Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

Kill all whales said:
the whole vic mignogna saga really opened up my eyes to how scummy the dubbing industry is.it showed me what people will do for money, and attention.
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You know those people who were scummy and vindictive in middle and highschool? It's generally the same people. They typically never grow out of it and you can find shitstains like that everywhere you go, not just the dubbing industry.
 
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Slab Bulkhead said:
You know those people who were scummy and vindictive in middle and highschool? It's generally the same people. They typically never grow out of it and you can find shitstains like that everywhere you go, not just the dubbing industry.
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They do tend to get concentrated in industries that allow their bullshit to spread. This weeb shit is just the perfect little incubator for their feels before reals attitudes.
 
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PomegranateKing said:
If it was up to me, every person who is arguing on the front of KickVic should be banned from every convention, kicked from every event, and given not a single penny in the industry again.

Every video these toxic people hold up as evidence cements my belief. They hold them up, screaming bad touch, screaming pedophile and predator. I've watched these videos, and I see something else entirely. I see people having fun at a con. I see people horsing around. I see people laughing and talking and engaging. Even if feelings were hurt, all those people have to do is TALK IT OUT.

Going super nerd a moment, there's a scene from Doctor Who that gives me pause every time I want to go to war with someone. In said scene, The Doctor explains that every war ends with talking it out. And if we could just talk it out beforehand, find common ground, and meet an agreement, wars could be almost completely avoided.

But these people, their default setting is "launch the social nukes." There is no talking, there is no debate. It's burn and destroy, block and deplatform, disrespect and rumor. Sometimes the other party doesn't even know what's going on. Just one day they're facing social war they've never seen or been part of before. They're tactics akin to Pearl Harbor - attack and destroy, disable your potential enemy before they can move. And we all know how well Pearl Harbor turned out for the Japanese...

So I see all this crap and I hope, I dream, of Vic going full scorched earth on these idiots. Tear them out by the root so they can never get traction again. Throw them out on the streets and shame them publicly. Make them infamous, and turn their name into a meme. Make it so well known that when someone even thinks about repeating this crap, the charred remains of those people give them pause. The cons would be so much better for it, and so would the world.
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I've come to realize what the single most important take-away of GG is, thanks to this post. Read on for the deets:

One thing true of all Social Justice/Intersectionalist ideology is that they can't win debates against anyone remotely competent and usually run screaming from them. Because they're heavily enshrined in emotional knee-jerk, even token facts are almost never on their side and, as such, they can't argue from a position of logic or rationality. As anyone who's done debate will tell you, Facts are the silver bullet of discourse and if you don't have them on your side, you're facing an uphill battle at best.

But these morons not only don't have facts on their side, they don't have a mandate (their positions are fringe minority at best), and they rely on stacking the deck to accomplish anything. The argument for a while was that their ideology was nascent, as evidenced by their lock on the activist online press, but as we've seen from almost every clickbait outlet starting to die off, this wasn't the case. They were being kept afloat by venture capital and the algorithms from Social Media.

I think this is one of the biggest reasons their hate for GG stretched so far beyond the bounds of ideological rationality and why so many of them were willing to suicide bomb their careers in the Autism Holy War - GG was a direct assault on their claims of being the norm. At its height, GG could sieze control of any hashtag, and even cursory study of the communities that sprung up involved with GG compared to their counterparts in opposition showed the Anti-GGers to be insanely outnumbered. This is why their entire strategy became "shut it down," and why GG scared them so much: Because they couldn't even survive a debate with a group of vidya-loving speds, let alone someone with clout, and GG made it very clear that these assholes weren't as in control as they liked to pretend.

With GG up and running - and surviving - they were outnumbered and outmuscled in their own hugboxes by a bunch of spergy gamers. There was no hashtag they could run on Twitter that GG could not take and gain control of. Numerically, GG was getting hundreds of thousands of tweets a day at its prime.

Since then, it's only gotten worse for them: People know they're full of shit and it's come out that their entire ideological lynchpin was perched atop a house of cards. With so many of the big journo outlets going bankrupt, it's increasingly clear that they never had the mandate they said they did, and since the only way they can win is if literally everyone against them is denied a chance to speak, they've got their work cut out for them.

That's why Vic grinding their faces in their own shit is so satisfying now.
 
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Kill all whales said:
the whole vic mignogna saga really opened up my eyes to how scummy the dubbing industry is.it showed me what people will do for money, and attention.
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Anime dubbing may be a niche industry, but it still falls under the broad umbrella of "entertainment" - and we all know just how scummy the more mainstream elements of the entertainment industry are.
 
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Jaimas said:
I've come to realize what the single most important take-away of GG is, thanks to this post. Read on for the deets:

One thing true of all Social Justice/Intersectionalist ideology is that they can't win debates against anyone remotely competent and usually run screaming from them. Because they're heavily enshrined in emotional knee-jerk, even token facts are almost never on their side and, as such, they can't argue from a position of logic or rationality. As anyone who's done debate will tell you, Facts are the silver bullet of discourse and if you don't have them on your side, you're facing an uphill battle at best.

