Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

[ragonastick]

Honestly I didn't think anyone but me was going to care about Dani. I remember anons complaining about how boring she was on LCF, and my attempt to bring her up on IF was met with "omg she's trying to do better for herself she's in school and so what if she got a feeding tube?!"

Boyfriend exists as a human. Whether or not he cares about her is another thing entirely. I never met him and never saw him interact with her. She almost never talked about him unless you specifically brought something up related to your SO and she needed to flip the conversation back to herself. His name is Paul Liptak. He's a bartender at a trashy dive called Marz Bar. That's all I know about him.

Dani's annoying enough to get the few toys she has now. I don't think she can continue on this path. She burned her bridge with the only doctor who paid attention to her and gave her stuff, Dr. Parkman at Temple's Digestive Heath center. She burned bridges at St. Luke's at Warren by using their ER as a fun place to hang out on Saturday night (and dressing up like she was going out to dinner to go there. The doctors that ordered the tests that proved she's fine are both at St. Luke's Phillipsburg office - Jaffari is a rheumatologist and Mehta is a neurologist, and she's already been through their gastroenterology people which his how she got the referral to Temple. She's already burned through all the doctors around her hometown. She's going to keep being too obvious to convince anyone she's really sick. One glance by a doctor at her social media will see she fetishizes her tube. IF She makes it to Arizona, maybe maybe she'll be able to obfuscate her past antics enough to get a new toy but... I'm choosing to be optimistic that she's going to keep screaming into the void.

Spoiler: a history of Dani's behavior before lolcow

Sorry had to dig through my own journals, Dani's old facebook, and my partner's brain to get this info straight.

I've known her since around 2011/2012. At the time she actually had two jobs. She worked full time or close to it for the Just Born Confectionary Co. (the people who make Peeps) in their retail outlet and held another part-time job at St; Luke's Anderson hospital in Bethlehem, PA (I don't know if she ever told me what she did there, partner says she thinks it was janitorial/environmental services). On top of that she was in school for pharmacy tech and she actually got through it and got a job at Walgreens' pharmacy, I think also in Bethlehem. I asked my friend who is a manager there if he remembers her but he doesn't. I mean it's not med school but it was something that required her to get up, get dressed, sit through a class and absorb information. At one point she tried for nursing school as well, as far as I remember, but had to stop because she couldn't get through the math courses. Point is: She was annoying as fuck and dumb as a stump but she wasn't totally useless and she really did try to make something of herself. She also looked like the goddamned cryptkeeper. So when she constantly complained that she felt nauseous, weak, dizzy, when she fell down and broke her wrist, it all made sense. She had an eating disorder, was running herself into the ground with school and work, and she felt like shit. Cool, got it.

Then around early 2013 she checked into Renfrew clinic Philadelphia. She got out and was totally normal. Really. She went to her outpatient meetings. She worked, she talked about applying to better jobs. She went on a really prolonged social media break. Still totally full of herself and you couldn't hold a conversation but she was, yanno, being as normal as a stunted and genuinely stupid person can be expected to be and seemed happy. Then she relapsed with her ED and went to UPenn Med's Princeton ED center then to a private (?) clinic in Reno for a while. When she came back it was a 24 hour news cycle of munchie drama. This brings us to 2015-16 when she returned to social media and never. shut. up. again.

Random info; She was a smoker and drank a LOT of vodka with diet soda. She continued to smoke but I don't remember her drinking after she got back from ED treatment. She was a gymnast and later a competitive cheerleader in high school.

TL;DR: Dani was normal-ish with multiple jobs and an education as well as clearly anorexic, then slowly grew into her current form in the years I knew her.

Spoiler: absolutely massive pre-lolcow Dani private facebook dump

This bitch seriously updates her facebook 10-20 times in any given day so this is... extensive. Most of her updates are like, "netflix!" or "cleaning my apartment lol such a mess don't know how i'll get thru all this!" You aren't missing much.

