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Monkey Prick said:
One thing that struck me as very interesting was Vic's statement about wanting to keep as much as possible private. He alluded that there wasn't just stuff he probably wouldn't want airing in public but also things that Monica/Ron really wouldn't want out there for everyone to see.
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A confidentiality agreement wouldn't prevent Ron from learning of said kiss and even if he did, Monica could just claim that Vic kissed her without her consent.
 
SteelPlatedHeart said:
Or maybe he does know.

Would give the whole “I’m eager :) for the truth :) to come out :):)” tweet new context, wouldn’t it?
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That -would- be a twist, now wouldn't it? Ron is totally in the know but Monica denies it so he pushes this whole lolsuit in order to finally find out the truth one way or another.

Nontransferable said:
A confidentiality agreement wouldn't prevent Ron from learning of said kiss and even if he did, Monica could just claim that Vic kissed her without her consent.
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It's not so much to prevent Ron from learning of it, a confidentiality agreement basically means that neither party (Ron/monica/funi/jamie or Vic) would be able to talk about the events of the trial or what may or may not have been revealed openly to the public. Contents of the trial basically becomes privileged information similar to an NDA.

But :) we :) all :) know: It's only privileged when it's convenient. :):):)

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Just to add, personally I really -really- do hope it gets to the point that they're basically slapped with a gag order because there's no -way- the three stooges would be able to keep their mouths shut for the duration of the litigation period. Someone would let something slip to one of their superfriends/inside circle and it's going to start circulating around which will entirely screw them over because they will be the only possible source.
 
Next Task said:
You joke, but that's really what it is. Doesn't Vic know they've canceled him already? And yet he's not just accepting his fate? That only makes him look worse! Fighting the narrative we've created for you and will peddle incessantly only makes you look guiltier and more desperate!

The internet has allowed a lot of horrible people think they can arbitrate who can and cannot exist in society. Now we're finally seeing more pushback to the idea that you can just smear someone online without anything more than rumours and dark whispers, and they're incapable of understanding how it's possible.

The problem is, even if every single KickVic person and entity has to publicly apologise, retract their statements and lose all credibility, there will be people like the dumb shits at PULL who will blame the legal system and the patriarchy and everything they can, because they won't ever admit they are wrong. And there simply will be no way, not even with the $2 million figure Ty mentioned, for them to stop every single person who is actively defaming Vic, usually with malice, based on these same empty allegations and nothingburger proofs. For those who want to believe it, Vic is a monster, and they will never stop doing what we already see with other celebrities who have been falsely accused - someone will express excitement about something like a new Broly movie and there will be comments underneath saying 'I would be but the guy who voices Broly is a pedophile and rapist, so that's a hard no from me.'

It's why I hope they really do go hard on everyone they can, not just the VA actors who personally know Vic but as many internet loudmouths as possible. Because they've created a new time stream for people who want to live in it, one in which Vic is a monster, and there's no merging it after it's been split off when truth is considered subjective now. And if someone like the orca, or Armzgurl, or hanleia, or any of these keyboard warriors who delight in trying to destroy people they have no knowledge of suffers real, demonstrable and irrefutable harm for doing so - well, it won't help Vic's reputation, but that's only with people who will never accept him again anyway. But it would at least provide a good precedent going forward that hey, maybe destroying people's lives based on nothing more than it makes you feel good is something you should second-guess.
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"Well look, if Vic didn't want people thinking he was a sex-pest, then he shouldn't have gone around getting accused in the first place!" -Literally PULL's logic
 
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Nontransferable said:
A confidentiality agreement wouldn't prevent Ron from learning of said kiss and even if he did, Monica could just claim that Vic kissed her without her consent.
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Oh Ron knows for sure (if my theory is correct) why do you think he made over 400 tweets about his fiancee's co-worker? He's salty as fuck that Vic managed to use his wiles on Monica and get at the very least a kiss out of it. Depending on how old that incident is really depends on whether or not Monica and Ron were engaged at the time, I mean you don't stay engaged for 5 years unless there's some doubts or trust issues there.

RodgerDodger said:
I thought we’ve long known that kiss was Rial? I’m certain that was confirmed ages ago?
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I don't remember it being confirmed, I just remember we floated it around as one of several theories. The ones I remember gaining a bit of traction where 1. The Co-worker was Monica 2. The co-worker was Jamie 3. Vic kissed a person unrelated to the current shit but it was reported by some one involved with getting him ousted. I think there was another theory that the person who reported had been involved with Vic at one point before he broke it off.

I'm just getting some vibes that Monica and Vic were possibly closer than the public thinks, maybe even a little closer than Ron has been led to believe. The story about Vic and Monica ending up in one of their rooms at a con and Monica was "saved" by a knock on the door reeks of half truth used by Monica to try and save face with whoever knocked on the door and possibly Ron. "He made me do it, I tried to make him stop! I'd never cheat on you Ron!". I feel like I need to stock up on popcorn, this whole thing could end up turning into a soap opera before it's over.
 
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Monkey Prick said:
I'm just getting some vibes that Monica and Vic were possibly closer than the public thinks, maybe even a little closer than Ron has been led to believe. The story about Vic and Monica ending up in one of their rooms at a con and Monica was "saved" by a knock on the door reeks of half truth used by Monica to try and save face with whoever knocked on the door and possibly Ron. "He made me do it, I tried to make him stop! I'd never cheat on you Ron!". I feel like I need to stock up on popcorn, this whole thing could end up turning into a soap opera before it's over.
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Having been to conventions as an attendee I know first hand there's only about two reasons you go to somebody else's room: You're going there because they have liquor, or you're going there to fuck. You wanna have long meaningful conversations or just relax and unwind? You go out to eat or to a bar or something so you can just chill. A hotel room that usually has one, maybe two super uncomfortable chairs, a table, and a bed (or beds) as the only furniture? Yeah nah.
 
