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The information sought by the discovery request is, at least in part, obtainable from some other source that is more convenient, less burdensome, or less expensive. The discovery request, as written, implicates personal, constitutional, or property rights of Defendant that are privileged.

Or TL-DR it "Google it." Even though they're now expected to get all that shit in an easily searchable format.

Fucking AMAZING.
 
Or TL-DR it "Google it." Even though they're now expected to get all that shit in an easily searchable format.

Fucking AMAZING.

Maybe they're using the Marzgurl defense and trying to claim "These were private communications sent to friends only but were leaked" Therefor we should completely wash our hands of it and ignore the implications.
 
Maybe they're using the Marzgurl defense and trying to claim "These were private communications sent to friends only but were leaked" Therefor we should completely wash our hands of it and ignore the implications.

COMING SOON: Soye crowdfunds that new Audi.
 
On a related note Ron has unprotected his twitter (though doesn't seem to have tweeted)

Edit: I stupidly wrote "protected" instead of "unprotected"
 
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I find it pathetically predictable the tool Soye wants to try and silence the internet, tough titty Tyrone Cleaner.
 
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Why do I get the impression that they might be trying to gag the youtubers? I can't think of anything that Ty would do that would fit that description, and the entire KickVic side has been harping on "muh harassment" for literally the entire ordeal.

It's blatantly to prevent Nick from reading off and analyzing every document. But I'm not sure that will hold up. Nick is functioning as a court journalist for such purposes. The entire point of trials is transperancy and the publics right to see. Further the Plaintiff has been publicly defamed and slandered in the most heinous of fashion. Full public transperancy in the airing of his grievances is a core part of his remedy.
 
It's blatantly to prevent Nick from reading off and analyzing every document. But I'm not sure that will hold up. Nick is functioning as a court journalist for such purposes. The entire point of trials is transperancy and the publics right to see. Further the Plaintiff has been publicly defamed and slandered in the most heinous of fashion. Full public transperancy in the airing of his grievances is a core part of his remedy.
further, the motion they made doesn't do that. the court has no jurisdiction on nick, nick is a court journalist in the worst of circumstances (a citizen journalist which is a thing and supreme court has ruled tumblr blogs are enough for someone to be labeled a journalist, giving insane speech protections) or more likely a citizen journalist and so has the 1st and 9th amendments protecting him, and courts are not keen on giving gag orders in civil cases to even the most flagarently defaming plaintiffs or defendants, nevermind some unrelated third party.

worst case for ron and monica? they just pissed the judge off and he's about to go over every single square centimeter of their arguments with a fucking toothbrush looking for a slight discrepency in how the sand grains part from the tooth brush.
 
Or TL-DR it "Google it." Even though they're now expected to get all that shit in an easily searchable format.

Fucking AMAZING.
That...that doesn't make any sense to me. So what if the information can be taken from somewhere else? We're specifically asking YOU to provide the information because you're the ones involved. This is the equivalent of asking a witness what happened during a crime scene, and being rebuffed with "well Sally knows that information as well, you should go ask Sally, the person who has nothing to do with this, not me, the actual witness." WTF is going on with this lolsuit.
 
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further, the motion they made doesn't do that. the court has no jurisdiction on nick, nick is a court journalist in the worst of circumstances (a citizen journalist which is a thing and supreme court has ruled tumblr blogs are enough for someone to be labeled a journalist, giving insane speech protections) or more likely a citizen journalist and so has the 1st and 9th amendments protecting him, and courts are not keen on giving gag orders in civil cases to even the most flagarently defaming plaintiffs or defendants, nevermind some unrelated third party.

worst case for ron and monica? they just pissed the judge off and he's about to go over every single square centimeter of their arguments with a fucking toothbrush looking for a slight discrepency in how the sand grains part from the tooth brush.
They're trying to hit the IRL block button, not sure on what grounds they could even get a protective order.

They could argue that if made public - regardless of findings - they'll be met with harassment, slander, and more while showing 'evidence.' If we assume that the messages, doxes, and more counts within the legal sense then they could file for protection.
This protection may (don't know personally) prevent findings from being posted tell the end of the trial ie one side winning.
The issue here is how Ty handles it, considering that they pushed it into the public eye and (we can argue) now has media attention, this means protective services could potentially be prevented on the grounds that to repair the dmg's on the plaintiff it needs to be made public. Considering that they'll already placed themselves in the position for potential harassment and more it would also make less sense they'd require protective services.
 
