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[Cosmug]

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Howard Brick, Chair of Israel Engagement at Temple Isaiah

University of Michigan Course Will Argue that Trump Is a 'Fascist'

A course that will be offered by the University of Michigan to consider whether or not President Donald Trump is the "new face of fascism." Based on the tone of the class description and the political climate of campuses around the country, it is likely the class and its professor will argue...

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More fucking Whig Historiography, oh of course a moderate republican with widespread support is the new face of fascism and ethnic cleansing despite not imposing fascism or ethnically cleansing anyone, because we started with that foregone conclusion and, with mass comparison, built a body of cherry-picked details he and his followers sort-of share with historical events we already use as snarl words for them. I can’t believe Jonah fucking Goldberg was prescient in saying that fascistic left-wing movements would mobilize against the working class at the beck and call of corporate media claiming to be “anti-fascist”.

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

>Centrists
>Doing anything

Pick one

They do something every time there's an election by being the people who actually matter. They do something every time there's a poll that the MSM expects to go their way that doesn't.

They don't go on the internet and complain because all the whiny extremists are annoying to them. They go to work, they do stuff, they turn on the TV and say "What the fuck is this shit" when they notice something that's been going on for years.

 

[NiggerFaggot1488]

LOL no they are not. The Party is currently tearing itself apart on whether it should embrace socialism or not and months ago Kamala Harris openly admitted Reparations are utterly untenable and just the DNC paying lip service to batshit Millennials. You know like how Bush gave lip service to the Fundies in the 2000s?

The only thing uniting the Dems is a hatred of Trump and they are already fracturing hard.

I agree that they are fracturing but I do not agree that centrists will win. I also don't believe there are actually any centrists in the DNC, but maybe we have different definitions of centrist.

 

[JohnDoe]

Who’s the arbiter of what counts as an American identity? This all sounds horribly authoritarian

As authoritarian as national borders, I'd say. Then again I'm just an American, not an [insert divisive splinter identity here].

 

[Harvey Danger]

There will never be a viable 3rd party in the USA unless the Constitution is changed and we switch to a Parliamentary system. 3rd parties mathematically cannot have success in winner take all electoral systems, they always end up splitting the vote instead. This is PolSci 101.

I wasn't going to go into that, but yeah, there won't be 3 parties simultaneously viable in the USA for that reason. Allowing that is both a feature and a bug of parliamentarian systems, which (thankfully) we don't have in the USA.

But that doesn't mean we'll always have the same two parties forever in the USA. We started out with Pro-Administration vs Democratic-Republicans, then moved to Federalists vs Whigs; all of which slowly got replaced over time. Other parties formed, lasted a few years, then got folded into the big 2 and had a big impact on policy: the Progressive Party, the Free Silver Party, the Know-Nothing Party, the Free Soil Party, etc.

The modern Democrats and Republicans are ripe for replacement, but a 3rd party won't get the momentum it needs as long as the very concept of 3rd parties is carrying the blame for 1992 and 2000 in voter's heads. That stigma won't last forever, though. Voters forget the lessons of history eventually; it's the lessons of personal experience that stick around longer.

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

As authoritarian as national borders, I'd say. Then again I'm just an American, not an [insert divisive splinter identity here].

Your avatar says otherwise... furries are not americans. Or human.

 

[iafiv]

Getting rid of the Electoral college de facto or de jure would change the nature of the US as a country.The Founding fathers wanted the states to elect POTUS and also the states to be represented in a legislature Congress.That way they could in theory contain the tendency towards centrifugal forces tearing the Union apart a risk identified even back then.Eliminating the College even de facto would mean the states lose any role in electing POTUS.So the US de facto becomes a unitarian republic no longer a federal system in the true sense of the word.It also would change the nature of elections pretty much forcing a closer bond between groups across state lines.And that's a problem in a multiracial country.It would de facto lead to the true formation of a white voting bloc,a black voting block a hispanic voting bloc.These to a large extent already exist but they're somewhat mitigated by the existence of state boundaries.Once POTUS gets elected without the College matering voting blocs across racial lines would trully become cristalised.Which is dangerous.The two political parties in the US are already racial parties lets not mince words here.Once this happens they'll become true racial parties.

