Social Justice Warriors - Now With Less Feminism Sperging

[José Mourinho]

 

[MW 002]

These fucking people...

I swear Transphillic wouldn't even begin to describe their creepy obsession with gender

 

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Heya kids, long time thread lurker, first time poster. Anyway, Razorfist, being the massive metalhead he is, had some chiming in to do with MetalGate. I was thinking of linking this into the GG thread over yonder but.... naaah. Y'all need some razorfisting as well.... and I immediately regret typing that.

 

[MarineTrainedTard]

I stopped about fifteen seconds in because this guy seems pretty obnoxious.

I must not be as much of a metalhead as I thought, never heard of "MetalGate".

 

[Ryan Rash]

She's just pissed because people typically aren't attracted to assholes.

 

[Hummingbird]

The girls are great on the guitar and cello and I wouldn't mind seeing a sexist jerk-free Christmas, but it still is an obnoxious song.

 

[c-no]

So that means all homosexual men are transphobes then? I like to see the mental gymnastics in avoiding the homophobic label.

 

[MW 002]

I reckon seeing a thread of SJWs telling gay men to go check their cisgender privileges a long time ago

 

[Hummingbird]

Why is that they always forget that there are plenty of white groups that were persecuted in the states? The Irish and Italians were pretty much the "white niggers" for years and I heard that some nasty stuff happened to the later in the 1800's. And those from the eastern half of Europe weren't treated to nicely, either.

 

[MW 002]

Why is that they always forget that there are plenty of white groups that were persecuted in the states? The Irish and Italians were pretty much the "white niggers" for years and I heard that some nasty stuff happened to the later in the 1800's. And those from the eastern half of Europe weren't treated to nicely, either.

Because they are kids who want to pretend they are bawwpressed

 

[Cosmos]

Pffft, no, fuck off and check your gay privilege.
When I write, I try to make my characters realistic and flawed and complex. They're not just tools to push an agenda. And btw, I am not a 'queer author'. I hate the term queer. I'm gay. And I'm just an author. My sexuality doesn't inform my writing. I have plenty of straight and gay character, along with characters who are bisexual or not really interested in relationships. If they challenge someone to see gay people as humans or sexual brings or whatever, great. But I'm just about writing a story everyone can enjoy and get something out of.

What gets me the most is that these people don't seem to understand that your sexuality is only one small facet of what makes you who you are. What about your likes and dislikes? Strengths and weaknesses? Personality? Hopes and dreams? How you connect to other people? Or how about your experiences and where life has taken you? There are so many things that contribute to what makes a person who they are; a competent writer knows that and tries to incorporate all of those elements when they create their characters. If your character's sole defining characteristic is that they're gay or trans, you haven't done a very good job.

It really reflects how Tumblrinas think of themselves. So many of them hang onto their labels and make them define who they are because they (subconsciously) know that otherwise they're just "normal," like every other human being, which is the worst thing that you can be. So they put a ton of emphasis on being ~queer~ because they think it makes them interesting and unique. But they don't understand that, if the most interesting thing about you is who you like to kiss or fuck, then you're not all that interesting. The same goes for characters.

You know, this kind of reminds me of the flack that J.K. Rowling got for making Dumbledore gay. When people criticized her for not making Dumbledore "gay enough," she responded by basically saying "In Harry's world, Dumbledore's sexuality was never relevant. What was relevant was the way he mentored and helped Harry. And besides, why should a person behave differently in their everyday behavior just because of their sexual orientation?" Not to mention that there was some serious subtext going on between Dumbledore and Grindelwald.

 

[Burned Man]

You know, this kind of reminds me of the flack that J.K. Rowling got for making Dumbledore gay. When people criticized her for not making Dumbledore "gay enough," she responded by basically saying "In Harry's world, Dumbledore's sexuality was never relevant. What was relevant was the way he mentored and helped Harry. And besides, why should a person behave differently in their everyday behavior just because of their sexual orientation?" Not to mention that there was some serious subtext going on between Dumbledore and Grindelwald.

Dumbledore needed to wear a mesh tank top, talk with a pronounced lisp, and constantly hit on Harry. Because stereotypes are the only way to set up a characters sexuality or race, subtlety is stupid. I think the best story for a SJW would be one where the characters introduce themselves with their name and then several paragraphs of exposition about how they are gay or trans. Preferably they should do it times that really stop the momentum of the story.

 

[Henry Bemis]

I think the best story for a SJW would be one where the characters introduce themselves with their name and then several paragraphs of exposition about [their oppression]. Preferably they should do it times that really stop the momentum of the story.

So, basically, My Immortal?

 

[Cosmos]

Dumbledore needed to wear a mesh tank top, talk with a pronounced lisp, and constantly hit on Harry. Because stereotypes are the only way to set up a characters sexuality or race, subtlety is stupid. I think the best story for a SJW would be one where the characters introduce themselves with their name and then several paragraphs of exposition about how they are gay or trans. Preferably they should do it times that really stop the momentum of the story.

That's right! Even though we say stereotypes are bad, let's keep perpetuating them because God forbid we portray minorities as actual people instead of cardboard cutouts. Your race/sexuality/gender/etc is literally THE MOST IMPORTANT thing about yourself and needs to be beaten into the ground so people don't forget about it. Because, as we all know, in real life black people only ever talk about being black, all gay guys have lisps and constantly talk about what guys they want to fuck, and bisexual people are too busy fucking everyone under the sun to give any comments.

