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[Nacho Man Randy Salsa]

That's a very good question because there's really no clear answer. It would take years to hash out all the intricacies of it because there's no precedent for anything like this. I couldn't even begin to speculate on what the actual 'end game' of this entire fiasco is going to be, but I would say that anyone expecting to see Obama thrown behind bars is being agonizingly optimistic. I expect some very serious repercussions for this, I expect quite a few people to wind up in jail, but I couldn't possibly imagine throwing the previous President into a jail cell would be something that would occur.

The civil unrest from that alone would be a nightmare, and if it were up to me I'd make certain that his Presidency went down as a stain on the history of the country in a way that the history books wouldn't ever forget, but for the sake of not kicking off some kind of "imprison the next guy" war, I'd go out of my way to try and keep him away from a cell if it was at all possible.

Pragmatically I wouldn't want him in bars just because of the chimp outs that would occur. I know, I know, people like to watch things burn, but in reality a country wide race riot would not be worth it.

 

[SmileyTimeDayCare]

As was noted a couple pages back, a few days ago the Krassenstein brothers "voluntarily" deactivated their Twitter accounts, which raised a few eyebrows that there was something coming their way.

And it has.

S to spit on the grave.

I fucking called it! It is on KF(in this thread as it happens)! I knew these fuckers were using bot traffic to prop up their accounts and site(not that it was that hard to deduce)! Holy shit! So we know one part is true if the second part is true they've been defrauding their advertisers!

This could turn into a real shit storm for them and they might not just get to give money back this time. We might even get to find out who is funding them!

Holy shit...this made my fucking day.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Lol, okay.

That's a very good question because there's really no clear answer. It would take years to hash out all the intricacies of it because there's no precedent for anything like this. I couldn't even begin to speculate on what the actual 'end game' of this entire fiasco is going to be, but I would say that anyone expecting to see Obama thrown behind bars is being agonizingly optimistic. I expect some very serious repercussions for this, I expect quite a few people to wind up in jail, but I couldn't possibly imagine throwing the previous President into a jail cell would be something that would occur.

The civil unrest from that alone would be a nightmare, and if it were up to me I'd make certain that his Presidency went down as a stain on the history of the country in a way that the history books wouldn't ever forget, but for the sake of not kicking off some kind of "imprison the next guy" war, I'd go out of my way to try and keep him away from a cell if it was at all possible.

I don’t study law but is there laws that can charge a former president or politician of a crime they commit while in office after they are no longer in office?

 

[SmileyTimeDayCare]

Lol, okay.

I don’t study law but is there laws that can charge a former president or politician of a crime they commit while in office after they are no longer in office?

Yes. If the statute of limitations isn't up. That's what CNN, MSNBC, and fags like Farron Cousins have been salivating over RE: a bill that a couple of DNC members were trying to put in to remove the time limit for crimes committed by a president.

Once you are out you are indictable.

The only reason Bush Jr is isn't in jail is because Obama wouldn't go after him and the time limit expired. I have a feeling Trump won't extend that same courtesy.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Yes. If the statute of limitations isn't up. That's what CNN, MSNBC, and fags like Farron Cousins have been salivating over RE: a bill that a couple of DNC members were trying to put in to remove the time limit for crimes committed by a president.

Once you are out you are indictable.

The only reason Bush Jr is isn't in jail is because Obama wouldn't go after him and the time limit expired. I have a feeling Trump won't extend that same courtesy.

That’s always been a curiosity for me regarding political law as I wonder if politicians can be jailed after they aren’t in office anymore.

I know this is a very optimistically autistic example I had a while back, but say Obama was outed as a legitimate rapist who abuse his power by forcing women to have sex with him in order to advance his political career and cover it up, would it be up to Trump to have Obama be indicated for that?

 

[bippu_as_fuck_ls400]

Let's not forget the Krassensteins did an AMA on reddit and they even got blown out over there.

 

[SmileyTimeDayCare]

They put up an OP-ED declaring themselves innocent(they seem to always do that when caught) on their bot fed site. They were framed looool. OMFG Huge brains.


https://hillreporter.com/op-ed-krassensteins-respond-to-twitter-suspension-by-the-krassenstein-brothers-37041

The first thing that went through our heads was that ‘this is some sort of mistake,’ so we contacted our main press contact at Twitter to inquire. All that the friendly woman was able to provide us with was their official press statement that had already been sent to other press outlets such as The Daily Beast and Fox News. It read as follows:

“The Twitter Rules to apply to everyone. Operating multiple fake accounts and purchasing account interactions are strictly prohibited. Engaging in these behaviors will result in permanent suspension from the service.”

