Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[RodgerDodger]

I could maybe understand some random schmuck doing this, but Comic "journalists" who are getting deals from this doing this is shockingly disgusting. Nigga they're a fucking dollar, don't be a faggot and do Peter dirty like that. But Peter hitting up the youtube crowd for reviews is a smart move. No one trusts fake news sites anymore and would rather hear opinions from some dude in his room with a webcam or cellphone

Review Journalists have been doing this forever. It's "perks". They reserve the right to resell or redistribute your product into the shady black market for their own personal profit. All the old PC Magazine's used to do it. All the video game review sites do it. It's shady as shit.

I wonder if it was a one time deal or a semi-regular house cleaning that they do for DC.

I've never actually been in an Ollie's so I'm not sure how those stores look and work but generally in that business you spend more on payroll physically stocking the inventory than you actually spent on the inventory. I imagine that after a certain point they'll just start dumpstering books that don't sell in order to rotate the shelf space.

I was just in the Ollie's near me yesterday. They had just gotten in a new shipment of DC stuff, such as that Harleyquinn mask set. They also had a bunch of newer Marvel GN's that weren't there last time I looked. I grabbed some decent stuff. Some Abnet & Lansing Guardian's of the Galaxy. (But no Bendis... never Bendis!) And hilariously in a $5 10 pack of trash comics, right on top was our good buddy Aubrey Siterson's "Scarlet's Strike Force". I laughed so hard seeing those.

 

[A Man on Fire]

I could maybe understand some random schmuck doing this, but Comic "journalists" who are getting deals from this doing this is shockingly disgusting. Nigga they're a fucking dollar, don't be a faggot and do Peter dirty like that. But Peter hitting up the youtube crowd for reviews is a smart move. No one trusts fake news sites anymore and would rather hear opinions from some dude in his room with a webcam or cellphone

Ya boi pays for the comics he reviews. Seems common courtesy.

 

[Trilby]

They gave up the drug store spinner racks.but those drug store racks were how you hooked the young. You don’t go to a comic shop because you want to start reading comics. You go to a comic shop because you like comics and want to find more. Without having that initial entry point at consumer retail, and at impulse buy pricing, they do not pick up the next generation. And your consumer base slowly becomes nothing but old men.

That's how I remember it being, and it's a shame to see that gone.

Sorry for snipping your post up but I just wanted to respond to the retail specific points. Do you know why the Big 2 gave up big retail? Returnability. What is anathema to them, is mandatory to big retail. They won't carry it unless it's returnable or they're paying less than 10 cents on the dollar. Even the drugstores.

I know Diamond had a lot to do with that. Forcing itself to be the ONLY game in town and putting the original channels of distribution out to pasture.

 

[IcyHotStuntaz]

Comics and baseball cards both slipped past the point of no return in the late 80s/early 90s... when both industries were essentially forced by the market to become 'collectibles' and not disposable fun pulp bullshit for kids. Once the speculators and the manchildren who refused to abandon things from their youth became the big financial forces... it was all doomed to a slow decline. Kids were priced out of the market right about the time vidya started becoming something more than the Atari 2600 displaying three colored squares awkwardly running into each other. I think to a degree a decline was going to happen no matter what... fun vidya is fun after all... but within a few short years everything changed to premium priced special edition limited run blah blah blah. The kids never stood a chance. Their childless uncles told them all to fuck off back to the NES and leave these three variant covers and the limited edition hologram Ken Griffey Jr card to the grown ups!

 

[RodgerDodger]

Comics and baseball cards both slipped past the point of no return in the late 80s/early 90s... when both industries were essentially forced by the market to become 'collectibles' and not disposable fun pulp bullshit for kids. Once the speculators and the manchildren who refused to abandon things from their youth became the big financial forces... it was all doomed to a slow decline. Kids were priced out of the market right about the time vidya started becoming something more than the Atari 2600 displaying three colored squares awkwardly running into each other. I think to a degree a decline was going to happen no matter what... fun vidya is fun after all... but within a few short years everything changed to premium priced special edition limited run blah blah blah. The kids never stood a chance. Their childless uncles told them all to fuck off back to the NES and leave these three variant covers and the limited edition hologram Ken Griffey Jr card to the grown ups!

Yep! The same thing is happening now at a lower point in the arc with "Action Figures"

 

[LateNightComics]

Yep! The same thing is happening now at a lower point in the arc with "Action Figures"

They literally put bins of action figures next to bins of comic trades at Ollie's.

 

[Empty Donation Box]

I know Diamond had a lot to do with that. Forcing itself to be the ONLY game in town and putting the original channels of distribution out to pasture.

The original channels still own the newstands. Companies like The News Group and such run big retail's, and usually mom and pop's, newstands. These days TNG couldn't be assed to carry anything cheaper than a paperback collection of comics. Individual floppies are too low priced and too low volume for TNG to bother. That's why you see those Archie collections from time to time. Those are printed specifically for newstand companies like TNG.

