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Salubrious said:
Has anyone ever asked why DSP doesn't play games during the prestream?

I don't even mean the main game, but at least something? Have a chill grinder game that he can play during the 90 minute fucking prestreams that doesn't require his concentration so that the stream isn't just repeating his 4 or 5 "fanarts" the entire time?

I know the concept of not doing 90 minute prestreams is too much to ask because he has to explain every single detail of how to tip him multiple times.
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He has to pause shit like Minecraft when he's mining straight in a 1 block-wide tunnel in order to rant about PewDiePie when he's done it thirty times already. You expect him to be able to beg effectively playing something that requires even the slightest bit of brain power to play?

Never happening, dude probably can't even walk and chew gum at the same time.
 
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Synth said:
TBH, I wouldn't really give him shit for "playing the system" if that's how you want to describe it.

Every single person who's self-employed uses every possible business write off they can to save money. He's not doing anything worse than anyone else does.

I think in his case, if you have something that qualifies as both entertainment and a business expense (think utilities -- in the US you can write off a percentage of your utilities equivalent to the square footage of the area used as "business space"), then you should only be writing off the equivalent that would be used for the business. So if he played a $60 game 50/50 online and offline, he'd technically only be able to write off $30 of that (which means he only gets a portion of that $30 off his taxable income, he doesn't just get that money, a lot of people seem to think tax write offs mean you just get that money back which isn't even close to true), but I doubt the IRS is going to come calling over shit like that since it's basically unprovable.

As for the whole "gift" thing, it can get a little bit weird. My very facile understanding of it is that if it's intended to be used as part of a job or business or for performing a service or something, you can't just qualify something that's not a direct monetary contribution as a "gift". Like if you ran a printing service and someone "gifted" you $10k worth of printers and scanners intended to be used to aide the business, then that's not technically a gift that isn't taxable income; you gotta put that shit on your taxes as actual income in some capacity.

So in that context, you might say he's "gaming the system", but I'd just consider it flat out illegal because the "gift" in question if it's a PSN card or some other electronic voucher is intended to be used to purchase a game which he uses to generate revenue for his business. But the IRS ain't gonna come at him over 100 bucks, either; it's only really an issue if it became a frequent thing because we're talking about like $10 at the end of the day.

Gift tax can be confusing, but in this situation I'd say what he's doing is wrong. The whole "gaming the system" thing though, it's something everyone does and I wouldn't give him shit over it. Everyone's trying to save money wherever they can and if he finds shit he can legally write off because of how the laws are, then he's free to do it and people are sperging out over shit that millions of self-employed people do every day.
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I don't know anything about taxes but getting a gift and then using it to make money for your business seems shady. It isn't like he is getting every game free maybe 3-4 a year, but what about that new TV and PS4 Pro? Those were (alleged) gifts he uses on a daily basis. That's way more money then a game but probably not enough for the IRS to care. It's funny this was brought up because didn't he say yesterday he doesn't even know what's written off on his taxes he just sends paperwork to the Accountant/Lawyer/Future person thrown under the bus?
Salubrious said:
Has anyone ever asked why DSP doesn't play games during the prestream?

I don't even mean the main game, but at least something? Have a chill grinder game that he can play during the 90 minute fucking prestreams that doesn't require his concentration so that the stream isn't just repeating his 4 or 5 "fanarts" the entire time?

I know the concept of not doing 90 minute prestreams is too much to ask because he has to explain every single detail of how to tip him multiple times.
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I made a similar point a long time ago. Thought he should pick up something like the Binding of Issac or another game where it doesn't really matter if you win or lose or pay attention. It would be more inviting then a static stream of unrealistic fan art while some guy livestreams his daily diary entry.
 
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Synth said:
I hope your shiny nickle is worth it. I really don't think Dave has the balls to pull off any kind of worthwhile tax evasion. He's far too much of a bitch to do something like that.
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What do you call the nearly half of decade of not paying his business taxes?
 
JamFlowMan said:
I don't know anything about taxes but getting a gift and then using it to make money for your business seems shady. It isn't like he is getting every game free maybe 3-4 a year, but what about that new TV and PS4 Pro? Those were (alleged) gifts he uses on a daily basis. That's way more money then a game but probably not enough for the IRS to care. It's funny this was brought up because didn't he say yesterday he doesn't even know what's written off on his taxes he just sends paperwork to the Accountant/Lawyer/Future person thrown under the bus?
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Not to be a dick, but I literally explained that in the post.

