[Confirmed] Chris's recent Walmart altercation - Updated

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soIregistered said:
But you can be arrested for the same offense. If you commit an assault in public, you can be arrested for it, regardless of whether or not you did the exact same thing a week ago!
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You have correctly identified the issue that creates humor when one reads the original statement. I congratulate you.
 
the next logical step is for him to attempt to take a walmart employee or gamestop employee hostage and go hole up in the closed down Game Place
 
Pretty sure Chris is too dumb to even know what double jeopardy is, much less misconstrue the meaning of it. I can imagine that if you asked him about it, he would probably say that he likes Wheel of Fortune better :stupid:
 
Chris is macing people now? What happened to the sweet innocent Chris that would run people over with his car? (:_(
 
Satan said:
Chris is macing people now? What happened to the sweet innocent Chris that would run people over with his car? (:_(
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Or create people he disliked in Soul Caliber 3 and beat them up.
 
soIregistered said:
But you can be arrested for the same offense. If you commit an assault in public, you can be arrested for it, regardless of whether or not you did the exact same thing a week ago!
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There seems to be some misunderstanding between what "The same offense" means in this context. "Offense" refers to the individual crime for which the person was arrested, say "Dangerous Gas - Unlawful Release on Dec. 26th at GameStop in Charlottesville Fashion Square Mall" if Chris does the exact same thing a week later at "Ruckersville Wal-Mart" It's not the same offense, otherwise anyone who's ever been tried for murder and acquitted would basically be impossible to convict for Murder ever again.
tl;dr If Chris Maced Someone at Wal-Mart today it would not be Double Jeopardy to try him for it seperately.
EDIT: I think @Objection! explained it a little better than I did.
 
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Relax Guy said:
I wonder what is driving this. Is it really just Sonic Boom's blue appendages?
Or could the lack of responses to his Apology Letters be causing additional resentment to build up towards the establishments that have banned him?
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The blue arms are a proxy and a catch-all for Chris's problems. He has been suffering under an incredible amount of (legitimate) stress following the death of his father, the fire that consumed his house, and most importantly, the combination of these two events that left him alone in a rent house with his mother. People who suffer from autism crave the routine, day to day existence. He had this until it the beginning of last year. I do not find it coincidental that it was around the same time that he first noticed that Sonic's arms had changed colors.

Chris had undoubtedly gone through many changes in that past, but his anchor of Sanic remained someone that he could cling to during his vidya sessions, despite the hostility of the outside world. Once his life started to fall apart yet again, the character he always relied on no longer fit his childhood perception. He did some basic, childhood level projection. His life did suck because of circumstance, while at the same time he perceived that his childhood friend had abandoned him. He made the basic mistake that the change in Sonic created his new, terrible reality.

I know that most of this has been covered before to some degree, but I felt the need to state my professional analysis. One of these days I'd love to discuss the psychological roots of Barbs hoarding if the appropriate opportunity presents itself.
 
Chaoslord said:
If this is true....all I can say is this: Chris needs fucking help. Professional help. He's not going to learn on his own at this point from his mistakes.
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Clearly . he needs to be restrained at this point. It's gone from "local freak" to "actual menace" with the whole new macing-people at random thing.

I mean it was insane when he tried to run Snyder over with his car. But as crazy as it sounds , it was not as scary since he literally hated Snyder and perceived him as someone who made his life a hell. Snyder , in Chris's twisted view of the world was an actual nemesis of some sort. And Snyder DID hate Chris , just not in the conspiracy way Chris perceived.

What's scary NOW is that he's attacking random people who have done NOTHING to him at all.
He maces random gamestop employees , harasses Sega representatives , and now threatens to mace random employees at Walmart.

This is escalating in a pretty bad way.
 
HawkerHurricane said:
There seems to be some misunderstanding between what "The same offense" means in this context. "Offense" refers to the individual crime for which the person was arrested, say "Dangerous Gas - Unlawful Release on Dec. 26th at GameStop in Charlottesville Fashion Square Mall" if Chris does the exact same thing a week later at "Ruckersville Wal-Mart" It's not the same offense, otherwise anyone who's ever been tried for murder and acquitted would basically be impossible to convict for Murder ever again.
tl;dr If Chris Maced Someone at Wal-Mart today it would not be Double Jeopardy to try him for it.
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That and he hasn't been tried for the first incident yet. I don't think anybody really thinks double jeopardy applies in any way.
 
Chaoslord said:
If this is true....all I can say is this: Chris needs fucking help. Professional help. He's not going to learn on his own at this point from his mistakes.
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I dunno man, as much as I think he needs help (and he needs it bad) I get the feeling that he'll either not take anything to heart. Or just cause the psychiatrist to break down and cry.

Either way, if this does turn out to be true (and considering that this is Chris we're talking about), this will be a shock.
 
serdog said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Jeopardy_Clause

Basicly if your aquited you can not be recharged with the same offense or on which has all the same elements of the offense
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Okay, no.
You cannot be recharged and retried for the same OFFENSE. Offense in this case might be better said as incident. If a guy named Bob was murdered and they arrested me and tried me for it, but declared me not guilty, I can walk out of that court and tell the press exactly how I killed him and why I ate some of his body parts and they can't do anything to me in CRIMINAL court. If I leave that press junket and kill a guy named Steve, I'm going to be arrested and put on trial for Steve's murder and it's not double jeopardy even though it's the same crime.
 
Objection! said:
Okay, no.
You cannot be recharged and retried for the same OFFENSE. Offense in this case might be better said as incident. If a guy named Bob was murdered and they arrested me and tried me for it, but declared me not guilty, I can walk out of that court and tell the press exactly how I killed him and why I ate some of his body parts and they can't do anything to me in CRIMINAL court. If I leave that press junket and kill a guy named Steve, I'm going to be arrested and put on trial for Steve's murder and it's not double jeopardy even though it's the same crime.
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Thank you for spelling this out. I wish the OP was correct re: double jeopardy. If he was, then I would have never received another speeding ticket after I got the first one at age 16. Life would have been so much easier and cheaper for me.
 
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