2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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So basically it's going to be two elderly men battling for the nomination.
And I thought the states were a progressive nation.
HAHA, no. Obama was an outlier, and he was a Cool Dude That Just Happened To Be Half Black. Even Biden complemented him by saying he wasn't a marble mouthed negro.
I didn't care about race and sex for a politician, but the left considers any criticism of them is because of racism or sexism. I can't deal with that shallowness.
I don't like Yang, but I'll give him this: he's probably the greatest leftist troll in years without knowing it. He's very effectively rustled the jimmies of the Very Serious People on the alt right (you know, the people who really think posting poo poo pee pee frog memes will revive fascism and make them charles martel, or grifters who pretend to think that for neetbux).

I could've told you years ago 4chan doesn't believe in anything but lulz and would dump Trump once he became too mainstream and the next epic meme came along. But these grifters don't know that and it's fun seeing their bubbles popped.
Yang is the greatest leftist troll that nobody knows about.
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What's this "we" shit? The 19th Amendment only wound up ratified because the Democrats lost control of Congress in 1919, and even then it was passed overwhelmingly by Republicans. I can't believe Eric's even running for President, everything he says is as jacked-up as his face.
"My little male feminist"? What? Fighting for (white) women's right to vote? Not non-white? In Current Year, what American doesn't have the right to vote? What equality do women not have?
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Well, Eric, the important thing is that you tried. I think.
More like Eric Stalled Well, amirite?
 
HAHA, no. Obama was an outlier, and he was a Cool Dude That Just Happened To Be Half Black. Even Biden complemented him by saying he wasn't a marble mouthed negro.
I didn't care about race and sex for a politician, but the left considers any criticism of them is because of racism or sexism. I can't deal with that shallowness.

Yang is the greatest leftist troll that nobody knows about.

"My little male feminist"? What? Fighting for (white) women's right to vote? Not non-white? In Current Year, what American doesn't have the right to vote? What equality do women not have?

More like Eric Stalled Well, amirite?
It's just lame virtue signaling and some asshole projecting on his kid for asspats from woke Twitter.

I doubt that kid even knows what the suffragettes are or cares outside of a disinterested "yeah,yeah dad".
 
Socialism debate roils Democratic primary
A fierce debate over socialism has erupted among Democrats, with several centrist presidential candidates warning that progressive proposals on health care and the environment that have dominated the primary are a surefire way to get President Trump reelected.

Three low-polling contenders - former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper, Sen. Michael Bennet (Colo.) and former Rep. John Delaney (Md.) - are unloading on socialism or taking shots at "Medicare for All" and the Green New Deal, which have gone mainstream in the Democratic Party since being embraced by Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Elizabeth Warren (Mass.), as well as Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (N.Y.).

Hickenlooper and Delaney made waves with their warnings about socialism and Medicare for All at the California Democratic Party convention over the weekend in San Francisco, where they were booed mercilessly by the liberal crowd.

Now they've become targets for the party's energized left wing, including Ocasio-Cortez, who encouraged Delaney to "sashay away" from the race after he said that Medicare for All would result in hospital bankruptcies and cost 150 million Americans access to health insurance.

But the centrists are doubling down and warning that a leftward lurch toward socialism could cost Democrats the White House in 2020.

"If we put socialism on the ballot in 2020, that sounds very risky to me," Delaney said in a Monday phone interview with The Hill. "The lesson from 2018 is very clear. We flipped the House with moderate candidates. You can't argue that point. The seats we flipped were with problem solvers, not with litmus test ideologues. We win when we put forth problem solvers who run in the center."

Liberals are irate, arguing that no one running for the Democratic nomination, not even Sanders, a self-described democratic socialist, is proposing that the U.S. should abandon capitalism and become a socialist country.



Neil Sroka, the communications director for the liberal group Democracy for America, described the centrists as a "group of older white men who think this is their best path to relevance in the primary."

"Their argument hinges on a Republican view of the world that anything that is not greed-soaked exploitative capitalism must then be totalitarian communism," Sroka said. "That's the binary choice Republicans have decided on and all these old, irrelevant white men are doing is bending to that way of thinking because they believe it's a path to victory for their campaigns."

Democrats are bracing to see how former Vice President Joe Biden reacts to the controversy, noting that the party's presidential front-runner could ignite a vicious struggle between the progressive and establishment wings of the party if he sides with the centrists.

Biden has sought to cast himself as a progressive champion, but one with crossover appeal to mainstream voters, believing it makes him the most electable candidate in the Democratic field.

Biden was noticeably absent from San Francisco over the weekend, where progressives, such as Sanders and Warren, took shots at him as the "safe" choice whose centrist leanings are ill-suited for the times.

"Some Democrats in Washington believe the only changes we can get are tweaks and nudges. If they dream at all, they dream small," Warren told the crowd of delegates. "The time for small ideas is over."