The big difference between Diamond and TNG is that TNG does returns to ensure that the newstands are always fresh. Retailers basically don't pay anything for those novels that are all over the place. They're free unless they're sold. Diamond literally can't access the newstand because they'll never offer those terms to retailers. I don't blame Diamond for that either. Most of the Big 2's output is low selling trash, it would be suicide to offer returnability on the scale that they would have to offer.

Comics and baseball cards both slipped past the point of no return in the late 80s/early 90s... when both industries were essentially forced by the market to become 'collectibles' and not disposable fun pulp bullshit for kids. Once the speculators and the manchildren who refused to abandon things from their youth became the big financial forces... it was all doomed to a slow decline. Kids were priced out of the market right about the time vidya started becoming something more than the Atari 2600 displaying three colored squares awkwardly running into each other. I think to a degree a decline was going to happen no matter what... fun vidya is fun after all... but within a few short years everything changed to premium priced special edition limited run blah blah blah. The kids never stood a chance. Their childless uncles told them all to fuck off back to the NES and leave these three variant covers and the limited edition hologram Ken Griffey Jr card to the grown ups!

I remember that. It seemed to happen overnight. All these clowns who thought that you could buy money came in and every company changed gears to ensure that they had enough product, and the right product, to separate all these fools from their money. Fortunately we had Nintendo, and Nintendo would eventually double tap the comics industry.

Then the TCG craze of the mid to late 90's kicked off. A lot of neat (and sometimes poorly thought out) games started popping up. I have more memories of buying assorted TCG's from comics shops than I do buying comics. Vidya kept advancing by leaps and bounds at the time but near the end of the TCG craze you had what could probably be looked back on as a killing blow to the comics industry. Pokemon. Both the games and later the TCG captured kids hearts and allowances. I wonder how many allowances got diverted from Marvel & DC when little Timmy saw that Pokemon starter deck display on the counter. A plurality of those kids, never became comic book readers. If they were, well they stopped.

The TCG craze eventually ended with few survivors but it's after effects can still be seen in store layouts today. How much of any given comic shop is tabletop gaming now? How many of them are keeping the lights on courtesy of MTG & Pokemon singles?

As a side note: I really wish Arcadia succeeded. That game was great.

 

[NG 070]

Yeah, the "get woke, go broke" is just one of many symptoms as to why the North American comics market is floundering, if not in a death spiral these days. It's easy to pin the blame on le socjus politically correct dangerhair soyboy types, but as many people have stated, the issues stem way, way, waaaay further back than that.

Unfortunately, because everything is so goddamned politicized these days, both exceptional sides are focusing on the wrong issue to "save" the industry. Like GamerGate before it, there were legitimate points that have long needed to be addressed within the industry, but the fatbabies on both sides have completely ignored it now for the sake of 'gotchas' and other online warfare idiocy.

 

[AnOminous]

Yeah, the "get woke, go broke" is just one of many symptoms as to why the North American comics market is floundering, if not in a death spiral these days. It's easy to pin the blame on le socjus politically correct dangerhair soyboy types, but as many people have stated, the issues stem way, way, waaaay further back than that.

SJWS are a symptom, not a cause. A functional industry has an immune system that repels dead weight, can pay enough to be choosy, and is attractive enough to get competent people working for it. You only hire people like these idiots too worthless even to be baristas if you're flailing as an industry.

 

[One Man Bland]

Yeah, the "get woke, go broke" is just one of many symptoms as to why the North American comics market is floundering, if not in a death spiral these days. It's easy to pin the blame on le socjus politically correct dangerhair soyboy types, but as many people have stated, the issues stem way, way, waaaay further back than that.

Unfortunately, because everything is so goddamned politicized these days, both exceptional sides are focusing on the wrong issue to "save" the industry. Like GamerGate before it, there were legitimate points that have long needed to be addressed within the industry, but the fatbabies on both sides have completely ignored it now for the sake of 'gotchas' and other online warfare idiocy.

Yeah, insurgences of Woke shit into a medium/hobby is really more a symptom of pre-existing problems within that particular industry than the underlying cause. Kinda like when patients with conditions that cause compromised immune systems lead to them catching all sorts of bugs and illnesses.

You can tell when an industry isn't doing too hot when you suddenly see a lot of classic "get woke, go broke" talking points cropping up where they didn't before. It's like their swan song at this point.

EDIT: Damn @AnOminous beat me to it

 

[damian]

Marvel solicitations have been released, wow this cover for MARVEL #1000 is pretty packed:

Now wait a minute...

