Where does ‘homosexuality’ come from?

[Recoil]

Well we have to take into account that a wolf probably can't tell the difference between a hetero wolf and a gay or bisexual wolf. Their brains aren't quite as complex or complicated as ours.

They communicate all that shit silently with body language & smells.

 

[DDBCAE CBAADCBE]

They communicate all that shit silently with body language & smells.

Do you really think they can be that precise with body language and smells? I personally doubt it's quite as honed as people like to believe.

 

[Recoil]

Do you really think they can be that precise with body language and smells? I personally doubt it's quite as honed as people like to believe.

Yeah, absolutely. In a situation like this the submissive one pees a little right off the bat, they smell that. They say loads with their eyes and ears, too.

EDIT - Oh, God - diaperfurs. It's all starting to come together...

 

[DDBCAE CBAADCBE]

Yeah, absolutely. In a situation like this the submissive one pees a little right off the bat, they smell that. They say loads with their eyes and ears, too.

Pretty sure that's not how dog sex works.

 

[Recoil]

Pretty sure that's not how dog sex works.

I'm talking about dominance hierarchies and nonverbal communication, which figure into dog sex, but are not dog sex in and of themselves.
You best believe the pack alpha ain't gettin' mounted.

There's also plenty of homosexuality documented in all kinds of animals & they seem to be getting it on just fine.

 

[DDBCAE CBAADCBE]

I'm talking about dominance hierarchies and nonverbal communication, which figure into dog sex, but are not dog sex in and of themselves.

From what I've seen male dogs just generally try to fuck anything with a pulse regardless of sex. I mean I'm sure what you said plays into it on some level I honestly think you're giving them way more credit than they deserve.

 

[Recoil]

From what I've seen male dogs just generally try to fuck anything with a pulse regardless of sex. I mean I'm sure what you said plays into it on some level I honestly think you're giving them way more credit than they deserve.

I think we're both half right:
https://wolveswolves.tumblr.com/post/82202974001/i-used-to-work-as-a-park-ranger-during-the-summers

Hate to link to a tumblr but the writer does manage to back it up.

Spoiler: Relevant text

QUESTION: I used to work as a park ranger during the summers in a provincial park in Ontario, Canada. We kept track of the major packs in the area. We named them out of habit. One pack in specific, had a breeding pair, Clair and Derek. In one of the last summers I worked there, Clair was pregnant, but unfortunately, Derek had gotten very sick and passed away. Another female, Aria, had taken Derek's place. Is it common for homosexuality in wolves? Are "gay" couples or "lesbian" couples more common?

Asked by Anonymous

Displaying homosexual behavior is very common among wolves, Just like most animals, wolves have been observed engaging sexual behavior such as resembling mating behavior with a wolf of the same sex, sometimes even in preference for opposite sex when options were available. Male wolves often mount each other, but this is in a dominance displaying way. I don’t know whether gay wolves or lesbian wolves are more common.
We can’t tell whether a wolf is actually aware or not that there is a distinction between sexual attraction to it’s own sex and that to the other, but we do call wolves engaging in such behavior homosexual.
If you want, you can read some more about it in Joan Roughgarden’s book ‘Evolution’s rainbow: diversity, gender, and sexuality in nature and people’, and in addition to that, just by giving it a search online you’ll find lots of interesting stuff!
Also, in your case it depends on what you mean by “she had taken her place”. This is most likely an occurence that stands apart from Aria and Clair being homosexual or not. All wolves love pups and are “programmed” to protect and nurture them, and when one of the parents in a wolf pack dies, another adult member of the pack usually replaces the parent’s leading role. Whether this is a female or male wolf taking over Derek’s place, has nothing to do with their sexuality - unless Aria and Clair are exhibiting sexual behavior.

 

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There is nothing "socially healthy" about the behaviors that neo-Sodomite aberrosexuals produce. Aberrosexuals should not be marrying or adopting children. There is nothing "socially healthy" about contraception, oral and anal sodomy, masturbation, or any of the host of insane sexual vices that aberrosexuals engage in. If someone is engaging in behavior that is in profound contradiction with the Natural Law, then how can you call any subsequent actions by this person that are not a direct attempt to amend this behavior "socially healthy?" Social health starts with moral health, and moral health begins at the individual level through behavior modification and mediation. Aberrosexuals are not healthy, whether it be socially, mentally, spiritually, or even physically. An extremely disproportionate percentage of homosexual men contract HIV at a higher rate compared to all other demographics. Something about the behavior of aberrosexuals is inherently not "socially healthy" if this is the case.

