Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[AnOminous]

This reminds me of a burning question I've had...I know that they legally must hand over all information that has been requested.

No, they can refuse if they state a valid reason, such as attorney/client privilege or that it's completely irrelevant. If it's privilege, they have to create a list of all the contested material called a "privilege log" and explain their reasoning. If the other side challenges it, the judge can grant an order limiting the scope of discovery or review the items in camera (by himself or with the parties) and decide which are actually privileged.

But what's stopping them from picking and choosing what they share? How does the court know whether or not all discovery has been...discovered? How can the court police some damning information that one of the parties witholds?

Is it a situation of, "you better damn well reveal everything or you will be shitcanned if something comes out in the future"?

There are a variety of punishments just like anything else. They can have to pay attorney fees for the other side having to argue about it, up to just flat out losing their case in extreme cases. If they later try to enter anything into evidence for their defenses that they should have turned over in discovery but didn't, the other side can argue they shouldn't be allowed to use any of that evidence. If that means they lose their case, they lose their case. Or they can just automatically lose their case.

 

[NQ 952]

That'll be a hell nah. I feel like she smells like Doritos and cherry chapstick
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Eh, Id fuck her.

 

[GenericReviewerDraco]

Eh, Id fuck her.

I can (somewhat) understand the Jamie Marchi weirdos but you have to be baiting.

 

[Facts Over Feels]

Seriously, why does this DILF wannabe Shane and Rei herself want anybody talking to them via voice chat?

That's easy....no paper trail to hold them accountable for what they say.

 

[ThanosBoiYeet]

Rei was actually a reasonable person on vc. She joined SempaiIsHome server and debated a lot of people.

 

[BigDuckEnergy]

That's easy....no paper trail to hold them accountable for what they say.

I'm going to go with Phishing for IPs, much easier to do in voice chat. A "friend of mine" used to do this a lot back in the 360 days. Sure you could do this in a lobby with 12ish people but you kind of had to play it and eek out bits of info to narrow down which IP belonged to your target, so you just goad them into joining a private chat where you can see their IP as soon as they connect.

Anyone could do this following some basic tutorials but if i remember correctly, Shane has a history in IT and could figure it himself if not knowing someone else who could do it for him.

 

[Drip Feed]

I'm going to go with Phishing for IPs, much easier to do in voice chat. A "friend of mine" used to do this a lot back in the 360 days. Sure you could do this in a lobby with 12ish people but you kind of had to play it and eek out bits of info to narrow down which IP belonged to your target, so you just goad them into joining a private chat where you can see their IP as soon as they connect.

Anyone could do this following some basic tutorials but if i remember correctly, Shane has a history in IT and could figure it himself if not knowing someone else who could do it for him.

Iirc its to do with developer mode, people were doing it in a discord i was in, someone would type and some tard was spooking people by telling them their ip, discord is very easy to grab an ip, id expect shane to pull some slimey move lile make a list.

 

[Urbanmech]

I'm going to go with Phishing for IPs, much easier to do in voice chat. A "friend of mine" used to do this a lot back in the 360 days. Sure you could do this in a lobby with 12ish people but you kind of had to play it and eek out bits of info to narrow down which IP belonged to your target, so you just goad them into joining a private chat where you can see their IP as soon as they connect.

Anyone could do this following some basic tutorials but if i remember correctly, Shane has a history in IT and could figure it himself if not knowing someone else who could do it for him.

And there it is, knew there had to be something sneaky about it. He is still butt hurt about the Dox so trying to get revenge any way he can.

 

[DrunkJoe]

I can (somewhat) understand the Jamie Marchi weirdos but you have to be baiting.

Fat chicks can be fun in the sac. They know how to eat meat. Just for me requires a fuck ton of booze before I ll operate heavy machinery like that.

 

[Faket0Fake]

Fat chicks can be fun in the sac. They know how to eat meat. Just for me requires a fuck ton of booze before I ll operate heavy machinery like that.