Liberals have found Hickenlooper's speech from that event particularly infuriating, with many viewing his remarks on socialism as an ad hominem attack that is irrelevant to the debate going on among the left.

Hickenlooper was booed for saying that "if we want to beat Donald Trump and achieve big progressive goals, socialism is not the answer."

In an interview with The Hill directly following his speech, Hickenlooper went further, describing Medicare for All and the Green New Deal as "massive government expansions" that are adjacent to socialism and will turn off general election voters in key swing states.

"In places like Ohio and Michigan and North Carolina and Wisconsin, places we have to win to beat Trump, we'll be starting out 10 yards behind," Hickenlooper said.

Progressive activist Jonathan Tasini, who described Hickenlooper, Bennet and Delaney as the "white guys who belong to the dead-ender caucus," said the centrist Democrats are making a bad-faith argument that plays into GOP talking points about socialism.

Republicans want nothing more than for Democrats to be debating whether their policies are socialist, Tasini said.

"It's fair game for Bennet, Delaney or any dead-ender to challenge progressives on policy, and I'd welcome that because our positions have majority support among the people," Tasini said. "And then there's Hickenlooper, who should be ostracized after embracing Republican-Trump talking points to mudsling and engage in vile red-baiting, along the way creating an ad featuring him sure to run in the general election with the tagline 'even Democrats know socialism has taken over their party.' "

Polling data finds broad support for Medicare for All, but "socialism" remains unpopular among a majority of voters.

A recent Gallup survey found that less than half of Americans polled would consider voting for a qualified presidential candidate if that person is a socialist.

However, a different Gallup survey from 2018 found that a majority of Democrats have a positive view of socialism for the first time ever. That phenomenon is largely driven by young liberals, who are more likely to have a favorable view of socialism.

Some mainstream Democrats are frustrated by these new dynamics, believing that the progressive wing refuses to compromise and wants to drum anyone who disagrees with them out of the party.

Delaney told The Hill that he and the progressive wing have the same goal of universal health care, but that he wants to preserve the option for Americans to purchase private insurance. After Ocasio-Cortez called on him to drop out of the race for criticizing Medicare for All, Delaney accused some on the left of trying to stifle debate.

"I'm worried that some folks in the Democratic Party are intolerant toward different views on this and don't want a debate," Delaney said. "That won't serve us well ... and unfortunately not enough Democrats want to step forward and say what they know to be true."

Several Democrats interviewed by The Hill said they're fine with a policy debate, but take issue with the centrists' use of the word "socialism" in close proximity to the progressives' most ambitious policy proposals, saying it only serves to give political ammunition to Trump and the Republicans.

Said one prominent Democratic strategist: "If we have a general election debate over socialism, we lose."
 
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Socialism debate roils Democratic primary
The Implosion continues. The "Liberals" are going to be harshly reminded again in 2020 that the rest of the US exists outside the Silicon Valley bubble.
 
Socialism debate roils Democratic primary
How the hell have we gotten to the point where this isn't laughed at as a suggestion?
 
How the hell have we gotten to the point where this isn't laughed at as a suggestion?
Because fresh out of college Millennials are coddled idiots that think Socialism is the path to Utopia and California thinks it speaks for the entire USA and isn't just a slowly rotting shithole that everyone hates thanks to dumbass SJW hipsters.
 
Joe Biden supports ban prohibiting the use of federal funds for abortion, still leads polls

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jun/5/joe-biden-backs-hyde-amendment-which-generally-ban/

https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...e-supports-controversial-abortion-rule-report

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...bortion-rights-still-holds-surprises-n1013846

Not only has the Democrat base moved further to the right economically since Bill Clinton, they're now overwhelmingly supporting a 76-year-old conservative Catholic pro-segregation anti-abortionist who is polling twice the amount of Bernie Sanders.
 
In 1976, Biden voted for the Hyde Amendment, a law banning federal funds to pay for abortion.

In 1981, the “Biden amendment” to the Foreign Assistance Act banned any American aid from being used in research related to abortions.

In 1984, Biden supported the “Mexico City policy” which bans federal funding for private organizations that provide abortion, advocate to decriminalize abortion, or expand abortion services.

In 1993, Biden voted to save the Hyde Amendment.

In 1995 and 1997, Biden voted for partial-birth abortion bans that would be vetoed by Bill Clinton.

On June 5th, 2019, Joe Biden continued his 40+ year support for the Hyde Amendment.

On June 6th, Twitter outrage fanned a push-back against Biden's support of the Hyde Amendment.

On the evening of June 6th, Joe Biden caved and reversed a 40+ year position to appease outraged Progressives. Now Biden supports taxpayer-funded abortion from conception to crowning. Welcome to the utter spinelessness of the leading 2020 Democratic candidate. All it took was a single evening and a few angry words and he dropped a position that he's held longer than most people who read this have even been alive.
 
