Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

[Burn Book]

This Dani person is amazing, she's kinda what you'd get if queen Sammie Bushart was into half-heartedly faking illnesses instead of half-heartedly faking pregnancies.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

Recovery would require some serious self examination and insight.

From the article linked below. “Recovery is considered so rare, it’s publishable in the medical literature and considered a medical anomaly worthy of attention.”

http://archive.li/ZUsCg

What interests me as well is how she was able to obtain various diagnoses by mimicking symptoms. It shows you how subjective a lot of medical opinion is.

Thanks, for the link. so recovery it is even more rare than I thought if the leading expert on munchies took this woman to speak at a major conference.

The issue will always be doctors have to trust patients to tell them what’s wrong or what they are feeling to aid in many diagnoses. If a patient is determined to lie and fake symptoms it puts the doctor it totally negates much of the diagnosis criteria.

There are just a number of conditions that rely almost entirely on self reported symptoms, many diseases of exclusion, and those are the ones munchies love most. Some will go big though and aim for diagnoses that require more effort.

 

[TwoFiftyTwoPM]

She does not. She often posts to let people know she finally showered after _ days because she's too fatigued, too much pain, too light headed, her apartment doesn't have a bathtub, she doesn't own a shower chair, whatever her excuse is. But no, she's gross. On top of that her diet consists of sugar, energy drinks, fried food, and now apparently watered down tube feeds. Since giving up the gluten free vegan act she has eaten like a damn toddler.

I'm thinking of taking a Dani break and tackling one of the mods over at /r/illnessfakers because she's a hoot n' a holler. But I'm also worried this will bring the munchies out of IF to bombard us with autism. I already have everything saved for posterity so even if she figures out I'm stalking her she's too late to DFE.

That definitely explains that about Dani. Always wondered about that. Like, it's no shame to skip a day or two of showers. It's definitely shameful to keep shoving pictures of your grimy self onto the world.

Also interested in your mod tackling.

 

[suck my pickle]

She does not. She often posts to let people know she finally showered after _ days because she's too fatigued, too much pain, too light headed, her apartment doesn't have a bathtub, she doesn't own a shower chair, whatever her excuse is. But no, she's gross. On top of that her diet consists of sugar, energy drinks, fried food, and now apparently watered down tube feeds. Since giving up the gluten free vegan act she has eaten like a damn toddler.

I'm thinking of taking a Dani break and tackling one of the mods over at /r/illnessfakers because she's a hoot n' a holler. But I'm also worried this will bring the munchies out of IF to bombard us with autism. I already have everything saved for posterity so even if she figures out I'm stalking her she's too late to DFE.

please do. those mods need to be exposed.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

Is malingering the same thing as being a munchie? I associate it with faking sick to get out of something, not to get attention. Like when a kid has a test and they tell their mom they don't feel well and want to stay home.

 

[TwoFiftyTwoPM]

Is malingering the same thing as being a munchie? I associate it with faking sick to get out of something, not to get attention. Like when a kid has a test and they tell their mom they don't feel well and want to stay home.

Malingering = acting sick to get money, drugs, or some other tangible reward. Munching = acting sick to get attention. There tends to be a lot of crossover so sometimes it's hard to tell which is the primary motivator.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

Is malingering the same thing as being a munchie? I associate it with faking sick to get out of something, not to get attention. Like when a kid has a test and they tell their mom they don't feel well and want to stay home.

Correct. The difference between malingering and munchausen is the primary goal. Malingerers want something material like money, drugs, or to get out of obligations and any attention they get from their plight is secondary. Munchies want attention and anything else they get in this pursuit is secondary.

Janjan IMO is a malingerer. She's in it for money, presents, and to not have to work. This is why she shuts down her vlogging for months at a time and only communicates through patreon, and why she actually doesn't want any medical procedure that is even vaguely uncomfortable. She does just enough to keep people paying her.

edit: ninja'd!

From the IFAftermath sub: people are "digitally self harming." I'm done with this generation.

 

[Video Games]

What interests me as well is how she was able to obtain various diagnoses by mimicking symptoms. It shows you how subjective a lot of medical opinion is.

What's funny is that munchies complain so much about medical gatekeeping, but if anything, Munchausen highlights how much of medical diagnosis and treatment relies on the patient-doctor relationship.

Sure, there are illnesses that can be seen or tested for, but for a lot of major, fairly common issues, a doctor's job is completely dependent on the patient herself.

