r/childfree - Where child-haters congregate

[Pancakes-ish]

this sub might be the largest congregation of salty narcissists on the internet outside of estranged parent forums.

 

[cuddle striker]

this sub might be the largest congregation of salty narcissists on the internet outside of estranged parent forums.

if they had kids they'd be in those forums instead, I think having no kids is the right choice.

 

[Vorhtbame]

I personally prefer the term "Fuck Trophies" which is something they unfortunately don't seem to use that often.

That term reminds me of when Chris Hemsworth and Elsa Pataky were expecting twins, she attended an awards ceremony while noticeably huge (because twins), and the commentators started talking about how disgusting it was; "yes, yes, we all know his hammer works, now stop showing off your baby bump, you tramp".

 

[DisapprovingCorgi]

I feel that people who preoccupy themselves with a lifestyle choice which requires no effort are usually trying to compensate for a feeling of existential angst that they're making the wrong decision, and are in fact just fearful of the sacrifices they'd have to make in order to do what they know deep down would make them the happiest.

People who are comfortable with the idea of not having children shouldn't need to make a big deal about their decision, just as an overweight person who is comfortable with their weight shouldn't need to go full fat acceptance activist and lecture others about how dieting is oppressive and unneeded. In both instances, such rhetoric just looks like insecure emotional compensation.

Exactly. The childfree people are a wondrous species. Big power level, I used to lurk on the CF board back on the days of Usenet and ended up having a good time trolling them.

Even bigger powerlevel. Many years later, come to find that I have a relative who's Child free, although she can be a big drama queen, she's not psychotic or rabid as the more militant ones, thank God. I love her dearly and support whatever she chooses, but every once in a while, she goes on these tirades about how her CF lifestyle is a valid choice, she has her reasons, blah blah blah. I got annoyed one day and asked them that if they're comfortable with their decision, then why go on and on and ON about it? They went yet into another tirade about how they just happen to run into people who are constantly telling them that they need to breed and that they'll change their minds. Apparently they run into people constantly who are "trying to control" their uterus on the daily and they have no idea why these people just come out of the woodwork. So I asked them why are they even telling total strangers about their childfree choice, if they're comfortable with it, why not shut up about it already. They didn't like that too much. Not surprisingly, their strange run ins with people trying to force them to breed have mysteriously stopped.

I think quite a few of the CFers are spoiled drama queens who aren't happy unless they're whining about something and the other ones are good candidates for reopening mental asylums.

Although I'm glad that they're choosing not to breed, there's only so much room for new threads on KF.

 

[queerape]

Although I'm glad that they're choosing not to breed, there's only so much room for new threads on KF.

As harsh as it sounds, humanity is better off if certain people do not breed, and it takes a somewhat commendable level of self-awareness to show yourself out of the gene pool if that’s the case. Most of these rabid CFers would be shitty parents anyways so nothing of value is really lost. I’d rather their misery die out in a generation than be passed on to some poor unwanted child.

 

[Dolphin Lundgren]

After spending some time reading through the hateful people featured in this thread, it actually made me think about the way these people act while I was out today. I saw an adorable toddler being social to adults in a store and she was greeting everybody. I actually thought "I bet these childfree freaks would get angry at this and find some way to talk shit about this happy child."

They really would though.

 

[Sissy Galvez]

AITA for not giving up my table (at a restaurant) for a pregnant woman who needed it for accessibility?

Two nights ago I was out for dinner with my husband at this new restaurant we’ve been wanting to try for a while. It’s got a Michelin star so it’s...

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Not r/childfree but the top comment so perfectly captures the incels and cunts that post there. The overall comment chain is pretty awful amen r/childfree with a lot of hatred toward pregnant women and couples having children.

I don’t think the waitress should have asked them to move tables, the couple should have said before hand “hey we need a lower level table because my wife is pregnant” and the restaurant would have accommodated them. However, I also think the woman who posted this is being a bitch too because if it only took you a week’s notice to get a table at a “busy” Michelin star restaurant it’s not that amazing nor busy so get over yourself.

 

[Cool kitties club]

AITA for not giving up my table (at a restaurant) for a pregnant woman who needed it for accessibility?

Two nights ago I was out for dinner with my husband at this new restaurant we’ve been wanting to try for a while. It’s got a Michelin star so it’s...

old.reddit.com

Not r/childfree but the top comment so perfectly captures the incels and cunts that post there. The overall comment chain is pretty awful amen r/childfree with a lot of hatred toward pregnant women and couples having children.

I don’t think the waitress should have asked them to move tables, the couple should have said before hand “hey we need a lower level table because my wife is pregnant” and the restaurant would have accommodated them. However, I also think the woman who posted this is being a bitch too because if it only took you a week’s notice to get a table at a “busy” Michelin star restaurant it’s not that amazing nor busy so get over yourself.

Yeah the amount of people saying that being pregnant doesn't disable you at all was interesting. There is a reason maturity leave is a thing.

 

[Jerri's Kid]

AITA for not giving up my table (at a restaurant) for a pregnant woman who needed it for accessibility?

Two nights ago I was out for dinner with my husband at this new restaurant we’ve been wanting to try for a while. It’s got a Michelin star so it’s...

old.reddit.com

Not r/childfree but the top comment so perfectly captures the incels and cunts that post there. The overall comment chain is pretty awful amen r/childfree with a lot of hatred toward pregnant women and couples having children.