 

[ProgKing of the North]

As authoritarian as national borders, I'd say. Then again I'm just an American, not an [insert divisive splinter identity here].

What? You were just saying you wanted to cleanse even citizens that don’t fit into your concept of “American identity”. That’s a hell of a lot more authoritarian than just having borders.

Also the whole point of freedom is that people can choose whatever the hell identity they want, and sure as shit don’t need your approval for it.

 

[PN 801]

What? You were just saying you wanted to cleanse even citizens that don’t fit into your concept of “American identity”. That’s a hell of a lot more authoritarian than just having borders.

Also the whole point of freedom is that people can choose whatever the hell identity they want, and sure as shit don’t need your approval for it.

Stfu swamp monkey

 

[Cosmug]

What? You were just saying you wanted to cleanse even citizens that don’t fit into your concept of “American identity”. That’s a hell of a lot more authoritarian than just having borders.

Also the whole point of freedom is that people can choose whatever the hell identity they want, and sure as shit don’t need your approval for it.

The most sensible meaning of the neo-con concept of “American as an idealistic identity” I can think of, and agree with, is that American legal principles are supposed to be based on human universals that everyone wants for themselves. If no one gets their own law (privilege comes from “private law” as in, one legal code for the chosen and another for the rabble) then people pick laws that benefit everyone if only to save their own skin.
What’s happening today and has been for ages is that ethnic privilege has been asserted to exist for the typical StraightWhiteMale etc as a justification for demanding privilege for every other fractious IDPol grouping. If you don’t want one law for everyone then you are fundamentally not about what America is ideally supposed to be about. Today’s legal system tries the accused in the court of public opinion on their identitarian grudges before they get an actual legal trial, which has lead to multiple problems where people are “guilty” for months at a time before outrage erupts over them, WHOOPS, not actually legally being guilty of anything.
Ethnic revanchism is being deliberately sown by media and political figures and the only beneficiaries of it seem to be those media corporations and career politicians.

 

[BubbleButt]

I predict...like....3 billion dead.

Don't make me so

 

[DeadwastePrime]

and heres to a current year amount of tds. im done dont worry

 

[SmileyTimeDayCare]

Inb4 he gets banned for running fake accounts and for manipulating discourse on Twitter too.

He's so thirsty for that O.D.

 

[BR55]

To all the people freaking out over the vaunted "Popular Vote Compact" you really shouldn't.
The thing is unenforceable and would be smacked down in an instant by the Supreme Court.
And that assumes they have the power to force it through in enough States which they don't at the moment.

More fucking Whig Historiography, oh of course a moderate republican with widespread support is the new face of fascism and ethnic cleansing despite not imposing fascism or ethnically cleansing anyone, because we started with that foregone conclusion and, with mass comparison, built a body of cherry-picked details he and his followers sort-of share with historical events we already use as snarl words for them. I can’t believe Jonah fucking Goldberg was prescient in saying that fascistic left-wing movements would mobilize against the working class at the beck and call of corporate media claiming to be “anti-fascist”.

I remember Jonah Goldberg. He used to be quite insightful, before he went down the Never Trump/Principled Conservative rabbit hole never to be seen again.

 

[Cosmug]

To all the people freaking out over the vaunted "Popular Vote Compact" you really shouldn't.
The thing is unenforceable and would be smacked down in an instant by the Supreme Court.
And that assumes they have the power to force it through in enough States which they don't at the moment.

I remember Jonah Goldberg. He used to be quite insightful, before he went down the Never Trump/Principled Conservative rabbit hole never to be seen again.

I’m referencing his “Liberal Fascism” here, pulled off a neighbor’s bookshelf years ago that helped set my thinking down the path of “wait a minute, maybe policy positions matter more than the team jersey” but then again I was a fucking idiot years ago. His terminology was “smiley face fascism” which was “for your own good” as if this gaggle of disconnected bureaucrats was a smothering mom for the general public.
Well what do you know? Look at the arguments today for sanitizing the Internet of all spicy opinions.