For example, you tell the doctor you've been getting headaches, and describe exactly how the headache feels, where you feel it, etc. Based on your description, your doctor suspects you've been getting migraines, and prescribes a medication to take when your symptoms pop up. You take the medicine the next time your head starts to hurt, and tell your doctor that it successfully stopped your headache.

This entire scenario could play out the exact same way for the doctor if a patient just looked up migraine symptoms online and claimed to be experiencing them. With a condition like migraines, doctors aren't really on the lookout for fakers, since migraine medication wouldn't be useful to anyone except someone suffering from migraines--unlike in-demand drugs like opiates or Adderall. The only person who doesn't experience migraines who would benefit from being diagnosed with them is a munchie or a malingerer.

And if you're a doctor, what do you do when it comes to patient-reported conditions? Increasing "gatekeeping" would harm the people who are actually suffering while possibly catching a tiny percentage of the population who fakes illness. But munchies are taking resources from people who need them and, you know, sometimes killing themselves in the process.

Glad I'm not a doctor, I guess.

 

[TwoFiftyTwoPM]

Correct. The difference between malingering and munchausen is the primary goal. Malingerers want something material like money, drugs, or to get out of obligations and any attention they get from their plight is secondary. Munchies want attention and anything else they get in this pursuit is secondary.

Janjan IMO is a malingerer. She's in it for money, presents, and to not have to work. This is why she shuts down her vlogging for months at a time and only communicates through patreon, and why she actually doesn't want any medical procedure that is even vaguely uncomfortable. She does just enough to keep people paying her.

edit: ninja'd!

From the IFAftermath sub: people are "digitally self harming." I'm done with this generation.
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That last comment about teens who post disparaging comments to get reassurances.....poster apparently hasn't ever heard the term "fishing" before.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

That last comment about teens who post disparaging comments to get reassurances.....poster apparently hasn't ever heard the term "fishing" before.

There's a whole major plot point in fucking Mean Girls where Regina George writes nasty things about herself in the Burn Book so that she can make herself the victim. It's a shitty narcissistic move that petty people have been pulling since time immemorial.

 

[latter day taint]

I'm thinking of taking a Dani break and tackling one of the mods over at /r/illnessfakers because she's a hoot n' a holler. But I'm also worried this will bring the munchies out of IF to bombard us with autism. I already have everything saved for posterity so even if she figures out I'm stalking her she's too late to DFE.

This would be Christmas in May. I need this in my life like a munchie needs a port.

 

[WarpedTourWasFun]

How do I go about introducing someone to the thread? I'm not sure if he falls more under munchie or malingerer, he's an EDSer, but something is... off.
He also has the money for toys and gaming systems and things that are meant for autistic kids to chew on, despite not working.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

How do I go about introducing someone to the thread? I'm not sure if he falls more under munchie or malingerer, he's an EDSer, but something is... off.
He also has the money for toys and gaming systems and things that are meant for autistic kids to chew on, despite not working.

Write a brief summary with some receipts and hit "post reply." We don't vet them beforehand. If your submission sucks, people will give you negative ratings and/or tell you your submission sucks.

 

[Sooper Speshul Southerner]

Correct. The difference between malingering and munchausen is the primary goal. Malingerers want something material like money, drugs, or to get out of obligations and any attention they get from their plight is secondary. Munchies want attention and anything else they get in this pursuit is secondary.

Janjan IMO is a malingerer. She's in it for money, presents, and to not have to work. This is why she shuts down her vlogging for months at a time and only communicates through patreon, and why she actually doesn't want any medical procedure that is even vaguely uncomfortable. She does just enough to keep people paying her.

edit: ninja'd!

From the IFAftermath sub: people are "digitally self harming." I'm done with this generation.
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For fucks sake. They will come up with some ridiculous victim word for everything.

 

[chronicallybullshitting]

There's a whole major plot point in fucking Mean Girls where Regina George writes nasty things about herself in the Burn Book so that she can make herself the victim. It's a shitty narcissistic move that petty people have been pulling since time immemorial.

Preach - mean girls sums it all up. Narcissistic bitches talking shit about narcisssitic bitches.

“Digital self harm” - ive seen everything now.

The IFAftermath subreddit was created by Amy Lee Fisher - the UK born munchie who now lives in Australia., she was outed by the admins of the IF subreddit, i’ll see if I can pull up the screenshots.

