Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[beardium]

And who are you again?

Lisa Hansell. The lady who been Vic's friend for 8 years and recently came out as Pro-Vic.

 

[Svetlana]

You don't have to answer if you don't want to, but from everything you may have seen publicly, what are your impressions of Mr. Ty Beard?

I'll happily answer. I have spent a good deal of time with Ty (dinners, phone conversations - I was the one who took the pic of him and Vic on the Star Trek bridge he Tweeted, etc). I find him to be an incredibly brilliant tactician. He's a war history buff with what I believe to be an eidetic memory for detail regarding strategy, etc. From the first time I met him back in February, I was impressed by his dedication and his true care for his clients beyond the job. I have every confidence in him and his team

And who are you again? EDIT: one of BHBH's amazons?

Ty dubbed me an "honorary Amazon" a few months ago as a gesture of affection/humor. I dig it. The Amazons are cool

 

[TheClappening]

She couldn't bury Vic so she's trying to move on to a softer target perhaps, people keep saying it's not worth suing her but at this point I think she needs a legal lynching to slap her dumbass back into reality.

The very reason of punitive damages.

I wonder how that would work out, legally. Since she's from California, that would need federal court, right? And I know in Texas it's hard to collect on debts (no wage garnishing, for example), but what about California? Or are there federal laws that would supersede Texas debt collection?

 

[AnOminous]

The very reason of punitive damages.

I wonder how that would work out, legally. Since she's from California, that would need federal court, right? And I know in Texas it's hard to collect on debts (no wage garnishing, for example), but what about California? Or are there federal laws that would supersede Texas debt collection?

No, there's probably jurisdiction in Texas, especially if there's civil conspiracy. They could go sue her in California, too, though. It's not like it's much further than parts of Texas are away from each other. Or they could sue her in federal court. If they only sued her and other non-Texas defendants, it could probably be removed to federal court, but if they sued any Texas defendants alongside her, there would not be complete diversity and diversity jurisdiction wouldn't apply.

They could also, depending on the progress of the case, amend the current Texas case to add defendants.

 

[AnCapFool]

It is part of their delete culture. If I don't say the name, they don't exist. Sick people.

Again: To them, language creates reality. If they can control how something is discussed, they control what it is.

 

[Wake me up]

Ty dubbed me an "honorary Amazon" a few months ago as a gesture of affection/humor. I dig it. The Amazons are cool

In that case let me apologize and welcome you to the Farms. I have one question for you: being close to Vic and this entire debacle, what are your thoughts on the long-standing attacks against Vic's character (even before #KickVic) and also what is your reaction when you see Ron Soye saying something like "the truth will come out soon" again and again and again?

If you're telling us that Vic doesn't have a sexual-predator-bone in his body, which I think many of us are sympathetic to and believe in, where do you think all this hatred and effort towards harming him as a person and his career come from?

There are many theories floating around, as you can imagine but your personal take on this would be a great contribution.

Also, if at all possible, contact a moderator to see about getting you verified as a person of particular interest to this thread, if you'd be so inclined (disclaimer: I am not a mod/admin/important to any extent around here, it's just a friendly suggestion)

 

[xyz741]

What is happening to Vic is awful. The way that people like Rial, Marchi, and Saucedo are tarnishing this man's reputation is abhorrent, and INCREDIBLY insulting to actual sexual assault survivors.

Rial at least claims to have been PERSONALLY "assaulted". I believe Marchia has also, but can't remember for sure. Marzgurl needs to just STFU, she has flat out admitted that she (herself) has NEVER had any problems with Vic, she (just claims to be) campaigning on behalf of others.

 

[babblesnip]

Supergirl Tweeted out my Quora answer cuz I'm boomerrific and don't have a Twitter account

I don't have a Twitter account because @jack won't let me have one for long.

 

[MelodyNelson]

Have you seen Keanu being praised for his 'respectful' hover hands? The sort of thing that, just a few years ago, was laughed at as being done by men who had no idea that women were real people. Apparently they're called 'good manner hands' in parts Asia. (Which is important because I think that's where feminism began.)