You should be ashamed. You are lying about a group of people that are afflicted by their own vices and demons, and instead of discerning the truth behind their behavior, you instead spew platitudes about neo-Sodomite "marriage" and that these people should adopt children. Neo-Sodomite aberrosexuals are the last people on earth that should be entrusted with the care of children. I would sooner give an infant to a pack of wolves than two homosexuals, and do not think I am joking or being hyperbolic when I say this. I am completely serious. Neo-Sodomite aberrosexuals cannot even take care of their own bodies, let alone their souls. You seriously expect them to be even remotely adequate when it comes to raising a child? Ridiculous.

 

[DDBCAE CBAADCBE]

"We can’t tell whether a wolf is actually aware or not that there is a distinction between sexual attraction to it’s own sex and that to the other, but we do call wolves engaging in such behavior homosexual."

This made me laugh so hard. 'That wolf is a faggot!'.

But yeah I've actually enjoyed this conversation. It's refreshing to just talk to someone and not have it turn into a whole thing, y'know.

 

[Autopsy]

Child abuse, probably. CSA metrics are really shit, but reported incidence the gen pop sits pretty at around 6% while reported incidence within the LGB population is more like 30%. It is a consistent assertion that CSA is underreported in the general population, so you do the math. Either being gay makes you an uncle magnet or you've got yourself one hell of a "correlation".
That being said, I appreciate the dual-purpose has for this thread. Very nice.

 

[Y2K Baby]

They came from the three radiant pools of eternal gay: @Jon-Kacho, @Internet War Criminal, and @bearycool

 

[DDBCAE CBAADCBE]

I always tell people "I love gays but I hate faggots."

 

[RG 448]

it comes from the sexualization of the anus of males

 

[Clop]

Homosexuality comes from genetics when masculine and feminine traits criss-cross.

If you want to think being gay as being a choice then the troons are right. You do not want troons to be right on this.

 

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Gregory Cochran suggests that a major cause is likely to be one or more diseases, suggesting a virus is probably involved. He lays this out in a series of blogposts linked from the article below.

Greg Cochran’s "Gay Germ" Hypothesis – An Exercise in the Power of Germs

Updated, 10/17/15. See below! In this post, I will review Gregory Cochran’s “gay germ” hypothesis. I wanted to make an index of Cochran’s posts from his and Henry Harpending’s blog West Hunter that discuss it. These posts don’t seem to all show up under the “Homosexuality” category there, and I...

www.unz.com

To sum it up very very briefly- male homosexuality looks exactly like the sort of behaviour we expect from an infection, especially a viral one, perhaps fungal, bacterial, or otherwise.

Avoiding human reproduction to instead get barebacked by hundreds of guys with AIDS is something that takes a lot of explaining. It looks a lot like the behaviour of rats suffering from a toxoplasmosis attack. It also looks like a lot the other links between viruses and mental illness that have been identified. The selfish gene- in this case perhaps carried by RNA rather than DNA- cares only about the host that the gene itself rides along in, the infectious agent. It doesn't give a fuck about reducing its host's lifespan, or their fecundity.

What it does not resemble is any of the explanations that are politically correct and fundable, from epigenetics, to the absolutely ridiculous 'gay uncle' theory. Anyone suggesting the 'gay uncle' theory is even remotely plausible is clearly fucktarded. If I was a cave-dwelling sodomite (in the prehistoric era, as opposed to now), you had better believe I would not be spending my excess resources allowing my relatives to raise 3-4 more children than they might have otherwise. That meat would be kept back so I could relax more and bribe cavetwinks to give me a handy.

So why aren't more people aware of this, the most plausible explanation for the prevalence of homosexuality in 'civilized' societies such as ours? The reason is simple. If a study provides proof showing a link between something like a viral infection in early childhood and homosexuality, even if the disease is one that is carried in the general population and no more likely to be 'catching' from an adult homosexual than any other adult, there would be an orgy of violence as people throughout the third world executed homosexuals en masse. There is no possible way that any scientific funding body will risk being associated with a mass homocide.

Heck, even if the 'eat da poopoo' man could be prevented from learning about such a discovery, Pintrest would spread it throughout the world of white suburban moms who "don't have anything against gays, would be perfectly happy with a gay son, but just want him to be as happy as possible" within days. If there was not already a vaccine for the virus, one would be found, and the company that owned it would make a killing.

But.. at the same time, this would be strongly opposed by adult male homosexuals. This group generates a metric shitton of revenue for those same drug companies that would profit from the gay vaccine, from the umpteen AIDS drugs and all the associated conditions that the virus, and the antiretrovirals cause.

And they would also likely be in a similar position to the deaf people who oppose cochlear implants. Everyone loves children. Deaf people love deaf culture. They love deaf children signing in a cute fashion- reasonable enough. Likewise, male homosexuals love new twinks showing up at their standard fuck parties. Deaf people are a marginalised group but opposition to cochlear implants is a real movement. Would many homosexuals, a group known for having a greater disposable income than sexually well-adjusted people, not pull similar stunts?

