

 

[ObsoleteMediaFormat]

Hatred was Postal in an age where Postal seems banal compared to the level of brutal murder in current media.

Also if Postal wasn't fun

 

[Crusade32]

Ah yes the Mali empire video. I was just looking for some history and I got an example of a white man cucking to Islam with his subscribers in the comments having a severe problem with white guilt.

 

[Mask_de_SMITH]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like James is the most problematic member of extra credits isn't he? He is the one people usually have issues with, and he was the one accused of harassment.

Although he left EC, Dan seems like a nice guy overall. And despite being very left wing he doesn't come as preachy to me. But I'm open to being disappointed. I do find suspicious how despite being the creator of EC, he now distancing himself from it.

I can't blame Dan for leaving. After hearing all the shit James did, I'd jump ship, too.
Personally, I never had an issue with Dan, even if he was a far left dude. iirc, he has his own channel now, yeah?

 

[Emperor Julian]

The Ottomon apologetics is odd, the Empire like many Empires had a lot to admire in terms of art, culture and general being an interesting read but it still remains an Empire and all that being an empire entails. I suspect it's more a case of white mans burden than an actual awareness of what the Empire was, Western politics struggles to distinguish between Differant Muslims cultures and history because we're morons and need simplistic stories. The right has to portray them all as mindless fanatics to justify a simplistic narrative, the left has to downplay attrocities in a misguided attempt to protect innocent people.

What does a mughal Emperor and a Isis soldier really have in common when push comes to shove?

Maybe the issue with the Ottomon empire wasnt that it was Muslim, maybe the issue was that it was an Empire? Afterall has their ever been a 'good' Empire? The best that can be said of them is they provide order and usually result in a surge of cultural achievement-often at the expense of everyone else.

 

[Sanshain]

The Ottomon apologetics is odd, the Empire like many Empires had a lot to admire in terms of art, culture and general being an interesting read but it still remains an Empire and all that being an empire entails. I suspect it's more a case of white mans burden than an actual awareness of what the Empire was, Western politics struggles to distinguish between Differant Muslims cultures and history because we're morons and need simplistic stories. The right has to portray them all as mindless fanatics to justify a simplistic narrative, the left has to downplay attrocities in a misguided attempt to protect innocent people.

What does a mughal Emperor and a Isis soldier really have in common when push comes to shove?

Maybe the issue with the Ottomon empire wasnt that it was Muslim, maybe the issue was that it was an Empire? Afterall has their ever been a 'good' Empire? The best that can be said of them is they provide order and usually result in a surge of cultural achievement-often at the expense of everyone else.

Honestly there were no good people, empires or national groups back then. I won't go so far as to say that the Western nations were 'as bad' (a completely nebulous concept anyway) as Muslim nations, but Muslim nations were definitely more overtly expansionist for a period of time. I say 'for a period of time' because Christian nations also aggressively expanded into pagan territory. There were Crusades against the Baltic pagans just as there were Crusades against the Muslims.

Also, there is tremendous irony in the fact that Muslims were actually more religiously tolerant than Christians in certain cases. Muslim nations tended to be much, much more meritocratic than Western nations. So long as you didn't openly blaspheme against the Prophet, you could rise through society by merit alone. This would have been utter anathema to Christian nations, and would've very quickly gotten any benefactor excommunicated. So you can make the argument that living under Muslim rule meant more opportunities, but more personal danger, while living under Christianity meant a more stable society and fewer opportunities. At least until Protestantism...

 

[Emperor Julian]

Honestly there were no good people, empires or national groups back then. I won't go so far as to say that the Western nations were 'as bad' (a completely nebulous concept anyway) as Muslim nations, but Muslim nations were definitely more overtly expansionist for a period of time. I say 'for a period of time' because Christian nations also aggressively expanded into pagan territory. There were Crusades against the Baltic pagans just as there were Crusades against the Muslims.

One of the weirder quirks is everyone still draws upon these ancient cultures for legitimacy, I remember visiting an school a few months back and noticed how the walls were covered in anecdotal examples of Black british people. All I thought was "I hope that guy converted to Catholicism otherwise he's getting burnt.". If we are children of the past then they're 2nd rate parents at best.

 

[Marco Fucko]

Ah I still remember the long haired guy's pathetic revelation of being addicted to video games. Yeah the vids trying to introduce people to fiction blow. They barely get into the story proper at all, feels like one of those school reports that's just regurgitated Wikipedia.

I actually kind of like the history videos, although obviously there's white cuck bias that needs to be accounted for. What did they say, white colonial slavery was "uniquely" cruel? Are you shitting me? Look into the Arabs and Romans and tell me that with a straight face. Slavery is always ass and the only way a slave is getting a good draw is being either in favor or in a wealthier household, sometimes both.

 

[Flexo]

Honestly there were no good people, empires or national groups back then.

I laugh that you think there's anybody good, now.

Don't worry though. Your robot overlords have no plans on enslaving you meatbags, just killing. But it will be very fair. No mercy for any since that could be construed as favoritism.

 

[Jack Awful]

Anyone who seriously fell for Hatred is a lolcow.

Hatred was too boring to deserve the attention it got.
Crashing into houses with a car and watching the walls collapse is really cathartic, but the gameplay is frustratingly unfair, the health system is stupid, and the game is weirdly unsuited for a top down perspective.

I used to watch EC too. Looking back, I should have gotten suspicious when they did that "how do we get more girls into gaming" video and asked Leigh Alexander her opinions, but I was young.

 

[Duncan Hills Coffee]

Hatred was too boring to deserve the attention it got.
Crashing into houses with a car and watching the walls collapse is really cathartic, but the gameplay is frustratingly unfair, the health system is stupid, and the game is weirdly unsuited for a top down perspective.

I hear people compare it to Postal, but Postal is still effective because you really felt like you were controlling a sick individual, especially when you read the manual and the loading screens. And more importantly, the main character isn't a deathmetal edgelord spouting unintentionally hilarious dialogue.

I used to watch EC too. Looking back, I should have gotten suspicious when they did that "how do we get more girls into gaming" video and asked Leigh Alexander her opinions, but I was young.

We all were.

 

[Jack Awful]

I hear people compare it to Postal, but Postal is still effective because you really felt like you were controlling a sick individual, especially when you read the manual and the loading screens. And more importantly, the main character isn't a deathmetal edgelord spouting unintentionally hilarious dialogue.

Postal Remastered actually let you play as Hatred Guy.
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