At least one of the top responses to that comment craps all over r/childfree so not everyone was pleased with it.

As for the restaurant, they were going to comp the starters so it's not like they were being inconvenienced for nothing. I'd take that over a nice view anytime.

 

[sperginity]

Yeah the amount of people saying that being pregnant doesn't disable you at all was interesting. There is a reason maturity leave is a thing.

what??? these two women are exactly as capable as each other! You name it- hurdles, long jump, distance running, holding in your pee, breathing deeply, refraining from vomiting, etc

yep, totally equal

 

[Sissy Galvez]

Yeah the amount of people saying that being pregnant doesn't disable you at all was interesting. There is a reason maturity leave is a thing.

Don’t ever bring up maternity leave around r/childfree incels. You’ll get an earful on how unfair it is to the people who work with the mother/father and how they did nothing to win time off for having crotch spawn and how it’s an inconvenience to their colleagues.

 

[Tobias_Reaper]

I followed the childfree subreddit for a while and was also a member of antinatalist groups on Facebook for years since I identify with ecological antinatalism; the main problem is there are many different reasons to be childfree, not all of them are antinatalist (e.g. some people don't have kids simply because they're hedonists and see children as spoiling their fun) and within antinatalism, at least two separate types of antinatalism exist (philanthropic and misanthropic/ecological) that argue with each other. So typical of a fringe-movement there's infighting, especially vegan antinatalists versus non-vegan antinatalists. The antinatalist Facebook groups really achieve nothing.

I also found it's very hard to 'recruit' or convert new people to being childfree or antinatalist. It's seen as too extreme because society has conditioned people for so long into pro-natalism and having children. Therefore purely for pragmatic reasons while still a committed antinatalist- I tend to support nowadays environmental anti-overpopulation charities such as Population Matters that aren't saying don't breed, but have small families (1 child preferred, 2 child maximum) over large - and this seems to be working in many countries since total fertility rates are dropping.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

It's seen as too extreme because society has conditioned people for so long into pro-natalism and having children.

Society, huh? Are you sure it isn't innate biological desire you're fighting against? You know, good old Darwinian "Eat, Fight, Fuck?"
Please, do tell more about your misanthropic antinatalist adventures fighting the evil breeders.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

The world is really not in danger of running out of humans unless we have another plague or all out nuclear war, but that's not because society forces people to breed, people just like to fuck. It ain't that deep.

 

[From The Uncanny Valley]

The only places I can think of that really push kids on people are conservative Asian countries and some Mormon sects.

 

[Strange Looking Dog]

I also found it's very hard to 'recruit' or convert new people to being childfree or antinatalist. It's seen as too extreme because society has conditioned people for so long into pro-natalism and having children. Therefore purely for pragmatic reasons while still a committed antinatalist- I tend to support nowadays environmental anti-overpopulation charities such as Population Matters that aren't saying don't breed, but have small families (1 child preferred, 2 child maximum) over large - and this seems to be working in many countries since total fertility rates are dropping.

The idea that it has anything to do with societal conditioning is naïve. Reproduction is one of the most fundamental parts of life; populations live on while individuals die off. If anything society as we know it has accomplished the opposite of conditioning people to breed by giving us many distractions, rules, and roles.

You were not fighting society, you fought the fundamentals of life and biology, and it is foolish to think we are somehow separate because of our "humanity"; as we are merely an iteration of life, and had we not bred, there would be no humanity. Of course, perhaps you think that humanity is a problem in and of itself, in which case I would ask you why exactly the non-human population of this earth is somehow so much more deserving that we should perish.

 

[Boss Bass]

So typical of a fringe-movement there's infighting, especially vegan antinatalists versus non-vegan antinatalists.

Simply perfect

 

[Tobias_Reaper]

Society, huh? Are you sure it isn't innate biological desire you're fighting against? You know, good old Darwinian "Eat, Fight, Fuck?"
Please, do tell more about your misanthropic antinatalist adventures fighting the evil breeders.

No, there's no instinct or biological urge for humans to reproduce. Just web-search "social construction of motherhood". Fairly good academic reference: https://sk.sagepub.com/reference/motherhood/n616.xml

 

[sperginity]

The world is really not in danger of running out of humans unless we have another plague or all out nuclear war, but that's not because society forces people to breed, people just like to fuck. It ain't that deep.

that's a little backwards, since the drive to reproduce is wayyyyy older than fucking. Fucking exists because it was a more efficient way to satisfy the existing instinct to reproduce. People still want babies even when fucking won't make babies (gays, infertile people). I don't know how these childfree people can say it is brainwashing when reproductive instinct is older than brains, and is as universal as the instinct to eat.

No, there's no instinct or biological urge for humans to reproduce. Just web-search "social construction of motherhood". Fairly good academic reference: https://sk.sagepub.com/reference/motherhood/n616.xml

I guess all those gay dads purchasing the services of surrogates were brainwashed by the social construction of motherhood??? reproducing is older than mothers. life as we know it exists because of an unfathomably long line of biological reproduction. humans would not have stuck around that long if they were so broken as to be exempt from the programming that enabled every other life form to exist. What could have possibly deleted that instinct from humans so that social construction would have to take its place?

 

[ProgKing of the North]

The only places I can think of that really push kids on people are conservative Asian countries and some Mormon sects.

Most race nationalists talk about how there need to be more kids of that race, but ironically don’t have kids themselves (cause, you know, they’re unfuckable)