The Princeton days
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She tried to claim to have a gluten allergy and be a vegan during this time because, yanno, ED specialists are too dumb to realize that's a way to restrict what you're forced to eat. Her next update was about how she lost her day pass privileges because her weight dropped.
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Then she went to Reno's Center for Hope in the Sierras, where the munchie antics truly began. For the most part it was still "I'm so bipolar, panic attacks, anxiety, flashbacks, dissociated, manic, depressed..." more than physical ailments.
(side note: she pulled her vegan/gluten free act there and they forced her to eat peanut butter sandwiches on GF bread all the time.)
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She started memorializing old injuries too
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Still mostly concerned with being the sickest widdle anorexic in the whole wide world
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Then she came home to New Jersey where she mostly cried about how hard it was to be home from her 6th inpatient, but also about her terrible health as a result of her chronic anorexia and sperged about her foot
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Jaquie'd up a toy (Cropped to remove innocent child)
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Then she started talking about fibromyalgia which she never claimed to have before along with other ailments.
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August 2015 she started pining for a PEG tube immediately after admitting she ate food she's allergic to
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Drug-seeking. "Chronic fatique syndrome" but also chronic insomnia
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Can't keep anything down; wants diet soda ??? Please note that most of these posts have 0 engagement. She's just screaming into the void. The intermittent "shares" were to a second facebook she had set up as a public account to e-beg and whine about how bad she felt or to her mom.
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Watched after school specials about eating disorders
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Starts doctor shopping because those mean doctors at St. Lukes won't give her morphine and a PEG
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more pining away for the days when she was actually sick
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And trying to prove she still is
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October 2 appointment did not go to her liking. She said nothing about it that day and posted two days later about how her new doc was also really stupid and she was so complicated she had to go to a specialist. No one was paying attention to her so she pretended to break her wrist again. Went to a different hospital over half an hour away and had a temper tantrum over those stupid doctors also not seeing how serious and special her case is. Only the brave X-ray tech has seen the truth of Dani's plight and diagnoses her with "abcess seizures"
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More doctor shopping, desperate to get tubed
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The famous DIY feeding tube incident. Yes, she really did this. Twice! TWICE! This was her first self-inserted NG. This one stuck around a few days while she continued to go to the ER and random doctors until one forced her to take it out. The next time she did it everyone told her to knock it the fuck off and she got embarrassed and took it out the same day.
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If you're going to claim you can't eat anything maybe crop the Wawa Hot 'n' Tasty to-go food cup out of the pic (Wawa is a convenience store/deli chain. That looks like the mashed potatoes. They're super, super buttery, not vegan, and about 900 calories for a large, which is what she has there.)
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Start of the Service Dog Saga. I don't have the texts of her asking me to train a dog for her. At first it was supposed to be just a pet to keep her company but then as soon as Harlow and Jaq got e-famous it turned to "I need a service dog!!!" She mentioned it intermittently for a year or two and started a GFM for a program dog. Comments during this era were 90% "omg yess a cute doggo!!" and 10% "if you have no money you should not have a dog."
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Goes to doctors with self-inserted NG tube. Doesn't understand why they keep telling her to get rid of it and fucking eat. The audacity of the doctor not pushing our delicate Dani back out of the hospital! Doesn't she understand this woman is dying?! She was claiming an inability to swallow as the reason she can't get nutrition.
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Cut herself, "broke her ankle" (never even swelled), and held her wee trying to get admitted to the hospital. Complained she couldn't drink smoothies because they got too "light and watery" for her to swallow. Was still drinking soda, tho. Really boring shit. Then she decided she had serotonin syndrome.
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But her real problem was acute lack of feeding tube. Her remaining ED recovery friends all abandoned her because she was triggering and she had a few tard meltdowns over it.
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Bonus: total lack of self-awareness
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That's all in 2015.

I have to do my actual work now but if I find time later and people are interested I'll comb through 2016. She is truly the gift that keeps on giving to munchie hunters.

Honestly this is the shit I'm here for. This is great. I had almost forgotten about Dani, glad to see she's still as crazy as ever.

The IF sub is dumb, acting like there's some noble cause to talking about otts/munchies. No. I just want to read and gossip about internet crazies. The best ones are often banned subjects on IF.

 

[janekop]

An article was published this morning in The Atlantic about Internet Munchies. While it mostly focuses on cancer fakers, it shows the damage munchies do to real sufferers and their communities.

