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Are subs apart of receiving payment from twitch tomorrow? If so I can see why he's pushing some sort of way to get more last minute $$$.
Yes, subs are included in Twitch payments, together with cheers and (I reckon) ad revenue.

However, the system that Twitch now uses, is called "Net-15". This means you'll receive the payment 15 days after the end of the period in which the money was made. So in this case, on May 15th DSP will receive the money he made from April 1st to April 30th, not April 15th to May 15th. So they basically hold onto the money for 15 days.

This is why he's still moaning about missing a week of income in April because of the CT trip.
 
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A big TRIPLE A NEW GAME premiere stream is now done

DSP begging really hard for tips all 6 hours long

after 6 hours of hard work

Top cheer: 200bits

Total sub: 483
(lost 2 comparing to beginning of the stream and lost 15 comparing to the end of yesterday's night stream)

Total Tip: $54
(in which $30 of it came from his 2 European whales, Henk_Douma and Rob_Warren)

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I'll update again after night stream


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Didn't Phil say he was going to read Papavera's latest Minecraft guide before stream tonight? Any bets on "I didn't have time to read it"?

I think it's mathematically impossible to have odds lower than zero. I mean, why read it if Papavera will just resend the whole thing in 50 bit increments which he will also not read, and then Papavera can send him another 50 bits with the right information that Phil has already not read twice so far.
 
Didn't Phil say he was going to read Papavera's latest Minecraft guide before stream tonight? Any bets on "I didn't have time to read it"?

"Hello everyone, welcome to my night stream." *Snorrrrrt*

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"I'll be upfront, very honest with you, because you know me, I am a very
ahnest guy, okay? The day stream went well attendance wise, and the game was ok though I havent gone to the heart of the game yet so I can't really comment on it, what I CAN comment is that the contribution was, um, quite slow, okay? And it is bad because I need that money I really do, I need that money, to pay my bills!"

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(holding 2 blank papers) "Look, my bank account statement, it is
OVERDRAWN! I might lose the power and internet tomorrow, and that's not good! Because I need my airconditioner going or I will sweat to death, okay?"

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"So please, if you can, contribute as much as your wallet allows you, and.........hold on guys (lean-in Manual), I have get rid of some trolls, I don't know who unbanned 3rdEyethe3rd but he is not coming back anymore, but he cheered and I'll read it because it shows how stooopid he is, he said, Phil, I bet if Khet streams instead of you with the business class internet your household can make much more money from real fans and trolls, WRONG! FALSE! INCORRECT!"


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"Alawttapeepo are here regardless of what game I plays, they are here to see ME, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"


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"Someone said
Mr.Papaverae is here and @ me trying to talk to me many times and I havent responded, where? I don't see the questions, Mr. Papaverae if you are here would you please TIP ME for each of your qustions so I can read it from Streamlab interface?"


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"Oh ya here you go, Hi Mr. Papaverae, Nuh-huh, he cheered and said Phil, I just made a new guide for you for exploring a new village and the resource you needed for the Nether, it's a bit long but if you read my previous 2 guides that I made for you it should make total sense"

"well Mr. Papaverae, sadly, and I mean it, sadly
behind the scene there's a lot of things going on that stress me out when Im not streaming, so no, I have not read any of your guide, but I know you like this game and thats why I put this in JUST FOR YOU on the schedule, I will need your help, okay? Please cheer everytime I did something wrong or you have any suggestions"

"Now guys, quick plugs on how you can contribute............."


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THat's my prediction of tonight anyways........



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It's hard to believe anything DSP says about his finances at face value. If he was making more while not being in a network, then why be in a network? Sure, he gets a little bit of protection about copyright shit, but if it was that big of a difference then I fully believe he would rather take the money than the security. Obviously the copyright shit isn't that big of a deal if he's been going for a year without the network and he's gotten a handful of videos claimed, that he's then gotten remonetized/reclaimed after a day or two of challenging or whatever has to be done.

As for the CPM thing, if that's how socialblade figures it then it doesn't really change my point. The $4 CPM extreme for the high end is beyond what you're later saying is more than what you assume, and that would put him at their $35k mark, when you were saying that was the minimum in the post before that.

I'm not trying to be an asshole or start shit, but there's a lot of numbers that are just thrown around without rhyme or reason around here, and people just buy shit wholesale because there's like the tiniest bit of backing to them. What reason do you have to believe that he's making more than the minimum for his CPM? He has no audience, the audience he does have is dwindling, he has no pull, he has a history of talking shit about advertisers and endorsements, and a hundred other reasons that make him less attractive as a marketing tool. Where does this "we put him somewhere between $2 and $3 CPM" come from? Because it's in the middle and sounds nice? Three or four of his videos out of 40-50 of a playthrough will break 1k views. There's thousands of other gaymers on YT who pull those numbers. What on Earth makes you think he's getting more than the minimum?