Marvel NO!:

Original Story from May 24, 2019 at 10:13 a.m. Eastern: One of the just-solicited variant covers for August's Marvel Comics #1000 is a collage of art and covers from numerous Marvel Comics stories dating back to the 1930s - and apparently, one image that traces back to a DC comic book from just a few years ago.Spotted by Twitter user 'Symbiobro', the image, which appears in the collage in the middle right hand side of the image, depicts two men kissing. It seems to be 'sampled' from a page from DC Comics' Earth 2 #2. The characters depicted in that scene are Alan Scott, the Green Lantern of Earth 2, and his partner.

Artist Nicola Scott, who penciled the image, responded to Marvel's use of the page on Twitter, asking succinctly if she'd be compensated for its use by Marvel.

The cover's designer, Mr. Garcin, responded to the discovery on Twitter, explaining that he found the image on the internet and implying he mistook its origin.

The cover's designer Mr. Garcin has not responded to our request for comment by the time of publication. Newsarama will update the story if and when they do.

Editor's note: This story has been updated to include Mr. Garcin's Twitter response.

Updated May 24, 2019 at 2:16 p.m. Eastern: Newsarama has confirmed with Marvel Comics that the image from the Marvel Comics #1000 collage cover will be altered to remove the panel borrowed from DC's Earth 2 #2. The publisher offered no comment on the matter.

I hope someone is fired over this. And by someone I mean Brevoort, he had to sign off on it. The guy that made the cover literally took the pics off of google, does Marvel not own an img/art depository?

 

[sKr0n]

Looks like Priest, after conducting interviews for the new series he will be working on "Vampirella", has run afoul a comicbook "journalist". Attempting to make a mountain of molehill and trying to make a "got'cha" moment, Priest fires back with a scathing response to his Red Herring. Priest is too nice of a dude and a really great writer I sincerely hope that this does not turn into something bigger than it actually is.

Article:

CHRISTOPHER PRIEST Welcomes VAMPIRELLA To the Real World

archived 24 May 2019 21:27:16 UTC

archive.fo

Bonus Zack video as well:

SJW Reporter From NEWSARAMA Attempts A High-Tech Lynching Of Comic Book Legend Christopher Priest

https://www.newsarama.com/45281-christopher-priest-on-vampirella.html

www.youtube.com

 

[Apollo635]

So I was watching Ya Boi Zack just now and he was rushed so he couldn't do a proper response to the this situation and hope someone would tack an archive because he suspected it wouldn't be up for long.

https://youtu.be/ZE_S09rXExM

https://web.archive.org/web/2019052...m/45281-christopher-priest-on-vampirella.html

so I grabbed the archive and read the article. I don't think I have ever seen such an obvious attempt at intimidation before. Scroll down the article to just below this

Editor's Note: The above interview was conducted via email eariler this week, and we received all of Mr. Priest's responses along with all our original questions. Newsarama asked Priest if he would respond to follow-up questions Friday by email. He agreed and those questions and answers follow.

hope this works, first post here

ETA Ninja'd

 

[damian]

hope this works, first post here

ETA Ninja'd

Ninja'd on his first post

 

[UE 558]

Did LNC get threadbanned here after his last post? He’s been having massive fagattacks across many other threads

 

[KingofNothing]

Marvel solicitations have been released, wow this cover for MARVEL #1000 is pretty packed:View attachment 771021

Now wait a minute...
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Marvel NO!:
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I hope someone is fired over this. And by someone I mean Brevoort, he had to sign off on it. The guy that made the cover literally took the pics off of google, does Marvel not own an img/art depository?

Someone needs to get a thorough reaming over that. That is a colossal fuck up. They really should have a database for their shit for as long as they've been around.

Is this fucking cover real? Because I've been looking and can't find it. Jesus Christ

 

[Picnic_Boy]

Is this fucking cover real? Because I've been looking and can't find it. Jesus ChristView attachment 771100View attachment 771099

Intriguing! I can't decide which of her poses in the boringest. I'm leaning toward the red one in the middle, because she is conveying absolutely nothing, which is really hard to do, even with stick figures. But the thinking one in blue indicates a deeper boredom within.

 

[damian]

Did LNC get threadbanned here after his last post? He’s been having massive fagattacks across many other threads

LOL they updated his banner:

 

[UE 558]

LOL they updated his banner:
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Time to check the proving grounds for any goodies

 

[Jub-Jub]

They literally put bins of action figures next to bins of comic trades at Ollie's.

Just saving time in the long run.

IDW got another Marvel property - Captain Marvel - This is what the 13th attempt at making her popular? 8 regular series and now 5 spin-offs. I'm surprised IDW got the deal considering how much financial woe they are in.

IDW Announces New Marvel Action Title: Captain Marvel - Bounding Into Comics

IDW Publishing announced a brand new Marvel Action comic title, Captain Marvel.The book will be written by Sam Maggs with artwork by Sweeney Boo and colors by Brittany Peer.

boundingintocomics.com

@KingofNothing you probably seen this by now, EVS has claimed Cyberfrog is done and colours in a week, so he might make that June shipping...