The Internet Has a Cancer-Faking Problem
“Munchausen by internet” is rattling tight-knit online support groups.
RÓISÍN LANIGAN9:00 AM ET
When Stephany Angelacos was diagnosed with Stage 2 breast cancer in 2016, she immediately turned to the internet for support. Online, there are numerous groups and forums where people dealing with cancer can share their experiences. Angelacos researched her disease and its treatments, and then, inspired by how knowledgeable everyone was, decided to found her own invite-only breast-cancer Facebook group that same year.



Today, this group has grown to 1,700 members. About a third have a metastatic or terminal diagnosis. Others are family members or medical professionals who share advice. The members comfort one another, organize fundraisers, and coordinate visits to those who are alone at the end of their lives. Angelacos, who has now completed active treatment, oversees many of these efforts.
Over the past year, one of the group’s more active and popular members was Marissa Marchand. When she joined in 2017, according to group members, Marchand said she was a terminally ill, grieving single mom. She posted pictures of herself bald from chemotherapy and wearing an IV drip. She quickly became close to many women in the group, and received an outpouring of sympathy, money, and gifts—including expensive wigs—to help defray the costs of medical care and raising her family.


“She came across as genuine, loving, and funny,” says Angelacos. “No one questioned her authenticity, including me—and I usually have a pretty active BS radar.”
Marchand’s posts gradually became more extreme, the group’s members say. She wrote that her son was being bullied over her diagnosis, and that her dog had been shot. Then, in December, according to Angelacos, Marchand announced that she was out of treatment options. Her cancer had spread to all of her major organs. She didn’t have much time left to live. Soon, she stopped posting.
Angelacos assumed Marchand had become another tragic cancer statistic. But when Angelacos reached out to Marchand’s family to check in, she was shocked to learn that Marchand was alive—and apparently healthy.
Around the time Marchand stopped posting in the Facebook group, she was arrested in Colorado for faking terminal cancer on the crowdfunding platform GoFundMe and accepting donations through multiple accounts. It seemed she had faked her illness to the Facebook group, too. At trial, she pleaded guilty and was sentenced to community service. “The entire group was devastated, angry, and in a state of disbelief,” Angelacos says. “Everyone felt they had come to know her so well. There was a huge sense of betrayal.” (Marchand and her lawyer did not respond to requests for comment.)

This was not the first time many of the group’s members had felt this way. As harrowing as the experience can be for those involved, people in online cancer support groups are routinely outed as healthy. It’s difficult to speculate exactly how common this phenomenon is: There have been no large-scale scientific investigations into the internet’s cancer fakers, and the evidence is limited to only those who have actually been suspected or caught. But among the internet’s cancer communities, it’s an often acknowledged problem, albeit still a shocking one. Among 10 people from three groups I spoke with recently, every person recalled someone being outed for faking in their communities at least once, if not more.

Several recent high-profile cases have highlighted the issue. In 2015, the wellness blogger Belle Gibson confessed that she lied for years about a brain-cancer diagnosis. Last year, the then nanny Candace Ann Streng was sentenced to up to 15 years in prison after pretending to have terminal cancer and scamming $30,000 via a GoFundMe campaign. In February, a New Yorker profile accused the best-selling author Dan Mallory of faking brain tumors to colleagues several years ago. (Mallory claimed after the story was published that he’d feigned brain cancer to disguise struggles with bipolar disorder.)

This condition of faking illness online has a name: “Munchausen by internet,” or MBI. It’s a form of factitious disorder, the mental disorder formerly known as Munchausen syndrome, in which people feign illness or actually make themselves sick for sympathy and attention. According to Marc Feldman, the psychiatrist at the University of Alabama at Tuscaloosa who coined the term MBI back in 2000, people with the condition are often motivated to lie by a need to control the reactions of others, particularly if they feel out of control in their own lives. He believes that the veil of the internet makes MBI much more common among Americans than the 1 percent in hospitals who are estimated to have factitious disorder.