The problem with these statements is that we never did any of this. We never “purchased account interactions,” nor did we ever “sell usernames” or buy usernames. We did operate multiple accounts, but there were only a few of them and they were not used to “mislead” or “manipulate Twitter.” If Twitter investigated this thoroughly they would clearly see this.


This is what we DID do:

1. We, or immediate family members and/or business partners operated multiple Twitter accounts in a 100% non-manipulative or misleading way. These, however, ONLY included @EdKrassen, which is Ed Krassenstein’s personal account; @Krassenstein, which is Brian Krassenstein’s personal account; @KrassenCast, which is the official KrassenCasts podcast account; and two additional accounts: @kstein2020 & @FrankKern20, both of which were used specifically to track threatening tweets by others, targeted at us and/or our families (more on this below).
2. In addition to this, we have run other Twitter accounts in the past for various businesses and projects, which we have not logged into for years. None of them were misleading or manipulative in any way. There was one Twitter account used named “Impeach Donald Trump” but we had deactivated it well prior to the suspension, and it was never used to deceive, mislead, or manipulate.
3. We NEVER, and we want to make this as clear as day, ever bought or sold ANY Twitter accounts or interactions. We swear on our graves that this is 100% true.

The two Twitter accounts mentioned above (@kstein2020 @FrankKern20) were old accounts. One was 12 years old and was an account we had used to tweet about an old Android video game system called the OUYA when we ran a news site about the system. The other account was 2 years old and one of us used it on our phones to track threats that people who had blocked our personal and business accounts were making toward us and our families. The FBI is aware of these threats.





Over the past 2 1/2 years as our tweets became more and more political in nature, people began posting our phone numbers, our wives phone numbers, our home addresses, and photos of our homes, neighborhoods, and children. These users had blocked us and the only way to see Tweet-replies that they were making to others was to use another account. We were in constant communication with a contact at the FBI who we would send the threats that we had receive to. We had sent the FBI multiple death threats we had received in the mail, from people whom we believe got our address from others on Twitter. This is the primary reason we used these two additional accounts. On a few other occasions we used them as anonymous contacts for stories we were working on for this very publication regarding social media issues. Again we never used them to manipulate or mislead anyone.


Note: People might ask why we didn’t just use “incognito mode” to track threatening tweets. There is a simple answer. In incognito mode, you can’t view a user’s tweet replies, rather just their normal tweets. There would be large Twitter threads about us, and it was virtually impossible to track certain individuals who consistently posted our personal information, without having an account logged in that wasn’t blocked by these users.


We have long defended Twitter’s actions of banning and suspending users, and our stance still remains the same. Twitter, as a private company, has every right to ban whoever they choose, including us. We would, however, appreciate that Twitter reviews our suspension and issues a correction in regards to their comments about us buying or selling Twitter accounts or interactions. This is 100% false, and if Twitter believes they have evidence to prove otherwise, we ask and encourage them to release these details to the media.


There are all sorts of conspiracy theories spreading around Twitter as to what happened. One even involves Jacob Wohl, who happened to call us about 30 minutes after we were banned, telling us that we should “ban together” with him to fight internet and Twitter censorship.


Twitter User Molly Jong-Fast shared an image reportedly posted by Wohl soon after we were banned. There is little evidence pointing to Wohl, and he is known to try and take credit for any little thing he can.





Others such as ThinkProgress founder Judd Legum seems to think that we are linked to a bunch of Twitter bots who attacked him for tweeting against us. This is absurd. Again I will reiterate that we have never used any automated services or bots, other than TweetDeck and Manage Flitter (about 3 years ago when the service was permitted by Twitter). Twitter should be able to verify all this as well.





There are others who think that Twitter is trying to make an example out of us, after President Trump has accused them of constantly suspending conservative accounts. We don’t buy into this. We simply hope that this was a mistake and believe that Twitter will investigate and hopefully correct it. If not, then we will still be active online. We have faith in Twitter doing the right thing.


We have both always stayed up to date on Twitter rules and were 100% sure to comply with them. That’s why all of this is so confusing.

Why aren't they getting thousands of shares? Thousands of comments? You know...like they did on Twitter? Hmm...A paltry 1k likes from their following of millions?

