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I understand that the lawyer needs to do what his client requests, but there has to be some clause that says that lawyers are allowed to take matters into their own hands when their clients are fucking exceptional.
Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.
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Oh, but I thought they were eager to present their evidence of all the claims they had. This was going to be a glorious romp in the park for them, their day in court, when they got to produce all the proof of that monster Vic Mignogna's wrongdoing.
And now. . .it's too "burdensome" to prove that he had any actual victims?
They need a protective order to keep them from having to show any proof at all?
Wouldn't that just leave them without any proof of their defamatory statements anyway?
They're literally claiming that any evidence for their claims that Vic has done around raping literally hundreds of people for over 30 years is completely based on "privileged" materials and they can't be forced to produce it.
Good luck with that.
I wouldn't be surprised if BHBH got told to cool their jets on the timing a bit, though, or to compromise on the place, although frankly, they've provided no reason whatsoever for objecting to the place. Maybe they can have it at a neutral hotel conference room somewhere, but they'd better be the ones paying for their convenience, since they've given literally no reason they can't be deposed at a law firm like any normal party.
Hey if they want to blow their limited funds on preliminary skirmishes over discovery making dumb arguments, we know who has the biggest war chest.
Good luck holding that Maginot Line to the soy boys and pussies.
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RIP Razorfist. I think Nick has something better to talk about tonight.
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I dunno - I feel like these could be gone over fairly quickly - maybe after he gets done with Razorfist?
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As long as they keep paying him the MoRons lawyer will do whatever they want him to do within the bounds of acceptable legal practice
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Agreed. This looks like a lot of petty assed bullshit. How often does a court grant a protective order that does not explicitly involve children? (real children, not soy filled manbabies?) They are telling the Judge they want a fucking Safe Space. Yeah good luck with that. I'm thinking the Judge may be loathe to grant such an order while looking at the massive box of 400+ defamatory and harassing social media acts from Ron alone? And for fuck sake, bitching about the location of the deposition? Who the fuck does that? I'm sure BHBH can be moderately flexible on time and date. But the Judge is going to look at that and go WTF? "Call the other lawyer and work it out! It's what you do!"
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Usually there will be a stay on discovery while a dispositive motion is being considered, and Funimation is likely to file one of those, while the timing is somewhat awkward because the parties have different deadlines thanks to Funimation's choice not to have an in state agent for service of process.
There's no obligation on the parties to do anything about that though and apparently the Beard firm has decided fuck all that bullshit, we're going balls to the wall from the very start, which is a highly aggressive strategy. Just because one party (may) file such a motion in the near future doesn't mean any obligation to play patty cakes with that cunt Monica and that nasty little toad Ron Toye.
Also, it's fucking rich calling for a protective order against deposition.
These assholes have had no problem whatsoever publicly going full retard at enormous length making all kinds of outrageous unfounded accusations. Vic is a monster. Vic is a rapist. Vic is this, Vic is that. We're EAGER to go to court, we love court, we can't wait to tell our stories. Now when they're asked what was your basis for any of that they suddenly want to go mum?
ETA: something else I noticed. There isn't a single case citation, citation to a statute or a rule or anything resembling a legal argument supporting granting a protective motion. There are only two rule citations and they're just to basic shit about depositions and conferences.
So the deposition is going to be stayed until the court decides, but then, what's more likely than anything is that they just get either ordered directly into deposition immediately, or get an obligatory time and place for it.
The other half of this is just objecting to requests for production (the initial ones filed with the original complaint). That stuff is also bullshit. They claim privilege but what privilege? They're going to need to produce a full list of all documents, along with a privilege log identifying each document and what privilege they're claiming, and if it goes to court, this list of hundreds of documents is going to have to be reviewed in camera by the judge.
When they lose on that, they'll have to pay for all the time spent reviewing it by BHBH. So good luck with that bullshit, too. It's almost too dumb to respond to at the moment, but whatever, they had to respond to something and BHBH is charging really hard down on them.
SoyeBoye's lawyer should thank his client for that fake bar complaint. It's made a lot of extra work for him.
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@AnOminous Would this be around that time when BHBH also starts throwing it in their face the amount of times when Soye was screeching that they're ready and can't wait for a court date to completely tank any attempted claim at something being too burdensome?
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I was noticing that. The filing doesn’t seem to cite anything? Nor does it make any arguments to back up or provide any actual reasons for its demands? “You find fault with the timing and location of the deposition!” Great? Why? Beyond the obvious “your client don’t wanna do it! And his Twitter Lawyer says he doesn’t have to!” They asked for protected status, quoted a rule, but don’t seem to have provided an argument or reference as to how or why it should apply to the defendants? It’s just a general definition of what protective orders are and why they may be used. How the fuck does this apply to Monica Rial? The response to the document complaints once again seems to be based on “we don’t wanna!” They use the descriptor overly broad, but don’t give any idea as to how or why such is the case? The initial discovery demands were defined and restricted by time period, subject and named parties? They declare “everything is privileged!” Without describing in what way? The only thing I can see is possibly some communications between Monica and Funi? How would any of this be privileged communication? How would any communication involving Ron be privileged?