Dawn Branley-Bell, a psychologist at Northumbria University who studies extreme online behaviors, agrees that digital life can encourage deceptive behavior. “The internet makes it easier to portray ourselves as something we are not,” she says. “Trolls often justify their actions by saying the online world is not ‘real life,’ so it doesn’t matter what they do or say online. It is possible some users refuse to believe their [actions] online have real, psychological effects upon others.” Once the lie is told, she notes, it can be difficult to backtrack.

Those with factitious disorder can use a variety of techniques to induce actual sicknesses, including poisoning and planting fecal matter in IV drips. Online, though, people especially appear to feign cancer. I had my first run-in with MBI 15 years ago. On a Harry Potter forum, a girl who called herself Amanda claimed to be a 15-year-old American undergoing grueling treatment for leukemia. She posted about getting sick after visiting the hospital and feeling too tired to pick roses when gardening with her mother. As a nerdy, friendless preteen, I became attached to Amanda—until one of the forum’s administrators alerted the group that Amanda was in fact a healthy 35-year-old Australian mother.
Branley-Bell and Feldman both believe there are several reasons people with MBI might gravitate toward lying about cancer in particular. “[Cancer] is mentioned on an almost daily basis due to how commonly it occurs in our world, so people are familiar with the illness,” Branley-Bell says. The absence of early signs of the illness, the huge variation in life span, the possibility for reappearing bouts and remissions, and the fact that it can inflict anyone all make it a prime candidate for a faker.

“So few people would question an individual’s self-report of having it,” Feldman adds. Cancer is the bogeyman of the medical world; its victims are often seen as struggling more than anyone else. “Cancer is associated with heroism for the vigorous ‘battle’ waged against it by those afflicted,” Feldman says.
The decontextualized, often anonymous nature of the internet makes it extra difficult to know how many elaborate deceptions might still be playing out today. Even in cases such as Marchand’s, where an alleged faker uses his or her actual name—which presumably would lend itself to detection—the ethos of online cancer groups generally remains to take people’s word in good faith. The groups want to welcome those suffering and in search of a community with open arms, not with suspicion. Administrators usually act only when evidence has been presented by other members.
When a group believes it has identified a faker, its members often cross-post the findings of their sleuthing to other support groups that the accused faker has joined. Among real cancer survivors, sympathy for those with MBI tends to be in short supply. Angelacos, the founder of the Facebook group, considers people who lie about the disease “soulless manipulators”: “They’re missing the empathy chip that makes the rest of us truly human,” she says.




Becca Jean Munoz, a breast-cancer survivor from Texas who runs her own Facebook support group, agrees. “[Cancer survivors] suffer, emotionally, physically, financially,” she says. “It blows my mind that someone would fakethis disease for attention. It’s sick.” Munoz says that she recently removed a healthy woman who had been claiming across three online communities that she was in the ICU with sepsis and dying of cancer. “It really affects [a support group’s] members when a fraudster is uncovered,” she says. “We’re sharing really personal details of our lives here, and fakers make a mockery of things.”
The motivations of those who are caught faking cancers are rarely investigated on any deep level. In the case of Streng, the nanny, her attorney told the court that she suffered from depression and struggled to make friends. Jasmin Mistry, who was recently sentenced to four years in prison for collecting money for a fabricated brain-cancer treatment, told police when she was caught that she simply didn’t know why she’d done it, according to the BBC. In addition to Marchand, I reached out to Streng and other people who have been accused by their online communities of faking cancer. Streng didn’t respond; others also didn’t reply or declined to comment.

It’s possible MBI is simply incomprehensible to those who don’t have it. But it’s also painfully clear that cancer-support groups supply levels of attention and sympathy that are rarely found elsewhere. I know this from experience: In February last year, I was diagnosed with breast cancer. I was 26 at the time, and the odds of getting the disease at that age are about one in 1,700. I found solace in a 500-person Facebook community of mostly young women in the same situation. Support there was unconditional; there was always a place to vent, always somewhere to get sympathy, affection, and attention.
Cancer treatment was the hardest thing I have ever done, but it was also the time in my life when I had the most support. Friends and family offered to drop everything to be with me. If I missed a deadline at work, it was okay. If I forgot someone’s birthday, it was okay. If I lost my temper, it was okay.
Today, I’m almost completely back to normal. I completed chemotherapy in August, and finished the rest of active treatment at the end of the year. I still have to take drugs and my surgeon tells me I won’t be able to say I’m officially “cancer free” for five years, but the relief that comes from being better is the best thing I have ever felt. It’s bliss to do boring everyday tasks and go to work and be unexceptional and under the radar. But I’ll never forget how good it felt to be cared for.