It is a goldmine of munchies sucking munchie dick, it’s a huge cringe fest and if you click on some of the user profiles and have a scroll down them you can find some wonderful blog posts that make no sense at all.

Edit : fixed the name of the person who made the IFAftermath subreddit.

 

[nothingtoseehere]

The IFAftermath subreddit was created by Chronically Amy - the UK born munchie who now lives in Australia.

I think you're conflating Amy Lee Fisher / Amy's Life /chronically.ams on IG (OTT Brit-in-Australia) with Chronically Amy (teenage skin-walker munchie wannabe). It could be Amy Lee Fisher, but I doubt it's Chronically Copy-cat Amy. But as far as I can tell the posts from the OP/Moderator are far too literate for either of them ... I think it's a different person who has previously been a subject on IF but dialed it back. And who actually does have a port now.

 

[WarpedTourWasFun]

There are FIVE subreddits that I'm aware of that all revolve around talking about the same few people. IF was entertaining when it started, but it's just such a dumpster fire now.

 

[chronicallybullshitting]

I think you're conflating Amy Lee Fisher / Amy's Life (OTT Brit-in-Australia) with Chronically Amy (teenage skin-walker munchie wannabe). It could be Amy Lee Fisher, but I doubt it's Chronically Copy-cat Amy. But as far as I can tell the posts from the OP/Moderator are far too literate for either of them ... I think it's a different person who has previously been a subject on IF but dialed it back. And who actually does have a port now.

I’ve corrected it - you’re right, thank you for that it was Amy Lee fisher, for some reason I thought her screen name chronically Amy, there’s that many of them it gets so confusing.

But no, the IF mods confirmed it was her in a now (unfortunately) deleted thread, and shockingly - it’s not that surprising.

 

[nothingtoseehere]

Can people with info post links and info about Julian.

https://lolcow.farm/snow/res/504054.html#504054
https://www.reddit.com/r/illnessfakers/comments/8csemu/aj_and_julian/?sort=old

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

I have to apologize because I promised an IF mod-massacre. I didn’t realize until I was finishing this up that this person is no longer an active mod of /r/illnessfakers and hasn't been for a while, which shows how often I venture into that bleak void. I hope this isn't old, cold tea I'm spilling, but after a while of googling I can find only sporadic mentions of this person being a ban-happy pronoun police. Most posts are actually sympathetic to her since current mods are such shitheads. I can find SJWs calling her out for founding a hate site that makes everyone who has ever had a cold "unsafe," (what the fuck is with these kids and their constant self-victimization?) and but nothing calling her out for being totally full of 100% munchie bullshit except one difficult-to-find social media platform she no longer uses. So here. Learn how this subreddit was fucked from the start since their very founder is, herself, a gigantic munchie:

Spoiler: a very extensive history of /u/KittenBread aka Nina Jean Grant.

Real first name: Nicola, but I wrote almost this whole thing before I found that information so Nina it is.

Blog: Brain Kittens, archive
Patreon: Nina Childish, archive
Twatter: @notwaving, archive
Facebook: Nina Jean, archive
Instagram: @ninajean, (old archive, currently won't let me make a new one)
Pinterest: ninachildish, won't archive sorry
Ask.fm: notwaving, archive, such a fucking goldmine.
About.me NinaJ

Nina is a fat 33-year-old they/them genderspecial from London, England who wants to smash the disability binary, whatever the fuck that means. She makes a living scamming the government for a tugboat, abusing NHS, and screeching at people and businesses over disability access she does not actually require. She claims to have seventy billion disorders and diagnoses including Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome hypermobility subtype, postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, gastroparesis, arthritis, non-epileptic seizures, degenerative disk disease, cervical instability, hypertension, hypertrophic myocardiopathy, vagismis, a retroverted cervix, chiari malformation, raynauds, chronic fatigue, an unnamed and undiagnosed sleep disorder she seems to think is narcolepsy, anemia, scoliosis, asthma, heart failure, and hydrocephalus. She also claims she suffers from ADD, bipolar, depression, anxiety, social anxiety, brain fog, and formerly an eating disorder but is now a body positive warrior aka sedentary fatass pretending to be disabled and showing off her udders and rolls on instagram. She was a cutter and loves to display her scars. She engages in all of the exact same behaviors IF users accused the other munchies of engaging in, including pill porn, narcotics abuse, wearing a useless VOG mask, collecting and decorating medical tools, documenting her every health woe, sucking up resources, constantly trying to find something else wrong with her, always getting worse despite getting treatments that would help if she had the problems she claimed, and hashtag abuse. If she’s not chimping out over someplace that isn’t totally accessible to her unnecessary mobility aids, she’s farting on about gender and “queerness” or body positivity.

