Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

[Slab Bulkhead]

So, wouldn't this be a good reason for Funi to try and remove themselves to a different suit?

I mean, if both parties agree, that's an option, right?

I believe so, yes. One other thing to note, Funi in regards to settling needs to look at the big picture. If they stick with the three stooges, they may be forced to cover the entire bill since they're the moneybags. At that point they would need to sue the other defendants for whatever they overpaid. The only problem is if the defendants couldn't pay beforehand, why would they be able to pay after additional court costs, time, and so on. It's just going to suck even more money out from Funimation.

Let's try for an example:

Let's say Funimation realizes they've been bamboozled by the Trio de Dangerhairs and they decide to say "Hey, Vic, Ty, we didn't realize how shitty these three have been. Let us off the hook and we'll toss you a 500k settlement plus Vic's job back and a public retraction." (best possible scenario for Vic depending on how much actual money they offer). In this case, sure they're down 500k that they cannot recover from the other defendants, but it's basically a net 500k loss, but they win back a lot of goodwill from the fanbase.

If they -don't- settle, they're going to be looking at a few 100k in just legal costs unless they have a lawyer permanently retained on payroll (which they may for all I know). Discounting that, as the lawsuit continues the other defendants at the very least are going to face mounting court costs, to the point that by the time an end judgement is settled they will likely all be penniless since Nick stated that even 200k is possibly not going to be enough to cover all of the costs, but let's say for argument sake it is. Jamie is gonna be 200k in the hole, as will MoRonica combined since they're sharing one lawyer. None of them are going to have any money to pay for the final damages (1 million+) so Funimation is going to have to foot the entire bill.

So at this point Funimation has two options, try to take the dangerhairs to court to recover some of the costs (and likely failing and again will likely be another long-involved legal struggle), or eat the entire cost.


Funimation absolutely has the most to gain from a settlement regardless of whether or not they can recoup damages from the three stooges, and given that they haven't been chimping out and have been apparently speaking with Ty on agreeable terms means that a settlement is quite probable as even if they can't recover costs from other defendants they still end up in a better situation settling than they would trying to fight this out given the mountain of evidence that's been gotten even pre-discovery.

 

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If they -don't- settle, they're going to be looking at a few 100k in just legal costs unless they have a lawyer permanently retained on payroll (which they may for all I know). Discounting that, as the lawsuit continues the other defendants at the very least are going to face mounting court costs, to the point that by the time an end judgement is settled they will likely all be penniless since Nick stated that even 200k is possibly not going to be enough to cover all of the costs, but let's say for argument sake it is. Jamie is gonna be 200k in the hole, as will MoRonica combined since they're sharing one lawyer. None of them are going to have any money to pay for the final damages (1 million+) so Funimation is going to have to foot the entire bill.

I believe Nick mentioned that Funimation was getting outside counsel for this one. The lawyer they have on full time payroll is a IP guy who goes after anime pirates.

 

[Slab Bulkhead]

I believe Nick mentioned that Funimation was getting outside counsel for this one. The lawyer they have on full time payroll is a IP guy who goes after anime pirates.

So basically if they choose to fight it out, not only are they going to be out a ton of court costs, but will then have to cover for the other idiots damages as well, and pray to whatever merciful God will hear them that they can manage to wring them dry with a second lawsuit that will cost even more. Yeah, anyone with a brain will see why Funi settling is likely in their best interest. Hell they may not even wait for a TCPA to do so either.

 

[PrinceofAllCucks]

That would be the vicmeggnognahorrorstories.tumblr.com blog, that was directly cited in Casey's official response to the lawsuit as evidence to Vic's 'well known' history of harassment. The blog was just outright deleted within the last 7 days, though it can still be viewed via wayback machine.

https://vicmicknackahorrorstories.tumblr.com/ You mean this one? Cause that's still up, unless Casey cited the wrong tumblr post, which would be side burstingly hilarious.

 

[Slab Bulkhead]

https://vicmicknackahorrorstories.tumblr.com/ You mean this one? Cause that's still up, unless Casey cited the wrong tumblr post, which would be side burstingly hilarious.

This is actually a completely different tumblr, and only seems to be about a week old. It's also clearly stated on the first post it was created by a member of PULL which is amusing.

 

[Adach_Ame]

This is actually a completely different tumblr, and only seems to be about a week old. It's also clearly stated on the first post it was created by a member of PULL which is amusing.

Yeah, that was the one mentioned in the PULL Vic thread about "There needs to be a continuation to that tumblr blog to get more recent stories..." or something like that...

EDIT: Added the post screenshot of the one who created that tumblr blog

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Sorry if someone had already posted that video. But Anime News Network attack Vic by saying "We're moral and right" and "We were right". I got the feeling this will bite back them later.

 

[KittyLoaf]

One thing worth noting for those not following the livestream thread: The tumblr post that was cited in MoRon's official answer was deleted within the last seven days, (last wayback machine shows it having been accessible at least on the 10th of may) but has since been deleted. Seems whoever ran the blog got spooked when it was dropped into the suit as a source of evidence and has decided to delete it.

That feel when you turn on the light to a musty room and see a shit ton of cockroaches scatter.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

Sorry if someone had already posted that video. But Anime News Network attack Vic by saying "We're moral and right" and "We were right". I got the feeling this will bite back them later.