It's not respectful! It's firmly putting women in a submissive position. I don't much like being touched but this minute policing of basic interactions is going to lead to a generation even more neurotic than the current ones.

From the outside the whole country seems split between those who think old bigotries are great and those who think hugs are sexual assault. Liberal (by US standards) as I am I'm increasingly thinking you should build a wall on the Mexican border. And on the the Canadian borders. And all around the coasts. And put a fucking roof on top and maybe the rest of us will come and see you in fifty years to see if you've recovered.

Then I remember that where I live is worse and I just want to forget this whole mammal thing and go back to the oceans.

I don't know if Vic is guilty of not, although he's obviously not guilty of all he's been accused of - I'm just glad that people are pushing back against the sort of 'no smoke without fire' conviction-by-gossip that ruined Roscoe Arbuckle and Mabel Normand's careers. Which I was always led to believe was wrong but is now apparently right, because it's from the other side or something.

But I wish people wouldn't joke about dead parents and pets. Parents, pets and friends' deaths shoud be off-limits, I think. Anything else is just 'no bad tactics, just bad targets' by another name.

 

[TheClappening]

I haven't seen this posted.

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Lord Beard has Great Genes. First it was Lady Rackets now Daughter Beard...... We playing some waifu gacha game ?

Edit - Not to forget the beautiful Amazons as well...... It blows my mind how attractive a normal human being that ain't sjw can be.

I just want to point out that we're slowly drawing Ty into the black hole of weebdom. Star Blazers and Legend Of The Galactic Heroes can have some normie appeal, especially to history war buffs like Ty. But Kantai Collection? That's weeb as fuck. You have to be infected with moe culture to appreciate merch for that.

Oh God Ty, don't do it.

 

[AnOminous]

But I wish people wouldn't joke about dead parents and pets. Parents, pets and friends' deaths shoud be off-limits, I think. Anything else is just 'no bad tactics, just bad targets' by another name.

Bullshit. Nobody ever had their career destroyed because someone made a joke about a dead cat.

 

[Leblanc]

I just want to point out that we're slowly drawing Ty into the black hole of weebdom. Star Blazers and Legend Of The Galactic Heroes can have some normie appeal, especially to history war buffs like Ty. But Kantai Collection? That's weeb as fuck. You have to be infected with moe culture to appreciate merch for that.

Oh God Ty, don't do it.

We have the skills to turn a respectable Renaissance man into a fucking weeb, anime tiddies are truly unstoppable

 

[TardBows]

I just want to point out that we're slowly drawing Ty into the black hole of weebdom. Star Blazers and Legend Of The Galactic Heroes can have some normie appeal, especially to history war buffs like Ty. But Kantai Collection? That's weeb as fuck. You have to be infected with moe culture to appreciate merch for that.

Oh God Ty, don't do it.

Hey, can't spell "Weeb Wars" without weeb. That being said, does the Beard even have the taste of 2D women?

 

[Svetlana]

In that case let me apologize and welcome you to the Farms. I have one question for you: being close to Vic and this entire debacle, what are your thoughts on the long-standing attacks against Vic's character (even before #KickVic) and also what is your reaction when you see Ron Soye saying something like "the truth will come out soon" again and again and again?

If you're telling us that Vic doesn't have a sexual-predator-bone in his body, which I think many of us are sympathetic to and believe in, where do you think all this hatred and effort towards harming him as a person and his career come from?

There are many theories floating around, as you can imagine but your personal take on this would be a great contribution.

Also, if at all possible, contact a moderator to see about getting you verified as a person of particular interest to this thread, if you'd be so inclined (disclaimer: I am not a mod/admin/important to any extent around here, it's just a friendly suggestion)

No apologies necessary. With the amount of posers out there, it's always smart to verify.

I'm hesitant to speak to the motivations of others. I happen to know quite a few VAs, but not the ones who have been vocally opposing Vic. Any insights I may have would be pure speculation, which I would rather avoid.

