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kind of an old clip, but still relevant. This is from a panel in 2008 during at which time ADV (now sentai filmworks) was on the verge of filing bankruptcy as a result of the recession. The two guys their are Matt Greenfield and John Ledford (who at the time were the heads of ADV, and Ledford is now CEO of sentai). I'd suggest if everyone has the chance to watch this just to see how professional and business savy these two are while they are dealing with the greatest blow their company has ever faced, because these two are geniuses in an industry full of imbeciles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n_woIsfQUM

For all the shit ADV was fun. Not like 4Kids....or Faux Kids as I call em
Wtf happened to Al Kahn anyway
 
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Revisiting this puts a lot into perspective. It subtly hints that whoever was in that chat had nothing on Vic after all, prior to this being leaked.
Because there was nothing. There is nothing. The entire foundation of their accusations is hearsay and just stuff that happened that they suddenly decided they weren't cool with years later and whatever they have that isn't just a hug or a kiss on the cheek that they deem as sexual assault is shady at best with no proof of anything. Everything that happened to them was consensual and the second the shit storm starting hitting the fan, that's when they all changed their minds and "revoked" their consent, lambasted him with baseless accusations with no evidence, and destroyed his career in what was and is CLEARLY a witch hunt because they just don't like him in a conspiracy plot that backfired so hard. But they, not wanting to look like fools just double down even more because that's the smart thing to do.
I mean because they could have just pulled Vic aside and told him they weren't cool with whatever he did and for him to not do it again but apparently their modus operandi is to let it just happen and then take to twitter to sperg and screech about how they were mistreated and how anyone who doesn't believe them or has a different opinion are just a bunch of alt-right nazis.
 
Speaking of which, why is going woke sometimes referred to as "drinking the Kool-Aid"?
Respect to the others that answered, but I'm not sure they really got to the heart of the question.

It's about people killing themselves in the name of progressivism. Not so much literally, right now, but certainly financially. For instance, here's a line from the Death Tape:

“No other way I would rather go than to give my life for socialism, Communism, and I thank Dad very, very much.”

Now, minus the thanking of any father figure, don't know about you, but I know an unsettling amount of people that I would not be shocked to hear, nowadays, this was their final words.

Didn't use to use the term that way. Used to just use it to comment that someone was simply following someone or something blindly. But now people are getting ridiculous- and dangerous- again, so here we are.

Tsk tsk Josh, I hope the m'lady knows.
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Holy shit, that was just last year. Who does he think he is? A white supremacist?! He is married to a very white.... uh.... I suppose human is the correct word, here. Anyways, his pasty brown skin tone is no defense! Clearly this man is an actual Nazi.

...I was about to make a joke about whether or not fisting a nazi is the same as punching one, but then I thought of Armzgurl fisting with her orangutan arms. I no longer wish to make that joke.

Next KV are gonna start asking if they can use Spectral Evidence.
"Yes your honor, Vic came to me and sexually assaulted me last night. It doesn't matter if he was miles away, he came to me in a dream which makes him guilty."
"I once had a dream, about a decade ago, that Vic absolutely ravished me. By the time I woke up, my bed was completely ruined. Ten years later, I realized that I didn't give Vic consent to invade my subconscious. Your Honor, members of the Jury, the man mind raped me."
 
Haven't seen this posted, yet:
https://twitter.com/Imsupergirl11/status/1125953204020305920
https://archive.is/30FMo
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The second she cited the i09 article that has been PROVEN to have withheld certain information and made specifically to be a hit piece on Vic, I already stopped paying attention and dismissed it as angry thottery.
Makes me wonder what she would gain by colluding with #kickvic in the iO9 article. Just wildly speculating, maybe she was on a Will or something and would benefit from a possible suicide. It's been implied a few times in the past by Nick R.
It's not always what could be gained from turning against him. Vic had apparently cheated on her before and as we've seen with kickvic's local coslut, Pridebitch, those thots can hold a grudge when spurned by the cock of their dreams. I wouldn't be surprised if she was only in it solely for revenge because I'm not gonna lie, women can be extremely petty and vindictive when they get cheated on. If they see an opportunity to bury someone they don't like, you can bet your sweet ass and a left titty they gon take it.
 
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Makes me wonder what she would gain by colluding with #kickvic in the iO9 article. Just wildly speculating, maybe she was on a Will or something and would benefit from a possible suicide. It's been implied a few times in the past by Nick R.

One of two options: Vic actually confessed to some fucked up shit.
OR, she's just a vengeful ex, especially since he cheated on her - I wouldn't be shocked if he eventually confessed to that. Hell, I suspect an affair is what caused the cancellation of their wedding.

