Social Justice Warriors - Now With Less Feminism Sperging

This man is a Senior Analyst for a video game marketing company and cannot understand that an image that suggests

Metal Gear Solid is not political

Overwatch is political

is ironic. Overwatch doesn't even have a real story, how could it be political?
This dude has also been blocking people on Twitter just for disagreeing with him LOL.
 
I think people are mostly okay with politics in games, the problem is when a stance on something relevant and controversial is one-sidedly force-fed to the player. It’s insulting to the audience’s intelligence
Politics in games should be something archetypical or broad, like the role of government, terms of engagement in war, "ends justifies the means", etc, not topical and Current Year like ORANGE MAN BAD or Republicans Bad.

Philosophical politics that make the player think are great, especially done well, like Spec Ops: The Line.
 
Exactly. I don't think it helps that "has a message" and "this is political" are used interchangeably, but the preachy, hypocritical shit is what gets the shackles up.

Curiously, the amount of support for Far Cry 5 being "political" evaporates over night when it turned out the message wasn't an Orange Man Bad creed...
 
In other news, Meryl Streep has pissed of the wokefolk -


First off, fuck Jezebel, just on principle. Secondly, they're mad because Streep used 'toxic masculinity' the way they mean it, rather than the way they say they mean it. Their motte is the jargon-y, institutional meaning of toxic masculinity, all structural and cultural. The bailey, though, what she's referring to and how Jezebel means it to be read, is 'a few men do this thing that annoys me, so let's just say all men do it and call it toxic masculinity and use it as a way to try and teach all men they are inherently bad'.

Like with the dinner with a black woman, the point is to take the group of people you're allowed to attack - men, white people, straight people, etc. - and tell them that these structural systems of oppression don't just mean your group might have certain privileges, but that the individual, specifically you, is actually a bad person for possessing these immutable characteristics, and need to be put in your place by your 'victims' for the crime of being born a certain way.

So of course Meryl Streep is right, and therefore has to be attacked for wrongthink. After all, how dare she believe that constantly telling boys and men that they are toxic and inherently bad could possibly have negative ramifications?
 
Exactly. I don't think it helps that "has a message" and "this is political" are used interchangeably, but the preachy, hypocritical shit is what gets the shackles up.

Curiously, the amount of support for Far Cry 5 being "political" evaporates over night when it turned out the message wasn't an Orange Man Bad creed...
I haven't played it but from what I've heard and seen a few clips of it sounds like it does politics pretty well, in that the "villain" is proven right.
 
Politics in games should be something archetypical or broad, like the role of government, terms of engagement in war, "ends justifies the means", etc, not topical and Current Year like ORANGE MAN BAD or Republicans Bad.

Philosophical politics that make the player think are great, especially done well, like Spec Ops: The Line.
What I think is that people don't object to political themes, but they will object to direct political messaging. Political stories are fine, but political sermons are only welcomed by the people that agree with every word of the sermon. A lot of writers lie to people and claim that their political sermons are simply political stories and then play dumb when people notice the difference, even if the people objecting don't articulate that objection very clearly.
 
What I think is that people don't object to political themes, but they will object to direct political messaging. Political stories are fine, but political sermons are only welcomed by the people that agree with every word of the sermon. A lot of writers lie to people and claim that their political sermons are simply political stories and then play dumb when people notice the difference, even if the people objecting don't articulate that objection very clearly.

People don't object to politics in their games, they object to propagandizing and shoehorning for the sake of political correctness and "woke points".

I don't think anyone actually cares if the lore for OverWatch talks about a given character being gay, lesbian, or whatever, because it's lore and not gameplay, but they care about the wokefolks screeching and reeing endlessly about how important "muh diversity!" is in a game of PvP CTF. The game doesn't have (and won't ever have) a campaign mode that explores the back-stories, so the relevance of Tracer being a muff-diving diesel femme is exactly zero.
 
People don't object to politics in their games, they object to propagandizing and shoehorning for the sake of political correctness and "woke points".

I don't think anyone actually cares if the lore for OverWatch talks about a given character being gay, lesbian, or whatever, because it's lore and not gameplay, but they care about the wokefolks screeching and reeing endlessly about how important "muh diversity!" is in a game of PvP CTF. The game doesn't have (and won't ever have) a campaign mode that explores the back-stories, so the relevance of Tracer being a muff-diving diesel femme is exactly zero.
Yeah, "good politics" in a game involve looking at the bigger picture and seeing multiple perspectives on an issue. The basic format of bait and switch has been used forever, but it works. You start off working for the "good guys" to stop the "Bad guys". But wait! It turns out the "bad guys" have some good points! And the "good guys" do some terrible stuff! So you switch sides in the game. But THEN it turns out, actually, the old "good guys" had some good reasons for that terrible stuff, because the "bad guys" actually really are really bad!