My take on Vic comes from observation of his actions over a long period of time - things he's not even likely to know I noticed, good and bad. At the center of it is a good heart. For example - years ago, he started sharing some of his fan emails with me. They would detail stories of self-harm and all sorts of horrific abuse. He would take the time to answer each one personally with genuine care and encouragement. Months or even years later, he might hear back from them how his simple act of care literally saved their lives. He did these things privately. Not on stage, no microphone, no clout. He did it because it's who he is.

I would have zero idea how to contact a mod or what verification is or any of that #boomer

 

[TheClappening]

No apologies necessary. With the amount of posers out there, it's always smart to verify.

I would have zero idea how to contact a mod or what verification is or any of that #boomer

Get in contact with @emspex then. She's the one who handles that, at least in this corner of KF. Or she might show up here instead.

 

[Questioning_Huggers]

Rial at least claims to have been PERSONALLY "assaulted". I believe Marchia has also, but can't remember for sure. Marzgurl needs to just STFU, she has flat out admitted that she (herself) has NEVER had any problems with Vic, she (just claims to be) campaigning on behalf of others.

If I'm recalling correctly, Marchi's "assault" was that Vic pulled her hair, whispered something that she doesn't remember but thinks was probably sexual in nature, she told him to stop.... and he did. And she didn't think anything of it until she found out years later that he did that to other women.

That's the thing that kills me. Every woman that's come out with an actual accusation directly against Vic, it's all the fucking same. He came onto me, I eventually said no, and he stopped, of his own free will, nobody had to come in and pry him away. It's nuts.

 

[TardBows]

I would have zero idea how to contact a mod or what verification is or any of that #boomer

Somebody call @emspex, on the double!

 

[mindlessobserver]

No apologies necessary. With the amount of posers out there, it's always smart to verify.

I'm hesitant to speak to the motivations of others. I happen to know quite a few VAs, but not the ones who have been vocally opposing Vic. Any insights I may have would be pure speculation, which I would rather avoid.

My take on Vic comes from observation of his actions over a long period of time - things he's not even likely to know I noticed, good and bad. At the center of it is a good heart. For example - years ago, he started sharing some of his fan emails with me. They would detail stories of self-harm and all sorts of horrific abuse. He would take the time to answer each one personally with genuine care and encouragement. Months or even years later, he might hear back from them how his simple act of care literally saved their lives. He did these things privately. Not on stage, no microphone, no clout. He did it because it's who he is.

I would have zero idea how to contact a mod or what verification is or any of that #boomer

I would avoid powerleveling too hard. You can contact @emspex to get the verified kiwileak tag if you really are tied closely to the current situation. And since you already held yourself out as such you should probably go ahead and do it anyway. In general though its advised to not share who you are here.

 

[TexOffender]

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The question is why the fuck?

I'm more likely to think it's KV because he refused to take a side.

 

[beardium]

No apologies necessary. With the amount of posers out there, it's always smart to verify.

I'm hesitant to speak to the motivations of others. I happen to know quite a few VAs, but not the ones who have been vocally opposing Vic. Any insights I may have would be pure speculation, which I would rather avoid.

My take on Vic comes from observation of his actions over a long period of time - things he's not even likely to know I noticed, good and bad. At the center of it is a good heart. For example - years ago, he started sharing some of his fan emails with me. They would detail stories of self-harm and all sorts of horrific abuse. He would take the time to answer each one personally with genuine care and encouragement. Months or even years later, he might hear back from them how his simple act of care literally saved their lives. He did these things privately. Not on stage, no microphone, no clout. He did it because it's who he is.

I would have zero idea how to contact a mod or what verification is or any of that #boomer

Honestly, i'd rather you not talk anything about the people opposing Vic because then these idiots will come even more fiercely at you, along with you know the usual sjw tactic of going after a person's job.

While its good that you are replying on kf, i'd def like to remind that these people are not normal. They are Lunatics. So please do be cautious.