Edit: Also, if I'm not mistaken, I think she's a friend of Monica Rial.
 
Someone's angry...

Now, I'm curious about what information she implicitly presents to be privy to.

Sprecht herself said, according to the io9 article, that she had no idea about the particular accusations levied against Vic in the past months. She alludes to details that she apparently learned from Vic's own mouth without actually making mention of them, meaning that on top of learning of the allegations third-hand like the rest of us, she likely didn't even know about Vic's response to the allegations because Unterkin just decided to withhold the interview that she went through the trouble of holding herself. Either that, or she dumbly believes that what he admitted to her constitutes any kind of sexual misconduct beyond infidelity. I doubt that Vic, being aware of the importance of legal counsel months ago, would willingly decide to go through with the interview he went through, answering the way that he did, only to report something different to Sprecht that seems to be hyped up as "the witch-hunters were right all along" levels of bad such that the latter is the actual truth.

The tough lady act over the internet (particularly the unironic "delet this") is borderline nauseating, and I'm guessing that the reason that Super Girl is complying with anything she's demanding is because Super Girl doesn't have real faith in what she's reporting. And fair enough, I'm fairly certain the very little that Sprecht decided to address as wrong is itself exaggerated, as is the norm for much of the WW reporting outside of Nick (remember, this person jumped on the Monica-reeing-at-black-Ed-cosplayer bandwagon without properly investigating like Hero Hei and Chambers). Even then, Super Girl should have just told her "Make me" or even "I'll retract if you actually explain what the heck you're talking about"-- regardless of the faith she had in her reporting.

Because what is she even going to do? Report her? For what?

And I wanted to say this especially: Sprecht has no business telling people that they don't actually know Vic. She, by her own admission, didn't "know" Vic.

Vic had apparently cheated on her before and as we've seen with kickvic's local coslut, Pridebitch, those thots can hold a grudge when spurned by the cock of their dreams. I wouldn't be surprised if she was only in it solely for revenge because I'm not gonna lie, women can be extremely petty and vindictive when they get cheated on. If they see an opportunity to bury someone they don't like, you can bet your sweet ass and a left titty they gon take it.


Moral of the story: if you misplace your penis, you're gonna have a bad time.

The more information that comes out, the more I'm willing to bet at least 75% of this issue was generated because, on top of having liaisons, he had liaisons with ultimately unstable individuals.

Heck, some of his encounters may have been licit apart from the matter of premarital relations, so some of this might have been placement of his weiner in general.

One of two options: Vic actually confessed to some fucked up shit.
OR, she's just a vengeful ex, especially since he cheated on her - I wouldn't be shocked if he eventually confessed to that. Hell, I suspect an affair is what caused the cancellation of their wedding.

He didn't confess to anything worse than what he confessed to in public; I'm assured of that precisely because the io9 interview exists, the Funimation """investigation""" exists, no actual dirt has been able to be dug up, and Sprecht can't even be half-assed to talk about what we don't know about Vic that she apparently does while not confirming nor denying anything that Rial et al have said.

I doubt that her knowledge of an affair is what caused the divorce, given that she expressed surprise at what constituted infidelity at minimum according to io9 while also expressing effectively that given those allegations, she never truly knew her ex-fiancé.
 
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The fact of the matter is that she still hoped that someone was raped previously and would come forward. That's still pretty fucking shitty if you ask me. She could've just admitted that there was nothing she had on Vic assaulting minors but instead she sits there and thinks "omg I hope that someone was raped by him and will come forward to help us so we don't look like liars".
So no, Jamie Fuckface is a bitch and I hope lightning strikes her and kills the cunt.

I'd say she's hoping someone comes forward with a false allegation of childhood rape. Which is bad enough on its own, but I don't think she was hoping for someone to have been raped, because I'm not convinced she believes there are real victims out there in the first place, and she'd need to believe that in order to be hoping for that.
 
I'd say she's hoping someone comes forward with a false allegation of childhood rape. Which is bad enough on its own, but I don't think she was hoping for someone to have been raped, because I'm not convinced she believes there are real victims out there in the first place, and she'd need to believe that in order to be hoping for that.
No. She was hoping for something real because she needs something real to give credit to KV's lies. If someone comes out with more false allegations or even true ones that are beyond the statue of limitations, then it would defeat the purpose of using that to make the baseless accusations have an actual base. Having someone come forth with their own false allegations doesn't make sense since they'd only be dragging yet another person into this mess and they'd be in the same exact position as Marchi, Rial, Pridemore, etc. False information is still false no matter how you look at it and no matter how you spin it. If it can't be proven without a shadow of a doubt, then what's the point?
So yes, she was hoping that someone was actually a victim and that they came forward so that they could specifically use that victim to save themselves and damage Vic even further.
 