 

[BR55]

I’m referencing his “Liberal Fascism” here, pulled off a neighbor’s bookshelf years ago that helped set my thinking down the path of “wait a minute, maybe policy positions matter more than the team jersey” but then again I was a fucking idiot years ago. His terminology was “smiley face fascism” which was “for your own good” as if this gaggle of disconnected bureaucrats was a smothering mom for the general public.
Well what do you know? Look at the arguments today for sanitizing the Internet of all spicy opinions.

Oh I'm very familiar with that book and what you were referencing.
I was just pointing out that Jonah is one of the many Conservative commentators who decided "respectability" was more important than actually dealing with the Left's bullshit.

 

[breadandcircuses]

To all the people freaking out over the vaunted "Popular Vote Compact" you really shouldn't.
The thing is unenforceable and would be smacked down in an instant by the Supreme Court.
And that assumes they have the power to force it through in enough States which they don't at the moment.

I remember Jonah Goldberg. He used to be quite insightful, before he went down the Never Trump/Principled Conservative rabbit hole never to be seen again.

The popular vote compact only helps republicans. How many conservatives do you think there are in California, New York, and Illionois that don't normally vote because there's no use...

 

[TowinKarz]

There will never be a viable 3rd party in the USA unless the Constitution is changed and we switch to a Parliamentary system. 3rd parties mathematically cannot have success in winner take all electoral systems, they always end up splitting the vote instead. This is PolSci 101.

Not viable in the sense they could straight-up put their candidate in the White House, but they are definitely viable as a way to punish the major two party system when it gets too complacent and ignores (or is perceived to be ignoring) the wishes of the masses. Because the party that sees the most "defections" of people they were courting to a 3rd party has to try and win them back or at least convince them to go after the other guys instead.

I still contend Trump is a 3rd party President who only picked a side because he knew branding was important, and an "R" was more palatable to the electorate in 2016 after the missteps of Obama and the growing craziness of IdPol Progressivism. I'm pretty sure deep down inside he hated half the people he was shaking hands with at party HQ/conventions and vice versa... which is why he got remarkably little of note done early on despite, nominally, having congress on his side, the Rs didn't want a POPULIST Rep, they wanted a pro-business neocon, but couldn't come out and SAY it, so they drug their feet, obstructed and hoped to just wait him out, only to find THEY got ousted in the midterms for it instead.

To all the people freaking out over the vaunted "Popular Vote Compact" you really shouldn't.
The thing is unenforceable and would be smacked down in an instant by the Supreme Court.

If Trump bulldozes his way to a second term and wins the popular vote while doing it.... the whole idea will be memory-holed and you'll never hear of it again, nor will anyone, not even the state Congress of Nevada, ever admit to have THOUGHT about backing such a crazy idea as forcing the progressive states to fall in line with those racist masses and not have a say against it .....

 

[iafiv]

The popular vote compact only helps republicans. How many conservatives do you think there are in California, New York, and Illionois that don't normally vote because there's no use...

Actually there aren't that many.If you want to get an idea of how strong conservatives are in say California one reasonably good way is to look at electoral results from 2016.California from a political map POV can be streched into 3 parts.Coastal Cal is overwhelmingly democrat(>75%).Middle California is split about even with an increasing democrat lean(55-45) and then there's northeast Cal the only region with a sizeable repub majority(65%).Nothing personal but some states simply don't have the demographics for conservatives.California is gone for conservatives primarily because California is made up to a large extent of people that don't really vote repub.Some states really are gone for repubs.Don't imagine there's some magical millions of conservatives in these states that would suddenly appear out of nowhere.And by the logic that there are millions of conservatives in Cali that are somehow in hiding(???) someone might state that there are millions of liberals somehow in hiding in Alabama.

 

[aFairlyOddFaggot]

Trump 2020