How can such a useless unemployed waste of person afford to live on a tugboat in London? Easy: her rich parents pay for everything. She denies it up and down but the masses of people who know her IRL confirm this on various platforms. She spends most of her PIP on vacations abroad, munchie toys, plastic crap intended for children, clothing that announces how insufferable she is (see photo above), and stuffing herself with food.

/u/KittenBread admitting she writes the Brain Kittens blog:


In sweet irony, some other fat fake-disabled genderblob SJW and a troon who claims to have a mitochondrial disease doxed her on Twitter because they were mad that she was calling out people who fake disabilities. @EverydayAbilism dropped her over this fiasco.

She got the boot from the sub during some Mod Wars, announced officially in January 2019 but apparently dating back several weeks. According to current mods, she had been flaky, gone for long periods, threatened to delete the sub (funny, since a month later they deleted the sub in the face of criticism), and generally was a giant pain in the ass to try to work with. She then deleted her handle.

Nina is the one who set up the draconian rules the current mods are using to silence dissent and the ultra-PC atmosphere, as if they didn’t migrate there from anything goes gossip threads on lolcow.farm. Basically, Nina is largely responsible for why it is a dumpster fire of a cuddlebox that allows munchies to proliferate and provides them with information to help shore up their claims. And even if she wasn't responsible for the sub, she's endless entertainment not just on her own little internet platforms but in the legitimate (and tabloid) press. As mentioned she likes to draw attention to herself by publicly losing her shit whenever a place isn’t completely wheelchair accessible/doesn’t coddle her, despite being totally able-bodied. Here she is whining in the Metro about a Topshop putting overstock in the disabled change room which is actually pretty fucked up if anyone needs that change room, but Nina doesn’t.

Here she’s suing a bus company because they won’t make people with strollers move out of the wheelchair space for her after her tactic of not letting the bus driver proceed on his route until she got her way did not work.

Here she is complaining that the London tube doesn’t make an employee drop fucking everything to cater to her at rush hour when she doesn't actually need their help.

Here she is in the Guardian complaining that no one wants to fuck a fat attention-seeking munchie genderblob.

Here she is in the Guardian complaining that it takes her slightly longer to do things because she insists on sitting her ass a wheelchair she doesn’t need.

A TheMighty masturbatory blogpiece about how strong and brave she is.

And here, complaining about how she still lives at home at 32 because she refuses to get a job or stop playing sad little cripple girl. (archive)

In 2016, Nina got her tugboat taken away, which she used for more victim points (archive). Drawing all of this attention to how goddamned useless she is led to a deluge of doubt in her ask.fm. Good thing she saved all her spoons so she could have a witty comeback for each and every one. A random bouquet:



Nina wasn't always a fat genderblob who screamed about her fake disability. She once got her kicks by pissing away mom and dad's money on grown up theater and dance classes and traveling. In this photo we see Nina looking healthy and normal in 2009, carrying a heavy (13kg/28.5lb) backpack and trekking around the Netherlands. Of course, she’ll remind you, she had EDS back then, too and the pain was terrible and she was so fatigued all the time and her joints constantly dislocated.


In 2011 she made an instagram and one of her very first posts was complaining about her health while clutching a plushie. And it just goes downhill from there.


Here she is m.ilking a minor finger injury for multiple artsy photos.


Showing off mundane, run-of-the-mill meds, her self harm scars…


Documenting routine medical procedures…


Typical pizza cutter: all edge, no point.


More random meds and mundane procedures


lace-up braces for the Ehlers-Danlos syndrome she suddenly starts tagging in 2013.


Narcotics, narcotics for a hangover, narcotics for an arts and crafts project, narcotics in a KYOOOT box


Calls her medical supplies bin a “toybox”


she's a ballerina. Joint hypermobility, one of the main diagnostic signs of hEDS, is to be expected for someone who trained her joints to be super flexible. I have no idea how these foot gloves are supposed to help her with toe dislocations since they are literally just, like, stretchy gloves for your toes with leather pads on the ball of the foot. I do know that she intentionally picked the one of the most obnoxiously visible pair she could possibly find since these things are usually nude to blend in with your skin.