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It might be privileged if he's an agent of Funimation. . .ooooh.
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This is the point where all the claims collide and amalgamate with each other into one giant blob of legal fuckery.
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Thank You! I was thinking that, and figuring I was just being dim, I mean they couldn’t be THAT stupid... right?
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Question: Safe to assume this information was privileged. What would the implications be for sharing that information with a third party who didn't have privilege? Does that void privileged status in any way?
Ex) Monica/Sabat sharing deets with a convention owner.
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I don't think their lawyer has had the chance to think about all the legal implications of what's going on since BHBH came on like a freight train and dropped a giant mountain of fuckyou right in his face.
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More like bullet train. Ty did say they were moving lightspeed, relatively speaking, for a legal case.
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Wow, reading Ronica's lawyer response is as dumbfounding as reading Roy's tweets. I'm not by any means a law expert but I think a judge will be very hostile to the notions of:
I don't want to read into Ronica's legal strategy too much because I know nothing about law but this seems like a desperation act at best. I can imagine their lawyer saying to Ron: "dude, we have absolutely no chance of winning this, our best bet is to kick and scream all the way through and hope that the jury thinks we are the ones being harmed, if we manage to be loud enough and call the other side meanies enough times throughout". It's a bold strategy, to say the least, and it's basically the same thing Ron does on Twitter. It may be their only recourse now.
From us looking at this from an extra-legal perspective though, this is pretty much an admission that they have nothing to show for themselves, despite their repeated claims that "the truth is soon to come out". And so the castle on the clouds starts to crumble...
In a nutsheel, this seems to me like Ty saying "you're monsters" and the defense saying "woah calm down, this is way uncalled for". Am I right?
- 10 pages of copy-pasted "REEEE this mean lawyer wants too much information, none of it is relevant to the case or easy to produce!"
- The very notion that any of the requested information is not relevant to the case, easy to produce or asking too much from the defense.
- A blatant attempt to refuse any discovery at all. Like, literally nothing. Not a single thing!
- The defense that producing discovery would infringe upon the "personal rights" of Ronica's. What about Vic's rights not to be called a rapist without a single shred of evidence to support it? What about Vic's right to enjoy the career he worked his entire life to build? Any rights Ronica may have had were freely discarded when they infringed upon Vic's rights as a citizen to live free of defamation.
I don't want to read into Ronica's legal strategy too much because I know nothing about law but this seems like a desperation act at best. I can imagine their lawyer saying to Ron: "dude, we have absolutely no chance of winning this, our best bet is to kick and scream all the way through and hope that the jury thinks we are the ones being harmed, if we manage to be loud enough and call the other side meanies enough times throughout". It's a bold strategy, to say the least, and it's basically the same thing Ron does on Twitter. It may be their only recourse now.
From us looking at this from an extra-legal perspective though, this is pretty much an admission that they have nothing to show for themselves, despite their repeated claims that "the truth is soon to come out". And so the castle on the clouds starts to crumble...
In a nutsheel, this seems to me like Ty saying "you're monsters" and the defense saying "woah calm down, this is way uncalled for". Am I right?
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Ooooh! I’m having a very nasty nasty thought. One which would send Toye and Rial round the bend! As the owner/publisher/citizen journalist of the popular YouTube programming “Lawsp,airing the Internet” who has been covering this case “in the public interest”, Would Nick Rekieta either alone or with other Anime Journalists such as HerHei, YellowFlash, TUG, etc, have legit standing to themselves challenge any protective order under First Amendment and Common Law grounds? How much fun would THAT be?
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They're basically just raising every single objection that they can raise under the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.
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Their theory is pretty simple, and it basically makes sense at this point in the game: they are just trying to make BHBH put in some extra work to justify their requests for discovery. Moronica's lawyer is way behind the eight ball, and this delays the process to give him some extra time to catch up. It'll be interesting to see whether it comes back to bite them now that they've asserted that communications involving Ron were privileged, though.
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they don't have jack shit
That's what this is. They don't have anything to produce. They have less than nothing to produce. They haven't even produced the written materials preceding the in-person deposition, if I'm understanding this properly. Even if the """investigation""" is somehow privileged information-- which I doubt-- the names and last known residences of every single person alluded to as victims of Vic's alleged sexual assault rampage could not in any possible way be privileged information, being that it's very public information.
That's what this is. They don't have anything to produce. They have less than nothing to produce. They haven't even produced the written materials preceding the in-person deposition, if I'm understanding this properly. Even if the """investigation""" is somehow privileged information-- which I doubt-- the names and last known residences of every single person alluded to as victims of Vic's alleged sexual assault rampage could not in any possible way be privileged information, being that it's very public information.