 

[chronicallybullshitting]

Huge influx of newfags incoming.

r/illnessfakers has pissed off their entire subreddit with adding excessive rules. Deleting people’s posts without warning and clamping down on subjects being talked about.

Why? Because someone died...

Seriously, any mention of jaquie in that thread and you get your post deleted. I will do a full write up of each munchie in question & link their imgur documents from illness fakers below their names when I get chance, unless someone beats me to it.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

Are their any blogs or videos by “recovered munchies”? Not people who just stopped faking, but people who actually discuss their years of faking, why they did it, motivations, etc...

Self-awareness, accepting responsibility and intelligence seems very lacking among munchies so I don’t have much hope for finding such content. People who create endless personal drama in their lives are usually pretty dumb and munchies are squarely in that category.

These disorders don’t seem to have much success with psychological treatment or therapy. The absolute refusal to ever concede they are faking seems to be a roadblock that makes any recovery exceedingly difficult.

But, I’d be really interested to hear from a former munchie who has any insight into their past behavior.

The first munchie to write a book or do a YT series about faking illnesses for attention will get a hell of a lot more attention and interest than competing in the crowded field of the illness Olympics on SM. Could be like Betty Ford for munchies.

 

[suck my pickle]

Huge influx of newfags incoming.

r/illnessfakers has pissed off their entire subreddit with adding excessive rules. Deleting people’s posts without warning and clamping down on subjects being talked about.

Why? Because someone died...

Seriously, any mention of jaquie in that thread and you get your post deleted. I will do a full write up of each munchie in question & link their imgur documents from illness fakers below their names when I get chance, unless someone beats me to it.

there is talks of making a new sub. wonder if they can find a middle ground between the PC garbage over at IF and the boring conversations hosted by malingering.
the supposed new mods want more subjects approved and a less asspats - sounds promising but I’m not getting my hopes up.
edit - spelling

 

[AnOminous]

there is talks of making a new sub. wonder if they can find a middle ground between the PC garbage over at IF and the boring conversations hosted by malingering.
the supposed new mods want more subjects approved and a less asspats - sounds promising but I’m not getting my hopes up.
edit - spelling

Why the fuck would there be political correctness on a board about human freakshows like munchies? They should just kill themselves and shut the board down entirely if they don't have the fortitude to run it and just admit they like the freakshow.

 

[chronicallybullshitting]

there is talks of making a new sub. wonder if they can find a middle ground between the PC garbage over at IF and the boring conversations hosted by malingering.
the supposed new mods want more subjects approved and a less asspats - sounds promising but I’m not getting my hopes up.
edit - spelling

I completely agree with you, 3 things that NEED to happen with the new sub.
1. No blog posting. - like, seriously all the “oh well I have a feeding tube and THIS happens to ME” needs to stop.

2. Less of the whole “no longer discussing this person because of their mental state” bullshit.

3. More freedom on what you can post from their families facebooks / instagram accounts etc without doxxing (doxxing is against Reddit’s rules)

 

[latter day taint]

Are their any blogs or videos by “recovered munchies”? Not people who just stopped faking, but people who actually discuss their years of faking, why they did it, motivations, etc...

Self-awareness, accepting responsibility and intelligence seems very lacking among munchies so I don’t have much hope for finding such content. People who create endless personal drama in their lives are usually pretty dumb and munchies are squarely in that category.

These disorders don’t seem to have much success with psychological treatment or therapy. The absolute refusal to ever concede they are faking seems to be a roadblock that makes any recovery exceedingly difficult.

But, I’d be really interested to hear from a former munchie who has any insight into their past behavior.

The first munchie to write a book or do a YT series about faking illnesses for attention will get a hell of a lot more attention and interest than competing in the crowded field of the illness Olympics on SM. Could be like Betty Ford for munchies.