Now, I'm curious about what information she implicitly presents to be privy to.

Sprecht herself said, according to the io9 article, that she had no idea about the particular accusations levied against Vic in the past months. She alludes to details that she apparently learned from Vic's own mouth without actually making mention of them, meaning that on top of learning of the allegations third-hand like the rest of us, she likely didn't even know about Vic's response to the allegations because Unterkin just decided to withhold the interview that she went through the trouble of holding herself. Either that, or she dumbly believes that what he admitted to her constitutes any kind of sexual misconduct beyond infidelity. I doubt that Vic, being aware of the importance of legal counsel months ago, would willingly decide to go through with the interview he went through, answering the way that he did, only to report something different to Sprecht that seems to be hyped up as "the witch-hunters were right all along" levels of bad such that the latter is the actual truth.

The tough lady act over the internet (particularly the unironic "delet this") is borderline nauseating, and I'm guessing that the reason that Super Girl is complying with anything she's demanding is because Super Girl doesn't have real faith in what she's reporting. And fair enough, I'm fairly certain the very little that Sprecht decided to address as wrong is itself exaggerated, as is the norm for much of the WW reporting outside of Nick (remember, this person jumped on the Monica-reeing-at-black-Ed-cosplayer bandwagon without properly investigating like Hero Hei and Chambers). Even then, Super Girl should have just told her "Make me" or even "I'll retract if you actually explain what the heck you're talking about"-- regardless of the faith she had in her reporting.

Because what is she even going to do? Report her? For what?

And I wanted to say this especially: Sprecht has no business telling people that they don't actually know Vic. She, by her own admission, didn't "know" Vic.




Moral of the story: if you misplace your penis, you're gonna have a bad time.

The more information that comes out, the more I'm willing to bet at least 75% of this issue was generated because, on top of having liaisons, he had liaisons with ultimately unstable individuals.

Heck, some of his encounters may have been licit apart from the matter of premarital relations, so some of this might have been placement of his weiner in general.



He didn't confess to anything worse than what he confessed to in public; I'm assured of that precisely because the io9 interview exists, the Funimation """investigation""" exists, no actual dirt has been able to be dug up, and Sprecht can't even be half-assed to talk about what we don't know about Vic that she apparently does while not confirming nor denying anything that Rial et al have said.

I doubt that her knowledge of an affair is what caused the divorce, given that she expressed surprise at what constituted infidelity at minimum according to io9 while also expressing effectively that given those allegations, she never truly knew her ex-fiancé.
Plus we know she lied. Vic himself knew people spread these stupid rumors about him and even talked about them publicly at conventions. There's zero chance he never vented to his fiance about it bothering him.

Oddly, Specht is scheduled to be at a convention with Vic later this month for Star Trek Continues. That could get awkward. Bets she cancels?

Edit: Also Vic's stream from today is up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC0C8rKRvKo
 
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Speaking of which, why is going woke sometimes referred to as "drinking the Kool-Aid"?

Originally, it referred to LSD laced Kool-aid used to induct people into the same counter-culture (Ken Kesey, supposedly) that was subverted by Marxists in the 70s.

Later, it was made famous by the Jonestown mass suicide, and commonly refers to "a person or group holding an unquestioned belief, argument, or philosophy without critical examination." (Sound familiar?) It also has some bearing on all this culture war crap because -- ha ha, they were woke as fuck.

Jonestown was the site of the People's Temple in Jonestown, Guyana. It was a Marxist Christian cult in the 70s, extremely influential, although it was before my time and I don't know as much about it as I should.

Basically, they fled to Guyana after they started mudering people who wanted to leave and no amount of subversion / screaming could stop news articles from coming out about them. Rupert Murdoch was involved and refused to back down on reporting on them, and this might explain -- due to the People's Temple being connected to Marxist infiltration cells in the US -- why to this day the left considers him an enemy of the party.

Anyway. Jonestown in Guyana. Congressman Leo Ryan (D-California) and an NBC news crew visited. They were going to report that nothing bad was going on. A puff piece.

They were gunned down at the airport instead. (Never trust a Communist.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJSv0gDPVLA

Their leader realized that you can't actually get away with gunning down Congressmen in cold blood even if you're a member of the party -- especially when video evidence of it happening exists. You can't exactly blame it on, I dunno, Alt-Right Fascist Terrorist White People.