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I saw this on Nick's GoFundMe. Who exactly is being referenced? I'm all for pointing out hypocrisy but I'm not sure where to verify this.
 
Monkey Prick said:
The story about Vic and Monica ending up in one of their rooms at a con and Monica was "saved" by a knock on the door reeks of half truth used by Monica to try and save face with whoever knocked on the door and possibly Ron. "He made me do it, I tried to make him stop! I'd never cheat on you Ron!".
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The story is so reminiscent of how a young white girl would get caught fooling around with a black boy and cry rape because otherwise she'd be disgraced. And then the black boy would get lynched.
 
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AStupidMonkey said:
Also, I bet Funi's legal dept. is just loving Marchi/Rial/Soye right about now. Hugs and kisses, y'all.
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If the Iago/etc speculation is true then they better be spreading those buttcheeks for a massive ramming, because we're currently at just the tip.
Monkey Prick said:
One thing that struck me as very interesting was Vic's statement about wanting to keep as much as possible private. He alluded that there wasn't just stuff he probably wouldn't want airing in public but also things that Monica/Ron really wouldn't want out there for everyone to see.
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On Vic's side i think they wanted a PR campaign on him cheating on his fiancee and how much puss he slayed at conventions. In the PULL r.etardation mindset that would confirm Vic must have statistically raped/molested some woman and some underage girl.
RodgerDodger said:
I thought we’ve long known that kiss was Rial? I’m certain that was confirmed ages ago?
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Monkey Prick laid out current theories, we know about Monica's hotel kiss and people suspect the Funimation property kiss was her too. Given reluctance of names being named I'm thinking it might be a third party.

On a totally unrelated point; why the hell do we have 2 monkey's, 2 trucks, and 2 Clint Eastwood versions in the thread? Stop being so confusing, you bastards, love Jub-Jub.
 
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All these rumors probably started about Vic because he was swimming in pussy at cons. Jealous fanboys,fat bitches who weren't getting attention and jaded sluts who either thought they were going to get more from him other than "hey that was great,thanks,I gotta get some rest could you please gtfo of my room" or had to explain to their boyfriend why they were in vics room until 2am.
 
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Jub-Jub said:
On Vic's side i think they wanted a PR campaign on him cheating on his fiancee and how much puss he slayed at conventions. In the PULL r.etardation mindset that would confirm Vic must have statistically raped/molested some woman and some underage girl.
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This is their exact gameplan. They are going to directly ask exactly how many times he cheated on his fiancee, with the hopes that it is some astronomical number.
 
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Monkey Prick said:
Is it possible that at least one of those parties will try to settle now before MoRon can drag them into their clown show any further? Considering that it's Funimation that is likely going to have to foot the bill on any settlement in Vic's favour it seems insane that they'd willingly jump into the same boat that MoRon have already began shooting holes in.

One thing that struck me as very interesting was Vic's statement about wanting to keep as much as possible private. He alluded that there wasn't just stuff he probably wouldn't want airing in public but also things that Monica/Ron really wouldn't want out there for everyone to see. I think that little tidbit lends even more credence to the whole "Monica and Vic were seeing one another or at one point in time fooled around on the side a little" theory. Maybe I'm being dumb but I believe Nick said he wasn't allowed to name names when it came to the "consentual kiss with a co-worker" part of the Sony investigation and purposely never went into any details about the 3rd incident that Vic was questioned about before Sony decided they should just fire his ass. I'm starting to get the feeling the 3 things they asked Vic about pertained to Monica because MoRon have been screeching the loudest of all and genuinely seemed spooked or paniced when they realised Nick had seen the "private" investigation, we all thought it was because it contained fuck all that would be classed as sexaul harassment or assault but what if it was because of how embarassing it would be for Monica to be outed as an unfaithful hoe and how it would all come off as a scorned lover looking for revenge?
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Actually Nick also stated in the same stream that consensual party that kissed wasn't Monica or Jamie.
 
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5t3n0g0ph3r said:
I can hear everyone in BHBH quaking in their boots from here. /sneed

Buffoons. Seriously, did The Farms raid PULL of all the intelligent users and leave a bunch of idiots?
Evidently.
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It's a ghost town, and the thread is the same ~10 supercluster brains circlejerking each other's delusions.
 
beardium said:
Actually Nick also stated in the same stream that consensual party that kissed wasn't Monica or Jamie.
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There seems to be two different incidents: one consensual kiss with someone Nick wouldn't name because they didn't seem to be involved at all (or want to be) and there was no reason to involve them; and one where Vic went to his room with (with a co-worker? I am too lazy to go back to listen but I think it was with a co-worker) and Nick strongly suspected/ believed it was with Monica.
 
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Clockwork Dragon said:
There seems to be two different incidents: one consensual kiss with someone Nick wouldn't name because they didn't seem to be involved at all (or want to be) and there was no reason to involve them; and one where Vic went to his room with (with a co-worker? I am too lazy to go back to listen but I think it was with a co-worker) and Nick strongly suspected/ believed it was with Monica.
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The second incident was Monica's original accusation. Being "lead back to Vic's room to 'watch a YouTube video' and frozen in place" once he kissed her.
 
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