I think that if someone really wants to recover, this would likely be a bad idea. It would be trading one attention seeking behavior for another.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

I think that if someone really wants to recover, this would likely be a bad idea. It would be trading one attention seeking behavior for another.

Just based on my observation, when online munchies “recover” it goes one of three ways:

1) they DFE and wait for shit to die down; reappear once their past is down the memory hole. Now people have no proof of their larval stage so they look like they always have been sick. Ex: someone who documenting themselves harassing doctors until they got a fancy wheelchair for their super serious fibromyalgia reappears and claims to have a neuromuscular condition and to have been a wheelchair user their whole life.

2) they rebrand as “wellness coaches” so they can still talk about how they were so super sick but celery and kale juice, handfuls of dodgy supplements, and coffee enemas saved them

3) god forbid, they become low-level health care professionals like LPNs or move on to MbP. Suddenly their teenagers have chronic pain and fatigue and Brain on Fire disorder and EDS and narcolepsy and seizures and ...

And it seems like a lot are also trooning out which makes sense because it’s a socially acceptable way to be a super oppressed and special person and get lots of unneeded medical attention and surgery and asspats.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

I completely agree with you, 3 things that NEED to happen with the new sub.
1. No blog posting. - like, seriously all the “oh well I have a feeding tube and THIS happens to ME” needs to stop.

2. Less of the whole “no longer discussing this person because of their mental state” bullshit.

3. More freedom on what you can post from their families facebooks / instagram accounts etc without doxxing (doxxing is against Reddit’s rules)

the blogging is the worst. the good thing about this thread is that this isn't a whole community about munchies, it's just one thread, so people are here for other content too. even ignoring the powerleveling rule, the amount of people who post here who would have something to blog about is lower.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-48151355

Does anyone know more about the above?

I've spent all weekend reading through this whole thread. Very interesting to say the least. I read through some studies about how healthcare systems/ CPS deal with MBP to see if any of the earlier questions in the thread could be answered. The below is a study that gets updated every few years.
https://www.rcpch.ac.uk/sites/defau...A_Practical_Guide_for_Paediatricians_2009.pdf
TLR - In cases of suspected child abuse the numbers are high for MBP (highest number cited UK study 97/128 cases).
In the UK and Ireland anyway video recording is used in cases where MBP is suspected. The attached has an appendix of the different factors which would need to be met to use video recording.

Spoiler: International Doctor Shopping

Remember this girl? One from the earlier pages
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IfvftWEqrQ

She brought up the issue of not being able to doctor shop because the NHS is a national system. As it turns out this has not been a deterrent for munchies because there have been a number of cases where they travel between the UK and Ireland sometimes using fake ID's or feigning amnesia. I don't have figures for this but it's common enough to be mentioned in HSE (The Irish Health Service) sources for dealing with cases of MBP. (It's also quite common for Irish people to go to the UK for certain procedures which are not available in Ireland so the guidelines for both the HSE and NHS generally include both).

Perhaps Brexit will prevent some of this from happening but then again all EU citizens are entitled to healthcare from EU countries using an E111 card. I wonder are there munchies abusing this system in the same way and it hasn't been spotted yet.

Spoiler: Fake Service Dogs

This one had the malamute and a great pyrenees and also seems to have a history of short lived animals

Current name: Vincent Parizek
Other alises: Elise Parizek
Rhys Fox
<one that’s something weeby>

and I couldn't find the original page but there was a girl with a St. Bernard 'service dog', I find the choice of breed very suspect as although they are generally lovely gentle breeds they are hard to train to do anything other than the basics eg house training and sit etc. Giant dogs are in general big cuddly dopes. Also you would really have to mistreat a St Bernard for it to bite you so the story of the St Bernard biting a stranger is suspect in itself. I have a great pyrenees X St Bernard myself and she's as thick as two short planks. Literally nothing but fresh air between her ears. They are not made for that type of work at all.

There was also a woman mentioned early on in the thread who threatened to pepper spray anyone who looked at her 'service dog' for distracting it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D244b4E3yuA

Was it this girl? Anyway it started a big discussion about how service dogs are really well trained etc.