So he convinced his ~1000 strong group of parishiners to drink cyanide laced fruit drink. Ironically, not Kool-Aid. Not only to drink it themselves but to force the children to drink it. The poison wasn't mixed very well, so some people died clean and quietly after walking away someplace private, others twitched and screamed and had to be given "mercy injections" or were quietly shot to end their suffering.

If you want to lose a little bit of your soul, here's audio of the event. 45 minutes.

https://archive.org/details/ptc1978-11-18.flac16

"Don't worry about the children's crying, the punch is just a little bitter. It's not painful."

Bonus. The cult leader, on the death tape, warns that the evil people that are forcing them to commit "revolutionary suicide" will force their children to embrace fascism if they survive. So remember that the next time some tidybowl haired loon screems fascist at you -- and offer her some Grape Flavor Aid. Don't worry, Radical Leftists don't learn history outside of party approved scripture, so they won't get it.

He didn't confess to anything worse than what he confessed to in public; I'm assured of that precisely because the io9 interview exists, the Funimation """investigation""" exists, no actual dirt has been able to be dug up, and Sprecht can't even be half-assed to talk about what we don't know about Vic that she apparently does while not confirming nor denying anything that Rial et al have said.

They've been looking for real dirt on him for 15 years. In the past 3 months, they've been DESPERATE to find evidence to collaborate their hit pieces. And now they have lawyers who are probably doing their own investigations trying to find SOMETHING to nail Vic with so they can at least show some blood and say "look, there's SOMETHING there."

And the worst thing anyone has been able to find is him teasing a little girl on stage while he pretended to be Captain Kirk or somesuch?

Wearin' out my X button to doubt, here.
 
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OR, she's just a vengeful ex, especially since he cheated on her - I wouldn't be shocked if he eventually confessed to that. Hell, I suspect an affair is what caused the cancellation of their wedding.
Didnt Vic straight up say a while ago that he did cheat her? I also remember her talking about it herself. I recall reading about him apologizing and speaking about it publicly.
What's really interesting is that the timeline on which he and his ex said he cheated was around the time he started working with Monica alot on a specific show
I wish I saved it but someone made a timeline of it on twitter, it really supported the theory that Monica was the one Vic cheated on her with.
Would also explain why someone at FUNi was really assblasted about Vic having a consentual kiss with a co-worker.
That someone might be mad because they were a spurned lover
 
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Plus we know she lied. Vic himself knew people spread these stupid rumors about him and even talked about them publicly at conventions. There's zero chance he never vented to his fiance about it bothering him.

Oddly, Specht is scheduled to be at a convention with Vic later this month for Star Trek Continues. That could get awkward. Bets she cancels?

Edit: Also Vic's stream from today is up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC0C8rKRvKo
Doubt it, those messages are from March; I think she would've already canceled already. Plus, I think this is good income for her and her Twitter banner basically has Vic as the center of attention (whether she realizes it or not).
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So with that in mind you have two options if you want to destroy the bastards.
A. Build a better Crunchyroll, by that I mean make a subbed anime legal site with a better codex than whatever mid 2000s shit crunchyroll has been using since conception.

Also not stealing your money to give dangerhairs for fake projects would be nice too.
 
Didnt Vic straight up said a while ago that he did cheat her? I remember reading about him apologizing and speaking about it publicly. What's really interesting is that the timeline on which he and his ex said he cheated was around the time he started working with Monica alot on a specific show
I wish I saved it but someone made a timeline of it, it really supported the theory that Monica was the one Vic cheated on her with.
Would also explain someone at FUNi was really assblasted about Vic having a consentual kiss with a co-worker.
That someone might be mad because they were a spurned lover
Headcannon: Vic ended up cheating on his fiance with Rial and regrets it. He admits it in public and apologizes. Rial wants something more and Vic tells her he ain't feelin' it. Him and his fiance split. He proceeds to chad it up with another coworker at Funi to which they have a consensual kiss but decide it's probably for the best that they don't tarnish their professional relationship by having an intimate one or Vic realizes that he was probably using this coworker as a rebound from the split with his fiance. They also split. Rial gets mad at Vic because he doesn't want to put his chadmeat in her taco and every time he flirts with her or jokes with her in a friendly manner it secretly depresses her because again, Vic's not puttin' his winkie in her kitchen sinkie. Rial meets Ronald Soye, the perfect dildo she can use while she thinks about Vic, all the while plotting to destroy Vic in revenge for not wanting an intimate relationship with her. The plan goes into motion and the ex-fiance pokes her head out of her own cunt to claim a stake at revenge and begins to conspire with Rial and co, all while unaware that Rial was the one Vic cheated on her with.

Mmm..what a perfect melodrama. I should be a fucking writer for that shit.
 
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