 

[haurchefant]

You'd think the incestuous gay twins would be progressive enough for twitter. Will I have to write them a happy ending in my epic Daily Show fanfiction?

 

[Marissa Moira]

Like an anime girl who tried to make her boobs bigger with tissues, Krassensteins were BTFO so hard, that Trump-Senpai will never notice them again.

 

[Rei is shit]

So this is pretty crazy

https://twitter.com/lachlan/status/1131728824700428288

Lachlan Markay on Twitter: "There are so many great Krassenstein memo…

archived 24 May 2019 10:11:21 UTC

archive.fo

also trump did 5/23

 

[Marissa Moira]

So this is pretty crazy

https://twitter.com/lachlan/status/1131728824700428288

Lachlan Markay on Twitter: "There are so many great Krassenstein memo…

archived 24 May 2019 10:11:21 UTC

archive.fo

also trump did 5/23
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Wait there seriously is a fucking third Krassenstein brother?!

 

[TowinKarz]

Media's narrative that the Obama administration was scandal free

Media : Obama stated he HAD a scandal-free White House. Since none of the prosecutions and indictments even began to be processed until late 2019 - early 2020, his statement was TRUE at the time and the use of past-tense indicates it COULD change.

Never underestimate the cognitive dissonance of entrenched ideologues.

The only member of the #Resistance that I sadly knew of was Keith Olbermann. What a tard and these guys are tards as well.

What street corner is ol' Kieth barking on these days? I haven't heard much from him lately, so I assume that means he's once again been fired? Or just demoted to ranting about Russian Agents late at night on the Food Network?

 

[Flexo]

Media : Obama stated he HAD a scandal-free White House. Since none of the prosecutions and indictments even began to be processed until late 2019 - early 2020, his statement was TRUE at the time and the use of past-tense indicates it COULD change.

Never underestimate the cognitive dissonance of entrenched ideologues.

Hmm... by that logic Trump is going to get a scandal-free presidency isn't he?

 

[GrungyLawnChlorinate]

Very true. However one can notice that something odd went down with Occupy. It started off with your generic commies, hippies and idealists protesting, but midway in, a bunch of crazy rainbow haired feminists and lgbtbbq harpies straight out of a tumblr parody show up and start hollering about cishet white males and it quickly and conveniently deviates away from criticizing the rich and pointless bailouts, and they turn it into a social justice issue, and it all falls apart quite quickly soon after.

I hate to sound like a conspiracy pusher, but it honestly does feel like its something the rich purposely puppeteered to get the heat off them and onto right wing scapegoats and oppressor spooks, which is why it seems so many neocons act like de-fanged democrat puppies now and rich farts are now conveniently liberal or more so than before while sponsoring protest groups and new controversies to steer attention away from their own corruption. You hardly see classical communism-style hippieism among protests that would screech about all rich folk being corrupt and Hollywood being the new-age opium of the masses, instead they praise the rich for being on the right side of history and praise Hollywood for parroting all the liberal-approved opinions.

Isn't Occupy stuff Soros-funded still?

 

[Jigglyjogglers]

I'd still like to see some of the bigger claims come from a source that wasn't "Gene said", like any of the outraged claimed to have been directed at TOS. I've never seen a single vintage OP/ED or letter to the editor or even a weekly tv listing saying "Star Trek isn't on tonight because Kirk kisses a darkie".

One of Shatner's Trek-centric autobiographies said that the rumors they got tons of hate mail over the Uhura kiss were just that... rumors. Apparently the most negative letter they got over it was from a self-admitted racist who nevertheless said that if he was in Kirk's place he would've kissed her too. So hey turns out that SJWs have been manufacturing controversy since before the internet.

I couldn't even begin to speculate on what the actual 'end game' of this entire fiasco is going to be, but I would say that anyone expecting to see Obama thrown behind bars is being agonizingly optimistic. I expect some very serious repercussions for this, I expect quite a few people to wind up in jail, but I couldn't possibly imagine throwing the previous President into a jail cell would be something that would occur.

One of the saddest "Agree" ratings I have ever given.

 

[It's HK-47]

WAR is PEACE
FREEDOM is SLAVERY
IGNORANCE is STRENGTH
DECLASSIFICATION is COVERUP

Imagine drinking so much glue as a kid that you think this makes sense.

 

[Dracula's Spirit Animal]

This isn't an old theory.