Stuff like that, making you question your own assumptions, making you think. Not "Here is current year acceptable political opinion. Look how right I am. This opinion is obviously true. Let's laugh at idiots who don't agree with correct opinion. Here's a strawman of wrong opinion, never mind that we're so dumb the strawman ended up being right anyway." Which is what I've come to expect from "Politics in video games".
 
People don't object to politics in their games, they object to propagandizing and shoehorning for the sake of political correctness and "woke points".

I don't think anyone actually cares if the lore for OverWatch talks about a given character being gay, lesbian, or whatever, because it's lore and not gameplay, but they care about the wokefolks screeching and reeing endlessly about how important "muh diversity!" is in a game of PvP CTF. The game doesn't have (and won't ever have) a campaign mode that explores the back-stories, so the relevance of Tracer being a muff-diving diesel femme is exactly zero.
This sums it all up rather well. Far as politics go, they more or less take a back seat into a game or by its side (if the devs managed to get a good story down for it). Last thing anyone wants when they play a game is being given some shoe-horned politics that could likely age badly within five years.

As for OverWatch lore, beyond anyone that spergs over the sexuality of its characters, no one else is really gonna care unless they were autistic enough to actually drag that into the game.
 
This sums it all up rather well. Far as politics go, they more or less take a back seat into a game or by its side (if the devs managed to get a good story down for it). Last thing anyone wants when they play a game is being given some shoe-horned politics that could likely age badly within five years.

As for OverWatch lore, beyond anyone that spergs over the sexuality of its characters, no one else is really gonna care unless they were autistic enough to actually drag that into the game.

It’s a symbiotic relationship. Both, when done well, enhance the other. Propaganda doesn’t produce moments like the final codex in MGS2 or meeting Andrew Ryan in Bioshock.

I’m not convinced you can’t make a decent game about the type of stuff these wokefolk types like. Fuck, they made a good game where the gameplay involves processing immigration paperwork.
 
Papers, Please worked well because its message and politics were so tightly weaved into the gameplay loop. Player and character were basically one and the same, rather than the player holding W as a speech about immigration played in voice over.

This is where Spec Ops went in the right direction too. Sure, take issue with how The Horrible War Crime section was implemented, but it's message is that glorifying war through games and other media strips out the inherent madness involved. You aren't a bad person for consuming the media, but don't forget how far away from reality it is.
 
How the fuck do you have to "crowdsource" to throw out some fucking shirts? Goddamn ratchet bitch is fucking dumb as pig shit.
You know damn well they're keeping them or selling them anyway. It doesn't matter what the occurrence, they have to bleat 'kill whitey!' at regular intervals in order to buoy their perverted and delusional worldview. "If its not whitey's fault, if the shackles I wear are of my own design, then maybe I'm just an obese rage-a-holic who refuses to take responsbility for my own actions? Nahh, kill whitey, nigga!"

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Watching hack blogger Andy Campbell from Huffington Post fume over scumbag fraud Talia Levin is much fun. "Okay, it's 9AM, get jumping people!" Fucking howling hilarious!

Here he is fuming about some guy named Paul Nehlen:
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They claim he's a huge racist white supremacist anti-semite! I wonder if any of that's true? So far I have only found that he tweeted a positive message about a book that is supposedly antisemitic.


Nehlen has repeatedly attacked critics for taking “shekels for hire” and has tweeted various memes that state “it’s OK to be white”.

Never mind, what a vile monster!
 
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You know damn well they're keeping them or selling them anyway. It doesn't matter what the occurrence, they have to bleat 'kill whitey!' at regular intervals in order to buoy their perverted and delusional worldview. "If its not whitey's fault, if the shackles I wear are of my own design, then maybe I'm just an obese rage-a-holic who refuses to take responsbility for my own actions? Nahh, kill whitey, nigga!"

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Watching hack blogger Andy Campbell from Huffington Post fume over scumbag fraud Talia Levin is much fun. "Okay, it's 9AM, get jumping people!" Fucking howling hilarious!

Here he is fuming about some guy named Paul Nehlen:
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They claim he's a huge racist white supremacist anti-semite! I wonder if any of that's true? So far I have only found that he tweeted a positive message about a book that is supposedly antisemitic.




Never mind, what a vile monster!

You mean the guy that got kicked off of Gab for doxing someone?
 
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