Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

[Gehenna]

Dunno, I got the impression from the GlassDoor exit ratings that Funi itself is part of the purity cult.

Assuming they survive the Ty-pocalypse, they may well try and dead-leg their way out of it as if nothing ever happened.

I don't see how a company that can barely pay it's employees is going to survive a multi-million-dollar settlement. But I'd expect to see an exodus of voice actor diaspora and danger-hair/man-bun sound techs about this time next year...

Funi definitely chugs the kool-aid, but what they want doesn't matter. This will lose their owners money, and that is what matters.

 

[boulderblundermatt90]

I don't think it's necessarily people are saying it -can't- work, and more that the cost of pushing for it outweighs the benefit. The goal of the suits is not to vindictively destroy the lives of the defendants but to make reparations to the damages suffered by Vic and this can be done without needing to attempt to send the defendants to prison. Remember, we aren't PULL, we're fighting for vindication, not retribution.

motherfucker when did we sign up to become the holy church of kiwi redemption? we're here for the funniest laugh and them getting grabbed up by law enforcement while their buttass brigade scream and meltdown is the most hilarious shit this side of earth prime.

 

[Slab Bulkhead]

motherfucker when did we sign up to become the holy church of kiwi redemption? we're here for the funniest laugh and them getting grabbed up by law enforcement while their buttass brigade scream and meltdown is the most hilarious shit this side of earth prime.

True enough, suppose it's closer to say the Farms aren't so much for Vic as they are against the exceptionals of #kickvic. But until Vic's side does something exceptional themselves there's not much reason not to help out especially since it just makes the other side REEE harder.

 

[boulderblundermatt90]

True enough, suppose it's closer to say the Farms aren't so much for Vic as they are against the exceptionals of #kickvic. But until Vic's side does something exceptional themselves there's not much reason not to help out especially since it just makes the other side REEE harder.

All the more reason. Vic may lose out on a payout but he can literally e-beg and maybe even prove through the e-begging and inevitable victory that he's a perfectly good hiring choice while those kickvic nobodies are worth barely tree fiddy a day.
hate to say it but there is literally no reason anyone could reasonable argue against pushing this to law enforcement if possible beyond some exceptionally retarded "Vic won't get paid uwu" or "It's not that bad uwu" bullshit.

Basically. That or people who are trying to blow things out of proportion and that this lawsuit isn't actually about Vic and is actually about fighting against SJWs and #Metoo and that we should stoop to #kickvic levels of wanting to destroy every facet of these people's lives to 'send a message'.

except no. It was a legitimate inquiry and people brushed it off as "it's not rico" and never explained a thing like a kickvicer.
and yes, i'm calling you that too because you still have given no legitimate reason as to why rico doesn't apply beyond that it doesn't.... exactly like rial.

Dunno, I got the impression from the GlassDoor exit ratings that Funi itself is part of the purity cult.

Assuming they survive the Ty-pocalypse, they may well try and dead-leg their way out of it as if nothing ever happened.

I don't see how a company that can barely pay it's employees is going to survive a multi-million-dollar settlement. But I'd expect to see an exodus of voice actor diaspora and danger-hair/man-bun sound techs about this time next year...

You forget about the patent lawsuit they're in.

 

[Gehenna]

except no. It was a legitimate inquiry and people brushed it off as "it's not rico" and never explained a thing like a kickvicer.
and yes, i'm calling you that too because you still have given no legitimate reason as to why rico doesn't apply beyond that it doesn't.... exactly like rial.

Explaining it required an autistic level which I supplied here https://kiwifarms.net/threads/victo...ductions-llc-et-al.55556/page-68#post-4714108

 

[robobobo]

RICO exists to prosecute shadowy underworld organizations where it would be tricky to untangle the layers involved. This lawsuit doesn't NEED that, the people and company involved are being sued directly as-is. There is no shadow organization hiding from justice.

 

[Cakeisjustok]

One of the more exceptional things to note is Ron dropping Andy's name in the text messages, Andy being his 'partner'. Now, the only possible person he could be talking about I imagine is Andy Tuttle, as in the owner of the Tuttle group. Ron's boss. Now, I'm wondering if Mr. Tuttle is aware that Ron has been using his name and his company as a leverage for his own uses? There are three scenarios that spring to mind immediately.

Scenario 1: Andy has no idea and Ron was entirely blowing smoke up the convention's ass and using his (Andy's) name as leverage to do so in order to impede with Vic's contract.
Scenario 2: Andy was aware that Ron was going to have the Tuttle group sponsor the event, but had no idea the reasoning behind Ron's push for sponsorship.
Scenario 3: Andy was in on the act of interfering with Vic's contract because he and Ron are good pals and nobody would find out, right?

Regardless of the scenario, the fact that Andy and the Tuttle group have been even namedropped as being involved in some of the shenanigans is likely to not look well on Ron and I'm not sure I'd count on Ron being employed with them for very much longer.

According to the texts, it seems Andy was on the call with the convention and Ron missed the call due to some business issue. So Andy had to know about the sponsorship.

 

[boulderblundermatt90]

RICO exists to prosecute shadowy underworld organizations where it would be tricky to untangle the layers involved. This lawsuit doesn't NEED that, the people and company involved are being sued directly as-is. There is no shadow organization hiding from justice.

Except there is, they're just not smart enough to hide well.

 

[AStupidMonkey]

RICO exists to prosecute shadowy underworld organizations where it would be tricky to untangle the layers involved. This lawsuit doesn't NEED that, the people and company involved are being sued directly as-is. There is no shadow organization hiding from justice.