If you want detailed analysis I would direct you to the "DSP Savings & Loan" thread... there are many different theories out there, someone predicted his Federal taxes owed within less than $200... I would hazard claiming that people there are as well informed about how the finances work as you are informed about fighting game mechanics...
 
If you want detailed analysis I would direct you to the "DSP Savings & Loan" thread... there are many different theories out there, someone predicted his Federal taxes owed within less than $200... I would hazard claiming that people there are as well informed about how the finances work as you are informed about fighting game mechanics...

I know what you're saying and I've been through that thread and I've seen all the estimates and what not. The problem with the tax estimate? You have to take what DSP says at face value for what he owes because we're never going to see any receipts for anything. We know he has a tendency to highball and exaggerate stuff, even tiny things like saying he had literally one single doll hair left over after counting his stripper money from Sunday night and buying Rage 2.

Sure, Jan.

My issue isn't the trackable stuff like tips and cheers and what not, which actually documents and organizes very well, it's the speculation beyond that and how grossly inflated some of the numbers are. I mean, the post you're quoting is talking about his potential YT revenue, with Lotor admitting that socialblade's high estimate is $4 CPM, which was like $36k on socialblade, but then they say they estimate him somewhere between $2 and $3 CPM, while also saying that $35k was the bare minimum DSP would be making off of Youtube. That's straight up contradictory.

As it was said before, it's not something that should be bickered over, but I just have a general dislike for proliferation of wrong, contradictory, or outright speculative information, that's all. I also have an issue with biting my tongue, particularly when it comes to arguing online under pseudonyms (yes, a truly worthwhile endeavor, I know). I'm in LSB's Discord from time to time and I argue a bunch with people over similar shit. It's just that when you start accepting opinions with shaky foundations or those that only have information from one side of a story, then you have to accept all of them because they're all based on the exact same amount of non-information.

It is what it is, but I just don't like it. I'm not doing it without reason.
 
I'm going to go ahead and assume that emote was free of charge, from whoever he got it from. Not just because Phil is a cheap ass who doesn't want to pay for shit; but because those are some bad lines. Whoever did it probably thought, "Yeah, I got 5 minutes to burn" and just whatevered it.

That aside, he also had to model the frog after himself by giving it hair and a goatee. Phil, stop fucking being that conceted.
 
I'm going to go ahead and assume that emote was free of charge, from whoever he got it from. Not just because Phil is a cheap ass who doesn't want to pay for shit; but because those are some bad lines. Whoever did it probably thought, "Yeah, I got 5 minutes to burn" and just whatevered it.

That aside, he also had to model the frog after himself by giving it hair and a goatee. Phil, stop fucking being that conceted.
I just realized that making custom emotes for twitch streamers is a career path more valid than what Dave is doing now.
 
I just realized that making custom emotes for twitch streamers is a career path more valid than what Dave is doing now.

Not that I'm one to talk, because I have zero fucking artistic skills; but I don't think Phil could hack being an artist. He doesn't strike me as the type who developed any sort of artistic skill (again, I'm just as useless); but could you imagine him trying to negotiate a fee with his current mindset?

"If you don't like my price, you can always go elsewhere!"

"Why won't anyone hire me?! There's literally nothing I could do!"
 
I think it's mathematically impossible to have odds lower than zero. I mean, why read it if Papavera will just resend the whole thing in 50 bit increments which he will also not read, and then Papavera can send him another 50 bits with the right information that Phil has already not read twice so far.
Might as well say you will give 50 bucks if he actually reads the guide and not ask for his hand to be held. It's the DSP way.
 
Not that I'm one to talk, because I have zero fucking artistic skills; but I don't think Phil could hack being an artist. He doesn't strike me as the type who developed any sort of artistic skill (again, I'm just as useless); but could you imagine him trying to negotiate a fee with his current mindset?

"If you don't like my price, you can always go elsewhere!"

"Why won't anyone hire me?! There's literally nothing I could do!"
Ha, he'd literally be in the same position in either job. Now I wonder if thats how he'll be in any job. Just half-assing it, making it up with lies and misdirection.

So, Dave created a persona for his online personality. Since he was isolated and really only had him and his persona, he became his persona.

However once a person starts to believe that they are their persona it can have adverse affects on their personality.[17] James Hillman believed that once a person loses their identity to a persona they become an Archetypal figure. By losing their "ego" their persona becomes their personality in an Archetypal form. However when this occurs the person becomes unstable and they are unable to act outside their formed persona. [18]

When everyone was discussing his odd vlog the other day from his tweet celebrity, it popped into my head. So I think, because he's now his DSP persona, no matter what job he does it'll have the same result.
 
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