Really, though, it's a no-win situation. If you do make characters blatantly stereotypical, SJWs will scream about how offensive and problematic it is. If you make your characters normal people and don't have their sexualities/race/whatever be the center of everything they do, SJWs will accuse you of "baiting" and not actually writing a "real" minority character. There's absolutely no way you can win, so it's best to not cater to them and do whatever you want to do.

 

[Android raptor]

So one of my roommates just tried to justify feminists loosing their shit over things like men spreading their legs on subways or epic science pin up shirts while ignoring things like the lack of support for male rape and abuse victims or female rapists and pedophiles not being taken seriously because "its the most crucial time for feminism also those men's issues will be dealt when we defeat the patriarchy hurr" or some shit.

With shit like this I don't blame the men's rights movement for becoming a thing (too bad it was overtaken by spoiled whiny losers, much like feminism).

 

[For The Internet]

What gets me the most is that these people don't seem to understand that your sexuality is only one small facet of what makes you who you are. What about your likes and dislikes? Strengths and weaknesses? Personality? Hopes and dreams? How you connect to other people? Or how about your experiences and where life has taken you? There are so many things that contribute to what makes a person who they are; a competent writer knows that and tries to incorporate all of those elements when they create their characters. If your character's sole defining characteristic is that they're gay or trans, you haven't done a very good job.

It really reflects how Tumblrinas think of themselves. So many of them hang onto their labels and make them define who they are because they (subconsciously) know that otherwise they're just "normal," like every other human being, which is the worst thing that you can be. So they put a ton of emphasis on being ~queer~ because they think it makes them interesting and unique. But they don't understand that, if the most interesting thing about you is who you like to kiss or fuck, then you're not all that interesting. The same goes for characters.

You know, this kind of reminds me of the flack that J.K. Rowling got for making Dumbledore gay. When people criticized her for not making Dumbledore "gay enough," she responded by basically saying "In Harry's world, Dumbledore's sexuality was never relevant. What was relevant was the way he mentored and helped Harry. And besides, why should a person behave differently in their everyday behavior just because of their sexual orientation?" Not to mention that there was some serious subtext going on between Dumbledore and Grindelwald.

I won't bother repeating my many rants on sexuality only being a small facet of a healthy person's identity, but I totally agree with everything you said.

I was dumbfounded by that Dumbledore shit. His sexuality had zero place in that series, and if you're too immature to see the massive tension and subtext with Grindelwald then you're too immature to be trying to give JKR critique on how to portray gay men. The hints were there. I'd wondered if he might be gay but I always thought she wrote him perfectly. You don't need to be gay to write a great gay character.

I'm so happy I got the chance to sperg about Harry Potter!

 

[StallChaser]

That's right! Even though we say stereotypes are bad, let's keep perpetuating them because God forbid we portray minorities as actual people instead of cardboard cutouts. Your race/sexuality/gender/etc is literally THE MOST IMPORTANT thing about yourself and needs to be beaten into the ground so people don't forget about it. Because, as we all know, in real life black people only ever talk about being black, all gay guys have lisps and constantly talk about what guys they want to fuck, and bisexual people are too busy fucking everyone under the sun to give any comments.

Really, though, it's a no-win situation. If you do make characters blatantly stereotypical, SJWs will scream about how offensive and problematic it is. If you make your characters normal people and don't have their sexualities/race/whatever be the center of everything they do, SJWs will accuse you of "baiting" and not actually writing a "real" minority character. There's absolutely no way you can win, so it's best to not cater to them and do whatever you want to do.

This is another one of those examples where social justice collapses in on itself when it's taken too far. It becomes tokenism. Characters become known as "the gay one", "the otherkin", or what have you. It's also what drives me crazy about the SJW intrusion in gaming. Diverse characters are already out there. They've been out there for a long time. It's just that the writers aren't trying to beat you over the skull with it, like "HAY GUYS LOOK A WOMAN!" Cardboard flat characters like that are criticized, and rightfully so. But as soon as someone goes outside that box, they're offended by that. Bayonetta, for example. There's no actual goal they're aiming for, because everything is "problematic". Go deep enough down the rabbit hole, and you find out there is no rabbit hole. Everything contradicts itself, and all you're left with is "Is the person who made this popular enough for me to approve of it?" Are they a Cool Person?

 

[The Littlest Shitlord]

I'll likely never stop asking this, but why don't they make their own stories filled with genderqueer transkins?

Three reasons come to mind. The first is that SJWs have the same fundamental "the world owes me" mentality that, say, Chris-chan has. This makes them too lazy to put forth the sustained effort needed to master a craft and produce work within it, and too self-righteously offended to want to. The second is that SJWs are in the mentality of minutely scrutinizing things before deciding if they are ideologically allowed to like them. The problem here is that brainstorming requires openness to ideas rather than shooting them down as soon as you have them. Thus political correctness is innately poisonous to the creative process. The third is that the taboos of SJWism were deliberately created to be extremely overbroad, for maximum use as rhetorical cudgels against the entire rest of society. Just about anything can be said to be "problematic" if you look hard enough. Even SJWs have a hard time threading their way through the ideological labyrinth that they created. It's just too hard, especially given the stunted work ethic and crippled creativity implied by the first two reasons. I can't help but think that a lot of the hatred they feel for artists who don't produce the kind of art that they feel entitled to is rooted in envy driven by their realization of their own creative sterility.

 

[José Mourinho]

 

[c-no]

Perhaps it didn't dawn on the SJW that it could be that they were different brands being used. Even then, what if the brand that was in a different section was placed by a customer who decided it was unnecessary to have the product in the cart? Either way, just another SJW complaining about a first-world problem.