Not fat and ginger though,that's a step too far.

 

[Bootylicious Bootyhole]

Eh, Id fuck her.

I can (somewhat) understand the Jamie Marchi weirdos but you have to be baiting.

They may be VERY low, and ultimately meaningless, but even I have standards!

 

[AZ 594]

Fat chicks can be fun in the sac. They know how to eat meat. Just for me requires a fuck ton of booze before I ll operate heavy machinery like that.

You sure are blunt about wanting the gunt. You gotta have ale to rail the whale.

 

[NQ 952]

They may be VERY low, and ultimately meaningless, but even I have standards!

You're on KiwiFarms, you have no standards.

 

[Superman93]

That'll be a hell nah. I feel like she smells like Doritos and cherry chapstick
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Holy shit we got another whale lads! This one is a big one

 

[AnOminous]

Anyone could do this following some basic tutorials but if i remember correctly, Shane has a history in IT and could figure it himself if not knowing someone else who could do it for him.

Shane is a shoe-eating idiot but anyone who would join some honeypot server he was on without using a VPN is an even bigger idiot.

 

[RodgerDodger]

This reminds me of a burning question I've had...I know that they legally must hand over all information that has been requested. But what's stopping them from picking and choosing what they share? How does the court know whether or not all discovery has been...discovered? How can the court police some damning information that one of the parties witholds?

Is it a situation of, "you better damn well reveal everything or you will be shitcanned if something comes out in the future"?

Let’s use Ron as the obvious example here. Ron has a ton of communications. Neither Ron nor Ron’s lawyer know exactly what Ty Beard has already. And that’s ultimately what theoretically keeps them (somewhat) honest. Failure to hand over discovery documents, particularly seeming to be hiding things, goes very badly.

For example all of Ron’s communications with regard to Vic have been subpoena’d from I believe November to current. Does anyone honestly think those KC Con texts were going to be in the batch handed over? until Ty rattled his cage by giving what he had to Nick? Now when Ron’s documents show up BHBH will look at them, and ask “where are the communications with Shame?” See when Shane published those KC texts to in some way spite Nick, he published Ron’s side of that conversation. So Ty knows that there have been communications with Shane. A lot of what the Plaintiff is asking for he already has, at least part of. He just needs verification, and to see where else it leads. The Plaintiff typically already has enough to let them know where the other stuff is or should be. Trying to hide, alter or bs this phase tends to go badly.

Typically the requesting party, the Plaintiff in this case, has a pretty good timeline of how and when things occurred. He knows what he should be seeing in the discovery docs. And when stuff that he should be seeing isn’t there, you start asking questions.

 

[AJ 447]

@emspex should we make a thread about ANN & Co.?

Go for it

 

[Pope of Degeneracy]

Eh, Id fuck her.

Maybe if you did, she would stop sperging out.
Thank you for offering to take one for the team, comrade

 

[AnOminous]

Let’s use Ron as the obvious example here. Ron has a ton of communications. Neither Ron nor Ron’s lawyer know exactly what Ty Beard has already. And that’s ultimately what theoretically keeps them (somewhat) honest.

Ty has publicly implied, imo, that he views the depositions as almost being perjury traps, in that he thinks Ron is going to lie, and he intends to ask the matter be referred to a prosecutor when he does. I think Ron will commit perjury, too. I think he's that stupid. Apparently, Ty thinks he's so stupid he will do that even after being told publicly exactly what will happen if he does and repeatedly being caught and proven to be lying in public with publicly available information. He's just that much of a fuckup and a cuck.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Maybe if you did, she would stop sperging out.
Thank you for offering to take one for the team, comrade

Doesn't work. They get a pity fuck, it just makes them resent everything even harder - and they always assume it's a pity-fuck, because they have a self-worth lower than the bottom of the Marianas trench. Getting laid only makes them worse.