In 1976, Biden voted for the Hyde Amendment, a law banning federal funds to pay for abortion.

In 1981, the “Biden amendment” to the Foreign Assistance Act banned any American aid from being used in research related to abortions.

In 1984, Biden supported the “Mexico City policy” which bans federal funding for private organizations that provide abortion, advocate to decriminalize abortion, or expand abortion services.

In 1993, Biden voted to save the Hyde Amendment.

In 1995 and 1997, Biden voted for partial-birth abortion bans that would be vetoed by Bill Clinton.

On June 5th, 2019, Joe Biden continued his 40+ year support for the Hyde Amendment.

On June 6th, Twitter outrage fanned a push-back against Biden's support of the Hyde Amendment.

On the evening of June 6th, Joe Biden caved and reversed a 40+ year position to appease outraged Progressives. Now Biden supports taxpayer-funded abortion from conception to crowning. Welcome to the utter spinelessness of the leading 2020 Democratic candidate. All it took was a single evening and a few angry words and he dropped a position that he's held longer than most people who read this have even been alive.

I eagerly await Bob Chipman informing the world via Twitter that Biden has *always* been pro-abortion. He was just playing the long con to trick the rubes, like he *had* to.

It is depressing though. Despite being solidly pro-choice, I like the idea that you can respect a man for his convictions. If a man's convictions are determined by what Twitter says today... not so much.
 
In 1976, Biden voted for the Hyde Amendment, a law banning federal funds to pay for abortion.

In 1981, the “Biden amendment” to the Foreign Assistance Act banned any American aid from being used in research related to abortions.

In 1984, Biden supported the “Mexico City policy” which bans federal funding for private organizations that provide abortion, advocate to decriminalize abortion, or expand abortion services.

In 1993, Biden voted to save the Hyde Amendment.

In 1995 and 1997, Biden voted for partial-birth abortion bans that would be vetoed by Bill Clinton.

On June 5th, 2019, Joe Biden continued his 40+ year support for the Hyde Amendment.

On June 6th, Twitter outrage fanned a push-back against Biden's support of the Hyde Amendment.

On the evening of June 6th, Joe Biden caved and reversed a 40+ year position to appease outraged Progressives. Now Biden supports taxpayer-funded abortion from conception to crowning. Welcome to the utter spinelessness of the leading 2020 Democratic candidate. All it took was a single evening and a few angry words and he dropped a position that he's held longer than most people who read this have even been alive.
There's two possible scenarios at work here:

1. Biden is doing a grift and is lying his ass off to sucker in woketards for free votes.

2. The Democrats are so desperate to be better than "Drumpt" that they'll sell out their principles for virtue.
 
I dunno, I like the idea of an elected official who is willing to do what his voters want him to do instead of stubbornly sticking to their own ideas even if it’s clearly not what the person who puts them there wants.

I just don’t think Joe Biden is actually that person.
 
I dunno, I like the idea of an elected official who is willing to do what his voters want him to do instead of stubbornly sticking to their own ideas even if it’s clearly not what the person who puts them there wants.

I just don’t think Joe Biden is actually that person.
I small loud group of people bitching on social media isn't the will of the voters. A politician who follows the whims of which ever group cries the loudest is a shitty one (This unfortunately has been the downfall of the current democratic party, much like it was with the Republicans a couple of decades ago, but this time it's SJWs instead of fundies.)

You should vote in a politician whose general worldview you support, and who you think will make good decisions for the whole of the country, not some pussy who just bows down to whatever group is crying atm.
 
I small loud group of people bitching on social media isn't the will of the voters. A politician who follows the whims of which ever group cries the loudest is a shitty one (This unfortunately has been the downfall of the current democratic party, much like it was with the Republicans a couple of decades ago, but this time it's SJWs instead of fundies.)

You should vote in a politician whose general worldview you support, and who you think will make good decisions for the whole of the country, not some pussy who just bows down to whatever group is crying atm.
Exactly, this isn't Biden voters or hell even Democrat voters in general.

If state funded Abortion is what Dem voters want they'll vote in a candidate that supports it out the gate.

All this spinelessness will do is sour people on both Biden and the Democratic Party in general just like the Fundies nearly destroyed the Republican party.
 
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https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1136994782629257216

I can't believe how people who are supposedly so intelligent can be so oblivious and blind. Is it really that hard for people to see why Biden changing positions overnight after 40+ years is not problematic?

There's two choices:
1. He didn't really change his mind and actually still supports the Hyde Amendment and has no intention on repealing it.
2. He did really change his mind but is so unprincipled that he will take whatever position and say whatever to get elected.

Nate Silver is getting dragged though, which I am enjoying.

My favorite reply in that thread is

Anyone who is stupid enough to think Joe Biden is actually being genuine probably fell for Jussie Smollett's story too.
 
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