Video’d her echocardiogram.


Claims heart failure. Pulse oximeter she buys and shows off later says otherwise.


#pots #autonomicdysfunction #heartdisease


medic alert tag with very little information that would be important in an actual emergency


More about how she's the sickest spoonie with the most pain ever


Spring 2015 the manual wheelchair appears with no notice and is treated as if it has always been there


If a munchie is prescribed a pill and doesn’t document it for social media, was she ever really prescribed?


After the wheelchair she has SmartCrutches, which run about $100-140 and which are marketed explicitly to the EDS set. Seriously, if you go to their FAQ the second question is “why people with Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome (EDS) prefer SmartCrutch.” They even make a zebra-print skin for them.


Can still do ballet tho.


Look at that totally not at all hyperextended thumb


Wheelchair, wrist braces, and forearm crutches visible while kvetching about disability access.


more random medical fetishization


This is not a scoliosis brace. This is a posture corrector available on amazon for about $40-$70. A real scoliosis brace is cast to the individual and costs thousands of dollars. This is the only time I saw her mention this diagnosis.


Moving on to transdermal narcotics patches which she puts on her chest like port dressing (because putting them somewhere discrete like a normal human being might dislocate her shoulders) then makes sure are visible by wearing tank tops... in England in November


Needs laxatives because “iron pills,” certainly not because she eats narcotics like skittles.


Gotta make sure those crutches you decorated are in the shot, am I rite?


February 2016, starts a GoFuckMe for a powerchair since the mean old NHS won't pay for one and she obviously can't get a job. Funny how mummy and daddy wouldn't pay for this one, isn't it? Almost like the know she doesn't need it. April 2016, she "gets approved" for a power chair aka reaches her free munniez goal.


look at her fucking insta feed.


#medicalmarijuana tagged for CBD she purchased online for $65 complete with vape pen/battery.


Just taking my power chair I scammed well-meaning individuals into paying for out for fancy coffee nbd.


She likes participating in medical studies for disorders she does not have to validate herself while throwing off their data.


Gotta show off those custom splints.


Look at that locked, perfectly straight knee in the first pic. This is someone who claims her joints are so loose they dislocate if she walks.


Here’s an idea: get out of the chair and walk up the fucking stairs. hEDS does not make you go from ballet to paralyzed in a few days.


More random health updates


New toy! hot pink, of course


Needs a grabber because okay whatever. Even more toys, tests, and treatments.


Why is this necessary?


Pill porn, everything makes her nauseous


Obligatory VOG mask appears


Literally half of these are empty. I ask again, why is this necessary?


Filtering the fuck out of a photo in an attempt to make it look like she has Raynauds. Raynauds sufferers’ fingers turn stark, unnaturally white and blue in the cold and often have a distinct line between affected and unaffected areas. You cannot mistake this.
vs.

Blinking pink lights on her chair. Jaquie is that you?


First mention of gastroparesis. A week ago she was eating fried pierogies and drinking beer and coke. Cries in A&E to get reglan a few days later.


Chronic fatigue, sleep disorder.


Deflecting from her own munchie behavior by calling out other munchies. Must be hard to not have all the best toys like feeding tubes and ports despite being at this for much longer. She’s british so she’s fighting the NHS for every totally necessary treatment, of course.


#mugglesick


looking for more things to be wrong with her


“ridiculously sensitive eds skin” your self harm marks seem to heal aight, unlike someone with actual EDS. Also shows off her fat gut and doesn’t have stretch marks despite rapidly gaining weight.


Chimping out because her narcotics are late


this is not a position someone with EDS so bad they can’t walk wants to sit in…


heart failure is back. This time it’s really real heart failure.


She bought those stickman communication cards


Degenerative disk disease


arthritis, hydrocephalus. Hydrofuckingcephalus.


Special anatomy.


And that brings us up to this very week, where she continues to come up with more things she wants to find wrong with her so she can continue to not do anything meaningful with her life and scream about how she's a victim.

There you have it, Kiwis. A case of “she who smelt it, dealt it.” Hope it was as fun a ride for you as it was for me.

a million edits because there were bound to be some fuck ups in a post this long