You technically can't receive gifts and use them to generate revenue for your business. It's not shady, you just can't do it. If he does it, it's illegal. It's not shady, it's not gaming the system, it's illegal. Gaming the system/being shady is something like having a meeting in a city you wanted to visit anyway, taking a week vacation during the same trip, and then writing off the plane tickets and 3 out of 7 days of the hotel stay because that's what you would've legitimately needed for the business aspect of the trip.
 
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Synth said:
Not to be a dick, but I literally explained that in the post.

You technically can't receive gifts and use them to generate revenue for your business. It's not shady, you just can't do it. If he does it, it's illegal. It's not shady, it's not gaming the system, it's illegal. Gaming the system/being shady is something like having a meeting in a city you wanted to visit anyway, taking a week vacation during the same trip, and then writing off the plane tickets and 3 out of 7 days of the hotel stay because that's what you would've legitimately needed for the business aspect of the trip.
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Yeah, Phil, if he's actually calling donated games "gifts", is just flat committing tax fraud. The only real question is whether he's doing enough for the IRS to care.
 
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Yeah, Phil, if he's actually calling donated games "gifts", is just flat committing tax fraud. The only real question is whether he's doing enough for the IRS to care.
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Never had to deal much with the IRS. But assuming he might in a good year get a little under $300 worth of gifted games, maybe more never calculated his gifted games before. Would the IRS even bother to go after it since it's just such a small amount? If he was using a new PC, and probably more high value stuff as "gifts" then maybe they'd care.
 
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Yeah, Phil, if he's actually calling donated games "gifts", is just flat committing tax fraud. The only real question is whether he's doing enough for the IRS to care.
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Well shit there is video evidence heavily implying that he has done this. But if he really has a tax man I doubt they would let him get away with something like that.
 
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Yeah, Phil, if he's actually calling donated games "gifts", is just flat committing tax fraud. The only real question is whether he's doing enough for the IRS to care.
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Didn't Phil have trouble with the IRS before? So they know he's a lying asshole. He doesn't make a small amount of money, has two homes, fucker lives in a gated community.
We can currently only say he's using "gifted" gift cards to buy games to write them off, I have zero doubt he uses these methods elsewhere. Fraud is fraud, and you don't wanna mess with the IRS and brag about it, imo.

Also like LSB said, I really wonder how the fuck he manages to spin mobile game spending as a work related thing.
 
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I don't think the gifted games really make that big a difference to his taxes since he still makes around $100k a year. Even if he got a gifted $60 game once a month he would only get to take $720 off his income. It's not like he's getting Armani suits or Rolex watches.

Nigel of Ukip said:
Didn't Phil have trouble with the IRS before? So they know he's a lying asshole. He doesn't make a small amount of money, has two homes, fucker lives in a gated community.
We can currently only say he's using "gifted" gift cards to buy games to write them off, I have zero doubt he uses these methods elsewhere. Fraud is fraud, and you don't wanna mess with the IRS and brag about it, imo.

Also like LSB said, I really wonder how the fuck he manages to spin mobile game spending as a work related thing.
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To be fair, Phil said he deducts microtransactions and lootboxes for games. Not specifically mobile games.
 
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You know, with the recent discourse about taxes and gifts... Makes me wonder if that is the very reason why his taxes are so fucking convoluted that he has to go to a certified public tax attorney tax accountant guy to do his yearly filing.

He's made it clear that he has people's names and information who tip and all that, so it would almost make sense that he just keeps a running log of all of his "gifts" and rather than tabulating the totals himself, he just gives a big ass dump box of paper to some schmuck and expects him to go through it all to determine tax stuff.

And Phil, being the brilliant 43rd dimension under water hungry hungry hippos player, thinks that he can skirt paying taxes on tips (gifts), the tax accountant slash tax attorney just looks up the yearly total and charges him for the amount of time it would take to go through said box of shit.
 
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Shambler said:
its been my assumption he's never actually received a gift but only called them gifts to keep up the "poor me" narrative, why are we running on the assumption phil is telling the truth about gifts
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Based on the lies he tells his paypigs, he wants to portray himself as a bumbling idiot who can barely dress himself. So fuck it, why not encourage such exceptionalism.
 
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We are supposedly from the bowel and worst places of the internet...

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Is asked to name a game that he really liked that others didn't:
Murdered Soul Suspect because it had a super good story!

And name one game that he didn't like that others liked:
Fortnite... He thinks!
 
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