But these morons not only don't have facts on their side, they don't have a mandate (their positions are fringe minority at best), and they rely on stacking the deck to accomplish anything. The argument for a while was that their ideology was nascent, as evidenced by their lock on the activist online press, but as we've seen from almost every clickbait outlet starting to die off, this wasn't the case. They were being kept afloat by venture capital and the algorithms from Social Media.

I think this is one of the biggest reasons their hate for GG stretched so far beyond the bounds of ideological rationality and why so many of them were willing to suicide bomb their careers in the Autism Holy War - GG was a direct assault on their claims of being the norm. At its height, GG could sieze control of any hashtag, and even cursory study of the communities that sprung up involved with GG compared to their counterparts in opposition showed the Anti-GGers to be insanely outnumbered. This is why their entire strategy became "shut it down," and why GG scared them so much: Because they couldn't even survive a debate with a group of vidya-loving speds, let alone someone with clout, and GG made it very clear that these assholes weren't as in control as they liked to pretend.

With GG up and running - and surviving - they were outnumbered and outmuscled in their own hugboxes by a bunch of spergy gamers. There was no hashtag they could run on Twitter that GG could not take and gain control of. Numerically, GG was getting hundreds of thousands of tweets a day at its prime.

Since then, it's only gotten worse for them: People know they're full of shit and it's come out that their entire ideological lynchpin was perched atop a house of cards. With so many of the big journo outlets going bankrupt, it's increasingly clear that they never had the mandate they said they did, and since the only way they can win is if literally everyone against them is denied a chance to speak, they've got their work cut out for them.

That's why Vic grinding their faces in their own shit is so satisfying now.
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Don't forget the Sokal Squared hoax that came out late last year. Shows the intellectual underpinnings of their movement to be indistinguishable from utter bullshit, manufactured out of whole cloth.
 
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yeah the mainstream entertainment industry is filled with scummy people.
N1bbaN3rd said:
Anime dubbing may be a niche industry, but it still falls under the broad umbrella of "entertainment" - and we all know just how scummy the more mainstream elements of the entertainment industry are.
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yeah the mainstream entertainment industry is filled with scummy people.
 
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Bullshit Fucked said:
He's shilling so hard for his Patreon on twitter and he has literally *nothing*.

His reward goal for $300 p/m is fucking ridiculous and ironic as well considering all this shit.

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Dumpster dived waifu said:
But cheap trick is a stand specifically designed to lie and create paranoia in its victim (and make them do things they dont want to in hopes of getting it to go away). How the fuck does this one work?
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Do we have to meme for them now? Just change the text to "We'll get you your job back, don't worry, all you have to do is sue," and it'd make 10x more sense from their perspective.
 
Jaimas said:
I think this is one of the biggest reasons their hate for GG stretched so far beyond the bounds of ideological rationality and why so many of them were willing to suicide bomb their careers in the Autism Holy War - GG was a direct assault on their claims of being the norm. At its height, GG could sieze control of any hashtag, and even cursory study of the communities that sprung up involved with GG compared to their counterparts in opposition showed the Anti-GGers to be insanely outnumbered. This is why their entire strategy became "shut it down," and why GG scared them so much: Because they couldn't even survive a debate with a group of vidya-loving speds, let alone someone with clout, and GG made it very clear that these assholes weren't as in control as they liked to pretend.
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They're strategy became shut it down when they identified the nature of who they picked a fight with. Gamers behavior adheres to a Find, Fix, Finish, Exploit, Analyze, Disseminate cycle. (F3EAD) natively as a consequence of their hobby. When you have an undefined number of people you are trying to pacify, and you're hit with a myriad of tactics until one works, and then sometimes, within hours, all combatants are using those tactics before a solution can be presented it puts you on the defensive as a matter of course (logistically it has to). Each iteration of this necessitates that a counter be more (pardon the terminology) broad spectrum. The broadest of which, in the case of GG, was the complete denial of the identity of Gamer. Unfortunately, for them, they chose poorly. Given the circumstances, I think the result would have been the same if they had numbers on their side.
 
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AnCapFool said:
Don't forget the Sokal Squared hoax that came out late last year. Shows the intellectual underpinnings of their movement to be indistinguishable from utter bullshit, manufactured out of whole cloth.
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Don't forget Bret Weinstein who is currently using his new found free time to do victory laps pausing only to piss on the dying embers of what once was Evergreen State University.
 
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Archeopthryx said:
Why is Mike O Toole saying he is a journalist? Nigga, you write about Chinese cartoons.
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This is what happens when you let 1990s anime fan autism and ignorance never be tamed or disciplined. I swear man, it's like they never think anything goes into entertainment than drugs, and then they think they can get money out of writing about it.

BigRuler said:
that's bullshit feel-good hippie talk (exactly as one would expect from dr. tumblr)
in reality, most wars end with the victor violently enforcing his demands on the defeated, and this usually involves some form of conquest, subjugation, annexed territory, ethnic cleansing or genocide.
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Blah blah blah, something something justified force, "peace n love or fuck off", "do onto others as they would do onto you", "tread quietly and speak softly but always carry a big stick" etc

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Sweet fucking lord, that edited Mega Man 7 styled sprite speaks it all.
 
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