If a miracle happens and Macdonald served, I personally would LOVE to see him squirm.

 

[MembersSchoolPizza]

Yeah, but Funimation would probably still need to say something, to do some repair to his reputation (so he can get con invites).

Given that so many cons have had their management infested by the... well, you know the type. The SJW-y, Feminist-y, regressive left-y type...

And given that the ones that haven't, still have a lot of attendees of that sort that will reeeee to high heaven if they displease them...

I don't think that's a realistic future, sadly. As much as I hate to say it, I think whatever comes of this, Vic is done as a con personality. Remember, truth is not a defense with these people.

 

[PrinceofAllCucks]

Given that so many cons have had their management infested by the... well, you know the type. The SJW-y, Feminist-y, regressive left-y type...

And given that the ones that haven't, still have a lot of attendees of that sort that will reeeee to high heaven if they displease them...

I don't think that's a realistic future, sadly. As much as I hate to say it, I think whatever comes of this, Vic is done as a con personality. Remember, truth is not a defense with these people.

Ironically, Shane said it best, "They don't care about the allegations, as long as they get to make money off of him." It makes it much more financially savvy for them to wait on the case to resolve before they invite Vic. If every con were told the same story of "We have proof Vic did it just wait and see," and it's proven in court that they have nothing, then it's an immediate green flag to cons that it's safe for him to be brought back. Especially if one of the main accusers is proven to be lying.

 

[KittyLoaf]

Given that so many cons have had their management infested by the... well, you know the type. The SJW-y, Feminist-y, regressive left-y type...

And given that the ones that haven't, still have a lot of attendees of that sort that will reeeee to high heaven if they displease them...

I don't think that's a realistic future, sadly. As much as I hate to say it, I think whatever comes of this, Vic is done as a con personality. Remember, truth is not a defense with these people.

While there are certainly some conventions run by loons, I doubt the majority are. In fact, there are some that are remaining neutral:

 

[Far Queue]

Yes this is absolutely true, but they will have to make some kind of statement as part of a settlement. Maybe not an apology exactly, but something.

Statements can be as simple as announcing that they've reached a settlement (i.e., announcing that there is no ongoing litigation between the parties) and that no further public comment will be given. I'm not even certain that there's any particular requirement to give a public statement at all, though publicly traded companies may be required to in order to inform shareholders or would wish to do so out of courtesy even if they weren't.

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

While there are certainly some conventions run by loons, I doubt the majority are. In fact, there are some that are remaining neutral:View attachment 763457

Looks like not everyone dumped Wisdom as an attribute, eh?

 

[RodgerDodger]

So basically if they choose to fight it out, not only are they going to be out a ton of court costs, but will then have to cover for the other idiots damages as well, and pray to whatever merciful God will hear them that they can manage to wring them dry with a second lawsuit that will cost even more. Yeah, anyone with a brain will see why Funi settling is likely in their best interest. Hell they may not even wait for a TCPA to do so either.

Look at this from Funi's point of view. They can settle and get out of this for roughly the cost of 10 years of Vics salary/work compensation. They already have that budgeted, and if they actually use him they cam amortize that over 10 years and not have to pay another actor.

Another way to think of it is "saying Sorry costs them nothing but whats already expected in their operations budget." So long as they seperate themselves from the idiot VA's. The VA's face exemplery damages. No way does funi want a piece of that.

 

[KingofNothing]

While there are certainly some conventions run by loons, I doubt the majority are. In fact, there are some that are remaining neutral:View attachment 763457

If only all the cons were this reasonable. Would be nice for Vic to go, but not gonna knock them for letting the legal system do its damn job

 

[DumbestPersoninthUniverse]

While there are certainly some conventions run by loons, I doubt the majority are. In fact, there are some that are remaining neutral:View attachment 763457

Waaaaaait, they weren't going to invite Sabat either? Even though he's been lurking in the shadows the whole time and isn't visibly (Keyword) associated with the whole situation? Hmmmm.... It's almost like the coordinator of their Twitter watches people who revealed that he's up to something. Or they just hate the one trick pony.

 

[Medicated]

That would be the vicmeggnognahorrorstories.tumblr.com blog, that was directly cited in Casey's official response to the lawsuit as evidence to Vic's 'well known' history of harassment. The blog was just outright deleted within the last 7 days, though it can still be viewed via wayback machine.

Surely people on the right side of history would have nothing to fear from the law when they wanted to talk to the person who ran the totally real stories that really happened tumblr blog, would they? If you just delete the whole thing it just makes them look like gigantic liars, and I know they wouldn't want to be known as that.

 

[mindlessobserver]

The Tumblr blog is not "gone" either. Tumblr will hand it over if served a supoena. And I bet the idiot behind it did not follow proper internet opsec and will be found relatively quickly. And again it will either be MoRons lawyer or Funimations lawyer who will dox them and drag them into this. Ty and vic dont need to know who they are. Their only job is to say it's all bullshit. The defense needs to prove the truth of it and who wrote it, and barring that try and blame the mess on the person behind the tumblr blog and PULL thread.

 

[Jub-Jub]

Would a Funimation settlement now only protect themselves from the actions of the other three dummy's currently in the suit? What happens if after settlement it's found that Sabat or other agents were using vice principal status to pressure more cons, etc? Or would Ty get Funi's information first and increase settlement costs as more agents are found doing illegal shit?