Cochran has held several academic positions both within physics and anthropology departments, and is somewhat of a polymath. I invite people to fuck around and find out in his comments.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

Jung and Freud thought that homosexually was actually an over-identification with the female portion of the psyche.
LINK

 

[エリス]

1. Daddy leaves
2. Male affection is scarce
3. Scarce things are more valuable
4. Single mothers are overbearing
5. Female affection is overabundant
6. Overabundant things are less valuable

boom, ur gay

 

[Underestimated Nutria]

I can only speak for myself, but I know I starting looking at dudes when I was around fifteen or so, three years after getting into (and eventually bored by) ordinary porn. I stepped off the hedonic treadmill at that point, thank goodness, or God knows what I'd be jerking to these days.

Anyway I doubt the vast majority of Spartans or modern Afghan soldiers with their dancing boys all happen to have struck the lottery with same rare fag gene.

 

[Masta]

Gregory Cochran suggests that a major cause is likely to be one or more diseases, suggesting a virus is probably involved. He lays this out in a series of blogposts linked from the article below.

Greg Cochran’s "Gay Germ" Hypothesis – An Exercise in the Power of Germs

Updated, 10/17/15. See below! In this post, I will review Gregory Cochran’s “gay germ” hypothesis. I wanted to make an index of Cochran’s posts from his and Henry Harpending’s blog West Hunter that discuss it. These posts don’t seem to all show up under the “Homosexuality” category there, and I...

www.unz.com

To sum it up very very briefly- male homosexuality looks exactly like the sort of behaviour we expect from an infection, especially a viral one, perhaps fungal, bacterial, or otherwise.

Avoiding human reproduction to instead get barebacked by hundreds of guys with AIDS is something that takes a lot of explaining. It looks a lot like the behaviour of rats suffering from a toxoplasmosis attack. It also looks like a lot the other links between viruses and mental illness that have been identified. The selfish gene- in this case perhaps carried by RNA rather than DNA- cares only about the host that the gene itself rides along in, the infectious agent. It doesn't give a fuck about reducing its host's lifespan, or their fecundity.

What it does not resemble is any of the explanations that are politically correct and fundable, from epigenetics, to the absolutely ridiculous 'gay uncle' theory. Anyone suggesting the 'gay uncle' theory is even remotely plausible is clearly fucktarded. If I was a cave-dwelling sodomite (in the prehistoric era, as opposed to now), you had better believe I would not be spending my excess resources allowing my relatives to raise 3-4 more children than they might have otherwise. That meat would be kept back so I could relax more and bribe cavetwinks to give me a handy.

So why aren't more people aware of this, the most plausible explanation for the prevalence of homosexuality in 'civilized' societies such as ours? The reason is simple. If a study provides proof showing a link between something like a viral infection in early childhood and homosexuality, even if the disease is one that is carried in the general population and no more likely to be 'catching' from an adult homosexual than any other adult, there would be an orgy of violence as people throughout the third world executed homosexuals en masse. There is no possible way that any scientific funding body will risk being associated with a mass homocide.

Heck, even if the 'eat da poopoo' man could be prevented from learning about such a discovery, Pintrest would spread it throughout the world of white suburban moms who "don't have anything against gays, would be perfectly happy with a gay son, but just want him to be as happy as possible" within days. If there was not already a vaccine for the virus, one would be found, and the company that owned it would make a killing.

But.. at the same time, this would be strongly opposed by adult male homosexuals. This group generates a metric shitton of revenue for those same drug companies that would profit from the gay vaccine, from the umpteen AIDS drugs and all the associated conditions that the virus, and the antiretrovirals cause.

And they would also likely be in a similar position to the deaf people who oppose cochlear implants. Everyone loves children. Deaf people love deaf culture. They love deaf children signing in a cute fashion- reasonable enough. Likewise, male homosexuals love new twinks showing up at their standard fuck parties. Deaf people are a marginalised group but opposition to cochlear implants is a real movement. Would many homosexuals, a group known for having a greater disposable income than sexually well-adjusted people, not pull similar stunts?

Cochran has held several academic positions both within physics and anthropology departments, and is somewhat of a polymath. I invite people to fuck around and find out in his comments.

This is a very interesting concept, it’s the first time I’ve ever heard of homosexuals being related to a virus.

 

[Sprig of Parsley]

More inclined to think homosexuality or a notable tendency towards it is the result of in utero hormonal fuckery resulting from stress on the mother during pregnancy and/or some as-of-yet unknown quirk that tends to crop up in second, third, fourth etc. babies. That being said I think most gay folks are fairly harmless, though there are dipshits in every demographic.

(I was actually the first child if you don't count the abortion my mother had before me, but I came along pretty late. Don't recall my mother ever talking about any significant stressors during her pregnancy.)