I have a friend (older than me; sadly he went insane with the TDS). He lived through Reagan and kept pushing, during the Bush II years, an excuse reason for why the Democrats were so feckless and spineless and it going back to the Reagan years.

He argued that power in the Democrat Party, typically flows out of Congress; which until 1994 was held exclusively by the Democrats in terms of majorities. The elite DNC folks long gave up on the White House in favor of making sure they kept control over Congress and the Supreme Court. IE let the Republicans have custody of the TV set, we control the remote control.

This was especially true under Reagan, he argued. The Democrat elites didn't want the Presidency; they had just enough power to feel like a big man by controlling Congress and having moderate control over the Supreme Court. They didn't want to deal with the bullshit of having one of their own as President, since that meant they then had actual fucking responsibility to the entire country. The DNC elites are OK with dealing with responsibilities to their local constituents and the donor class. But being President means promising AND delivering on shit.

This was a big thing, especially among the limousine liberal set. They ran losers like Mondale and Dukakis, who had the same hive mind but who were basically ringers ran because they had to run someone but who's defeat would not cause the elites any problems.

This blasé attitude helped spark a lot of problems with Blue Dog/Neoliberal Democrats and the progressive wing that led to the rise of Bill Clinton. Clinton represented the wing of the party that didn't want to concede to the notion that the White House was property of the GOP. They wanted EVERYTHING, especially as total control over the Supreme Court slipped through the left's hands.

But it leads to the disconnect of sorts that the Democrat brain trust in Congress care about themselves first, President second. This carries over to the Blue Dogs and other DINOs like Joe Lieberman; they only care about preserving their own seats and their committee positions and control over their Houses of Congress.

Nancy is part of this, as she knows she's reaching the twilight years of her career in politics. She's hit her glass ceiling (speaker of the House is as far as she's going to get) and a lot of her generation's begun retiring from professional politics. She also knows the younger generation are batshit crazy and will burn the nation to the ground if it means they can be the king and queen of the cinders. And she barely got re-elected Speaker and her heir apparent, the only one she'd trust to take over her job, got ran out of politics by a mentally ill exceptional individual bartender who most likely was hired by casting people, if you believe the rumors that the Justice Democrat goon squad actually held "open auditions" with normies to find the "perfect candidate" to run with their platforms....

Impeachment might be good for some to fundraise off of, but at the same time, the most cynical of the Democrats like Nancy know it's a poison pill that will only harm the Democrats like her in the long term in terms of staying in office.

That was very succinct, I think.

Might just be my age here, but I think the Democrats are still just living in ripples in the pond reflected off of sixties politics.

They still have Kennedy-itis. They Flop between that and milquetoast Carter-ians. The VietnamWar and LBJ (who would be a Republican by today's standards) purged that brand of leader from the party as presidential (but still do it for congressional and senatorial leadership). LBJ was too much like Nixon from hindsight.

So they flop between the Carter-ians: Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Kerry etc...

And Kennedy-itis: Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, Gary Hart, Clinton, Obama etc...

Then in clown world, things have mutated slightly, and things are kind of batshit, since the current presidential attempts have people like the following for the Carter-ians:

Gabbard, Biden, Delaney, Sanders, Warren etc...

Or those with Kennedy-itis: Beto, Buttigieg, Gillibrand, Booker etc...

And of course there are a couple of hybrids that fit into all that: Hillary, Harris, deBlasio....

 

[thismanlies]

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WAR is PEACE
FREEDOM is SLAVERY
IGNORANCE is STRENGTH
DECLASSIFICATION is COVERUP

Imagine drinking so much glue as a kid that you think this makes sense.

The only question I have is how long will it be until they're openly calling for an armed insurrection/invasion? They know that hammer's coming down and they're desperate to get out of its ever-widening shadow.

 

[SmileyTimeDayCare]

View attachment 770647

WAR is PEACE
FREEDOM is SLAVERY
IGNORANCE is STRENGTH
DECLASSIFICATION is COVERUP

Imagine drinking so much glue as a kid that you think this makes sense.

Schiff seems nervous. I wonder why. He ever show all that evidence he had that proved Trump colluded?

 

[Jigglyjogglers]

The only question I have is how long will it be until they're openly calling for an armed insurrection/invasion? They know that hammer's coming down and they're desperate to get out of its ever-widening shadow.

They also know that an actual armed insurrection would not go that well since they've disarmed the majority of their own side. They're more likely to stealth-encourage more rioting instead so that it can be unconnected to them but they'll hope to take advantage of the chaos.