Fat Acceptance Movement / Fat Girlcows

[thejackal]

Something like, what, 60% of Americans are overweight? Statistically speaking, if you go to the beach, chances are you're gonna see another fatty in a bathing suit. Why do they need this constant deluge of "every body is a bikini body!!!!" videos?

60% overweight but (for now) about 10% of women are classified as morbidly obese (BMI over 40). A BMI of 40 for most women would be a weight over 250lbs. So even though 10% is horrifying it's still not common to see 250lb+ women, at the beach or elsewhere.

Most of our cows in this thread are of course well over 300 lbs, with BMIs pushing 60 or above.

 

[clusterfuckk]

"It is estimated that approximately 10% of patients with early-stage endometrial cancer are medically inoperable as a result of obesity-related medical comorbidities, such as cardiovascular disease and diabetes-related end-organ damage." [source]

I'm definitely not a doctor, but it's absolutely possible that Jen's cancer (if she actually has cancer--I'm not so naive to believe that she isn't a chronic manipulator and liar) is inoperable based on her morbid obesity. Jen said she had an IUD inserted to stop the progression of the cancer, which seems to be an effective treatment for patients who can't have surgery via Dr. Google. Her obesity is worse for her health outcomes than fucking cancer.

And damn, obese women need to start worrying about endometrial cancer. This shit is affecting younger and younger women.

IF she had actual cancer and not just cells that were at risk for developing into cancer, they would have done surgery regardless of her weight. (Providing she doesnt have cardiac issues that make surgery extremely unsafe).
She likely has a high count of cancerous cells and the two best treatments for it are IUD and LOSING FUCKING WEIGHT.

Spoiler: Relevant

I had excess cervical cancer cells or whatever and was overweight (Not super morbidly obese) and they did a surgery to remove parts of the cervix that were affected and put in an IUD AND I started losing weight and have not had any issues since.

I don't think the wait and see approach would be used for that type of cancer because it can be treated a little easier than other forms. Just my 2 cents gorls.

 

[rocknrollmartian]

IF she had actual cancer and not just cells that were at risk for developing into cancer, they would have done surgery regardless of her weight. (Providing she doesnt have cardiac issues that make surgery extremely unsafe).
She likely has a high count of cancerous cells and the two best treatments for it are IUD and LOSING FUCKING WEIGHT.

I don't think the wait and see approach would be used for that type of cancer because it can be treated a little easier than other forms. Just my 2 cents gorls.

It's obvious that Jen is just another obese grifter on Youtube for many reasons, and throwing around the word "cancer," whether legitimate or not, drums up sympathy faster than anything. Like I said, she may have taken notes from Chantal and very well could be lying about her own situation. However, IUDs are now being used as a form of treatment for localized early endometrial cancers for certain patients. Jen might be somewhat of a guinea pig for this treatment, but there's clear info about it on oncology sites and medical journals.


"The doctor would definitely perform surgery!" is quite speculative considering that Jen is nearly 600 pounds of wheezing, feverish, non-compliant lard and almost certainly has complicating comorbidities on top of the massive flesh apron blocking her uterus. Her doctor definitely told her to lose weight (and isn't weight loss the alleged premise of her channel?), but she hasn't in the last year, so she's digging her own grave, cancer or not.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

"The doctor would definitely perform surgery!" is quite speculative considering that Jen is nearly 600 pounds of wheezing, feverish, non-compliant lard and almost certainly has complicating comorbidities on top of the massive flesh apron blocking her uterus. Her doctor definitely told her to lose weight (and isn't weight loss the alleged premise of her channel?), but she hasn't in the last year, so she's digging her own grave, cancer or not.

Well. hormonal IUDs for treating endometrial cancer is still really speculative.

Otherwise you can rip that uterus out through the vaginal canal. Patient's body habitus doesn't really factor in to it.

The big problem is that the fact that deathfats lungs' immediately collapse when they're put under so the anesthetists need training to make sure they can vent a deathfat. Most of them have that training these days, so...it's not really a big deal overall. I'd rather operate on a 30-year old deathfat than a 60-year old cigarette smoker with poorly managed diabetes.