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further, the motion they made doesn't do that. the court has no jurisdiction on nick, nick is a court journalist in the worst of circumstances (a citizen journalist which is a thing and supreme court has ruled tumblr blogs are enough for someone to be labeled a journalist, giving insane speech protections) or more likely a citizen journalist and so has the 1st and 9th amendments protecting him, and courts are not keen on giving gag orders in civil cases to even the most flagarently defaming plaintiffs or defendants, nevermind some unrelated third party.

worst case for ron and monica? they just pissed the judge off and he's about to go over every single square centimeter of their arguments with a fucking toothbrush looking for a slight discrepency in how the sand grains part from the tooth brush.
I believe Nick also dedicated a chunk of time during one of his streams to specifically explain that he is protected and has the right to report on the case as it's happening so any attempt they are making to try to gag Nick from reporting about it is likely unfounded. I forgot what stream and what timestamp if anyone would be kind enough to post it for us to watch again.
The issue here is how Ty handles it, considering that they pushed it into the public eye and (we can argue) now has media attention, this means protective services could potentially be prevented on the grounds that to repair the dmg's on the plaintiff it needs to be made public. Considering that they'll already placed themselves in the position for potential harassment and more it would also make less sense they'd require protective services.
What harassment are they talking about? They opened themselves up for harassment the moment they decided to flap their gums and go public with their twitter spergs. They can't backpeddle now and say that providing proof will make them a target, they were already fucking targets. This is the goddamn internet. Free speech is a fucking thing in America, online and off.
 
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That...that doesn't make any sense to me. So what if the information can be taken from somewhere else? We're specifically asking YOU to provide the information because you're the ones involved. This is the equivalent of asking a witness what happened during a crime scene, and being rebuffed with "well Sally knows that information as well, you should go ask Sally, the person who has nothing to do with this, not me, the actual witness." WTF is going on with this lolsuit.
That argument is basically them saying:
  1. you can get most of this evidence in the public domain with minimal effort
  2. us sending it to you as an offline searchable archive would be hard work and by extension expensive
-> be reasonable bro
 
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They could argue that if made public - regardless of findings - they'll be met with harassment, slander, and more while showing 'evidence.' If we assume that the messages, doxes, and more counts within the legal sense then they could file for protection.
This protection may (don't know personally) prevent findings from being posted tell the end of the trial ie one side winning.
The issue here is how Ty handles it, considering that they pushed it into the public eye and (we can argue) now has media attention, this means protective services could potentially be prevented on the grounds that to repair the dmg's on the plaintiff it needs to be made public. Considering that they'll already placed themselves in the position for potential harassment and more it would also make less sense they'd require protective services.
Can't Ty use those handy tweets from Ron and Monica saying how much they want everything out in the open to argue against keeping things private?
 
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They could argue that if made public - regardless of findings - they'll be met with harassment, slander, and more while showing 'evidence.' If we assume that the messages, doxes, and more counts within the legal sense then they could file for protection.
This protection may (don't know personally) prevent findings from being posted tell the end of the trial ie one side winning.
The issue here is how Ty handles it, considering that they pushed it into the public eye and (we can argue) now has media attention, this means protective services could potentially be prevented on the grounds that to repair the dmg's on the plaintiff it needs to be made public. Considering that they'll already placed themselves in the position for potential harassment and more it would also make less sense they'd require protective services.
except that won't work. Ty could prove they made it public far easier than wiping his ass. the only way a judge agrees with that line of logic is if he's literally a zombie that just melted from sun exposure.
 
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That's what we've been saying the entire time, just swap out standwithvic with kickvic. The major difference is that we have evidence to back up our thoughts. Kickvic is so unoriginal they even have to steal what standwithvic people have been saying. It's so pathetic it's looped around to being funny and then looped again to being double pathetic.
 
Can't Ty use those handy tweets from Ron and Monica saying how much they want everything out in the open to argue against keeping things private?
The idiots actually OPENLY said that they welcome court and for everything to be exposed. It's going to be so easy for Ty to prove that they are backpeddaling. Their desperate attempt to stall is going to fail.
 
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