Short anecdote: I used to work in a shop and had a regular customer who was blind. Her guide dog absolutely loved chewing on those little squares that you put on the clothes hangers to easily show what size an item of clothing is. He used to randomly drag her into racks of shirts after spotting them on the floor. She used to laugh it off and apologised in case he ruined a display. I think a person reeeeing about their 'service dog' being distracted is a red flag too. I think more people react like my customer and have a sense of humor about things.

The dog communities on Facebook are full of that kind of nutter. All these high strung psychoceramic white girls with "service dogs" from an atypical breed, and delusions that everyone in public is fascinated with them and trying to sabotage them by "distracting" the dogs. And since they figured out that emotional support animals are sketchy to most people now, suddenly they all have "self-trained psychiatric service dogs" or "alert dogs" which will supposedly tell them their cortisol levels or whatever. They like to threaten to get confrontational or violent with people who pet their "life saving" dogs. It is a whole thing right now, apparently.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

Poor Dani, too precious and delicate for even sweet, organic Kate Farms! ...Which she used for three days after ordering a month supply and making a trilling instagram post @'ing them 100 times. Guess they didn't immediatly offer her Aubs-and-Jaquie levels of attention and praise.

Instead she'll have to use the lower calorie Vivonex mixed with water. Because nothing says "I have recovered from my eating disorder" like watering down your tube feed!

 

[latter day taint]

So Illnessfakers is having a complete meltdown. Some choice screen shots






And someone impersonating the top mod

 

[TwoFiftyTwoPM]

And then they deleted the post where they announced Analeise was banned, so everyone is twice as confused as to if she's banned. It's a beautiful shitshow over there right now.

 

[repentance]

Trying to clarify "goals", as if their sub has some noble purpose beyond gossiping about and shitting on (mod approved!) munchies.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

I think that if someone really wants to recover, this would likely be a bad idea. It would be trading one attention seeking behavior for another.

Well I’m not really interested in their recovery, but in their admitting and discussing faking illnesses and their personal motivations for doing so.

But meant it more as 2 or 3 blog posts or videos talking about their past and munchie behaviors. I think if any munchie has the fortitude to admit what they had done there would be wide interest in it. Think of all the coverage that IG brain cancer faker in Australia got when 60 minutes busted her ass. People are curious what drives women to do such things. It’s inconceivable to most ppl.

 

[Otterly]

Recovery would require some serious self examination and insight.

From the article linked below. “Recovery is considered so rare, it’s publishable in the medical literature and considered a medical anomaly worthy of attention.”

Addicted to illness: How one woman recovered from a 20 year struggle …

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What interests me as well is how she was able to obtain various diagnoses by mimicking symptoms. It shows you how subjective a lot of medical opinion is.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

Wow what a read. 100 different hospitals in seven years. Not hospitalizations. Hospitals. Our friends have nothing on this prolific human.

 

[China Rose]

I'm late to post this, but holy shit this bitch is crazy. Her IG is now on private though.

Yes, Christine was certainly quick to notice she was being talked about here, so it seems likely she's a lurker on this thread.


@Kate Farms Shill - thank you for your consistently excellent posts! The Dani updates are great. One thing that always weirded me out about her is that she always looks so dirty in her selfies, like her skin looks grimy - does she just not wash regularly?

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

Yes, Christine was certainly quick to notice she was being talked about here, so it seems likely she's a lurker on this thread.


@Kate Farms Shill - thank you for your consistently excellent posts! The Dani updates are great. One thing that always weirded me out about her is that she always looks so dirty in her selfies, like her skin looks grimy - does she just not wash regularly?

She does not. She often posts to let people know she finally showered after _ days because she's too fatigued, too much pain, too light headed, her apartment doesn't have a bathtub, she doesn't own a shower chair, whatever her excuse is. But no, she's gross. On top of that her diet consists of sugar, energy drinks, fried food, and now apparently watered down tube feeds. Since giving up the gluten free vegan act she has eaten like a damn toddler.

I'm thinking of taking a Dani break and tackling one of the mods over at /r/illnessfakers because she's a hoot n' a holler. But I'm also worried this will bring the munchies out of IF to bombard us with autism. I already have everything saved for posterity so even if she figures out I'm stalking her she's too late to DFE.