 

[Tesshollidaysflupaknees]

It's "misery porn" that people go on TV shows to lose weight.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

those TV shows absolutely exist for people to feel better about themselves because hey, at least they're not 600 pounds.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

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It's "misery porn" that people go on TV shows to lose weight.

tbh being 600 lbs in general is just misery. My 600-lb Life is like scared straight except for deathfats.

If only there were an easy, obvious, proven and tested way to lose weight so that you'd have a better life.

Ah well, better start talking about how fat people are, actually, really healthy. Dieting is pointless and you might catch the anorexia.

 

[JuniperFalls]

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It's "misery porn" that people go on TV shows to lose weight.

Maybe it's just me, but ... that almost sounded like the "smallfat" version of a humblebrag. "Speaking as someone who IS deemed acceptable by society, let me assure you I feel bad for those of you who aren't!" Uh huh. Speaking as someone who is deemed stunningly good-looking by society, let me say the stigma society places on homely people is just terrible, and any minute now I'm gonna get off this-here internet and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

 

[clusterfuckk]

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It's "misery porn" that people go on TV shows to lose weight.

I don’t know who wrote this insightful little gem but they can fuck off

 

[AbraCadaver]

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It's "misery porn" that people go on TV shows to lose weight.

Every group that preaches total acceptance of each other, as they are bound together by interests or similar circumstance, will inevitably fall victim to infighting and splintering of the group into “real” and “posers”, or in this case “oppressed” and “privileged.” It is the way of humanity.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

Every group that preaches total acceptance of each other, as they are bound together by interests or similar circumstance, will inevitably fall victim to infighting and splintering of the group into “real” and “posers”, or in this case “oppressed” and “privileged.” It is the way of humanity.

Well, the way of humanity in the current year.

The smallfat vs deathfat war is just depressing as fuck though. Smallfat privilege is, like, maybe going on rides at Disney World because they overengineered those things and you can! Living your best life now! Also there are many clothing stores that cater to fatbodies and you can look cute buying clothes there! Don't even clue them in to buying clothes from China directly because their sizes don't go that high.

Deathfat privilege is, uh, dying of preventable causes before you hit 40. There's nothing to be proud about here.

 

[Hellbound Hellhound]

Every group that preaches total acceptance of each other, as they are bound together by interests or similar circumstance, will inevitably fall victim to infighting and splintering of the group into “real” and “posers”, or in this case “oppressed” and “privileged.” It is the way of humanity.

It's really a good example of the paradox of tolerance, only in this instance, it's being done purely to shield a dangerously unhealthy group of people from having to listen to prudent medical advice.

 

[AbraCadaver]

Well, the way of humanity in the current year.

The smallfat vs deathfat war is just depressing as fuck though. Smallfat privilege is, like, maybe going on rides at Disney World because they overengineered those things and you can! Living your best life now! Also there are many clothing stores that cater to fatbodies and you can look cute buying clothes there! Don't even clue them in to buying clothes from China directly because their sizes don't go that high.

Deathfat privilege is, uh, dying of preventable causes before you hit 40. There's nothing to be proud about here.

I mean tbf not just the current year... every group of people that forms enjoys a grace period of courtesy, and then “drama” ensues as certain members, eager to show that they’re the best person in the group and their own particular views are the only correct ones, start sorting out hierarchies. They eventually drive the casual fans and sane people from the group and double down on True Believers, weeding out wrongthink and getting more and more insulating and exclusive.

Everyone from slot car racing enthusiasts to ladies’ church groups, to fishing clubs to god-only-knows. It is the way of people that somewhere, in some obscure fandom, someone is making snide comments about how Basic everyone else is and they’re all doing it wrong.

However it’s not usually the way of people to insist that someone who ate themselves to 700 lbs of immobile fat is the real victim and needs special dispensation in life. And it’s especially funny to watch groups founded entirely on the concept of judgement-free inclusion start sniping at each other over who is secretly more privileged and less deserving of said inclusion.

I’m eager to see where the smallfat vs deathfat conflict leads. Checking one’s mobility-privilege?... I’m trying to think of other funny benefits smallfats would have over larger fats, but I can’t.

 

[simulated goat]

I mean tbf not just the current year... every group of people that forms enjoys a grace period of courtesy, and then “drama” ensues as certain members, eager to show that they’re the best person in the group and their own particular views are the only correct ones, start sorting out hierarchies. They eventually drive the casual fans and sane people from the group and double down on True Believers, weeding out wrongthink and getting more and more insulating and exclusive.