If this helps kill the issue:

It's fair to say they're acting like RICO candidates.

But as we've already seen, the lawsuit is working. Wouldn't want to pull a Casey and waste all Vic's money arguing legal semantics that were ultimately unnecessary.

If they were smart enough to lawyer up, shut up, and deny everything at the outset (and maybe not blab everything to their super secret internet friend squad), maybe it'd be a straw worth grasping at.

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

Just to be clear regarding this. Chances are Funi is not going to immediately fire Monica and Jamie. They still voice some popular characters from ongoing series. For example Monica voices the horribly annoying frog girl from My Hero Academia (which I am not sure is Funis?) They studios will let those play out to their full runs. They aren't going to make waves. And they certainly don't want to trigger weebpocalypse 2.0. So they'll keep them going... and slowly and steadily give all the new stuff to other people until they are quietly rid of the raging menopausal harpies and their legions of lies, without anybody noticing. Funi's biggest problem with Vic is they were too fucking stupid to do this.

What does the MHA dub even sound like? Tsuyu hasn’r ever really bother me subbed.

 

[Far Queue]

According to the texts, it seems Andy was on the call with the convention and Ron missed the call due to some business issue. So Andy had to know about the sponsorship.

I doubt he was in on it and from the looks of things Ron probably misrepresented it to Andy. We know from the timeline that Ron was only ever interested in setting up the sponsorship so that he could threaten to take it away later. As far as Andy was concerned it was just a legitimate opportunity for them to market their business to potential customers, and little more than that. I can't think of an immediate or good reason why Andy would have an axe to grind with Vic so it's pretty unlikely he's part of the scheme.

Even if he's somehow exceptional enough to be in on it (I mean he does associate with Ron after all so it's a possibility) he's probably going to throw Ron under the bus to shield himself from any liability. Either way we get the same story from Andy. Ron wouldn't want to challenge that story either if he hopes to have somewhere to work afterwards, but I wouldn't be surprised if he gets canned either way. In one case he tried to drag the company into his own stupid shit and exposed it to liability, and in the other case he was stupid enough to get caught and exposed the scheme.

 

[AnOminous]

I can't think of an immediate or good reason why Andy would have an axe to grind with Vic so it's pretty unlikely he's part of the scheme.

If that's the case, Ron would still have been acting within the corporate authority of his employer and they'd still be on the hook for it by respondeat superior or because they were directly acting through him.

That would be a pretty uncomfortable position for them to be in since they're another set of deep pockets and conveniently within the very jurisdiction where the litigation is occurring.

 

[some_crazy]

Ron and Monica may have 1 witness they can call in: https://archive.fo/pn2Lz

Though not sure how reliable this person would be - I scraped their recent tweets, it seems like over half of what they say is about Vic and it's all super recent (see the attached csv if interested)

 

[SiccDicc]

Ron and Monica may have 1 witness they can call in: https://archive.fo/pn2LzView attachment 761188


Though not sure how reliable this person would be - I scraped their recent tweets, it seems like over half of what they say is about Vic and it's all super recent (see the attached csv if interested)

A freak like that showing up would only help Vic's case. Ty wouldn't even have to say a damned thing during the cross examination, he will because he's professional, but he'd just have to point at the stand then look at the Jury as if to say "come on, now".

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

What does the MHA dub even sound like? Tsuyu hasn’r ever really bother me subbed.

The dub is not bad, actually. I'm sure you can find clips on YouTube. I hate the direction they went with Tsuyu, though.

 

[AnOminous]

A freak like that showing up would only help Vic's case. Ty wouldn't even have to say a damned thing during the cross examination, he will because he's professional, but he'd just have to point at the stand then look at the Jury as if to say "come on, now".

Just ask him his pronouns and then "that is all" and sit down.

 

[kcbbq]

RICO exists to prosecute shadowy underworld organizations where it would be tricky to untangle the layers involved. This lawsuit doesn't NEED that, the people and company involved are being sued directly as-is. There is no shadow organization hiding from justice.

Right. This is a flashing neon light of an underworld organization, with one member shouting through a bullhorn "we're committing crimes here, get your red hot crimes today!"

 

[Jub-Jub]

Ron and Monica may have 1 witness they can call in: https://archive.fo/pn2Lz

That's a troon who's been spouting the same line for months, won't name the convention, time or place though. Casey should include him, it'd be funny to see him damage his clients more.

I hope BHBH responds to the PULL citation instead of getting that part struck. The archive missing most of the current post will be funny and the top 'other problem' is Vic not signing Yaoi so lets bring that subject to a Texas jury.

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

Are they actually taunting the process server here?

https://twitter.com/renfamous/status/1128812591818653697

Renfamous⭐️ on Twitter: "Wait until TUG finds out that Anime Matsuri …

archived 16 May 2019 19:51:26 UTC

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Dunno if I'm being exceptional, but I also couldn't locate the original tweets screencapped here.

 

[AnOminous]

RICO exists to prosecute shadowy underworld organizations where it would be tricky to untangle the layers involved. This lawsuit doesn't NEED that, the people and company involved are being sued directly as-is. There is no shadow organization hiding from justice.

The advantages of civil RICO that would be of use to this case are already available in civil conspiracy. The major disadvantages are absent, as well as the collateral disadvantage that filing a federal RICO would move the case straight to federal court (because the defendants would immediately file to remove), which wouldn't help the plaintiff in the least.