Everyone from slot car racing enthusiasts to ladies’ church groups, to fishing clubs to god-only-knows. It is the way of people that somewhere, in some obscure fandom, someone is making snide comments about how Basic everyone else is and they’re all doing it wrong.

However it’s not usually the way of people to insist that someone who ate themselves to 700 lbs of immobile fat is the real victim and needs special dispensation in life. And it’s especially funny to watch groups founded entirely on the concept of judgement-free inclusion start sniping at each other over who is secretly more privileged and less deserving of said inclusion.

I’m eager to see where the smallfat vs deathfat conflict leads. Checking one’s mobility-privilege?... I’m trying to think of other funny benefits smallfats would have over larger fats, but I can’t.

Fitting in cars? Fitting in Torrid sizes? Showering? How dare they make everything so small! Smalfats are so smug with their flimsy aluminum lawn furniture and lack of cpaps!

 

[rocknrollmartian]

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It's "misery porn" that people go on TV shows to lose weight.

It seems like "privilege" is now being conflated with relative "normalcy." It's not a privilege to be able to walk without excruciating, self-inflicted pain or to be able to sit in a standard chair without breaking it.

At least this false dialectic of "privilege" is going to hasten the implosion of all of these new woke movements by promoting in-fighting and resentment. Or I hope anyway.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

It seems like "privilege" is now being conflated with relative "normalcy." It's not a privilege to be able to walk without excruciating, self-inflicted pain or to be able to sit in a standard chair without breaking it.

At least this false dialectic of "privilege" is going to hasten the implosion of all of these new woke movements by promoting in-fighting and resentment. Or I hope anyway.

yeah they've leeched off real social justice movements but the difference is black people being treated badly is a society problem, and not an inherent aspect of their skin color being darker. even if every article of clothing came in a size 32, smallfats would still be doing better than deathfats.

also, in that post 'struggle fitting into certain spaces', i wonder if that means like...spaces as in meet up groups where all the girls are skinny and the fat girl feels out of place, or not being able to get through doors?

 

[Twinkie]

huh... I've heard of "misery porn" before, but never in a fat context. Misery porn is like, the online true crime community. Facebook groups with thousands of members and youtube videos with millions of views; it's all women obsessing over murder cases for months on end until the next bitch is murdered then it starts all over again.

 

[Oglethorpe]

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A size 22 is a "small fat"? Bish...There is nothing small about a size 22.

 

[AbraCadaver]

huh... I've heard of "misery porn" before, but never in a fat context. Misery porn is like, the online true crime community. Facebook groups with thousands of members and youtube videos with millions of views; it's all women obsessing over murder cases for months on end until the next bitch is murdered then it starts all over again.

How can it be misery porn if the fat people depicted are living their best lives and just as healthy as anyone else? Surely the poster of that comment didn’t mean to imply that being grossly overweight is miserable!

 

[vanilla_pepsi_head]

Well, the way of humanity in the current year.

The smallfat vs deathfat war is just depressing as fuck though. Smallfat privilege is, like, maybe going on rides at Disney World because they overengineered those things and you can! Living your best life now! Also there are many clothing stores that cater to fatbodies and you can look cute buying clothes there! Don't even clue them in to buying clothes from China directly because their sizes don't go that high.

Deathfat privilege is, uh, dying of preventable causes before you hit 40. There's nothing to be proud about here.

Oh, I got one. Deathfat privilege is basically being guaranteed qualification to scam a disability check and all the associated benefits. Obesity in itself might not do it on paper, but once you're unable to stand, walk, or wipe your own ass, great, you've met the requirements for "impairment of daily function"! Are all you 200 lb bitches getting a sweet $700 a month and free drugs? Didn't think so! That's right, the other cool thing about doctors considering you a lost cause is they're a lot more likely to be free with the painkillers and stimulants. Sure, you could theoretically slam meth by the gram and you wouldn't lose an ounce if you still eat when you're not hungry, but when your excess lard is gonna kill you any second anyway it would be malpractice not to try, right? Shit when you say it that way it almost makes becoming a parasitic human garbage disposal and fusing to a filthy mattress seem almost worth it.