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Nyk was also interviewed in some Finnish newspaper a few days ago. I don't speak Kalakukko, but here is the Google Translated version of it https://www.hs.fi/nyt/art-2000006133153.html

These blowfiles are all the same, regardless of language. The NPC tale is realNatalie Wynn is a tuber who baths her videos with Jordan Peterson with her dummy doll and has become a counter-power to Youtube's growing alt-right content
The video starts with soothing spring music.
The post on the Reddit r / Braincels chain is on the screen. A low voice slowly reads a post that describes a very traditional sex scene familiar from romantic comedies in detail, from a male point of view. Ah, feel good.
However, at the end of the posting there is a turn:
“However, you should never experience this because your skull is too small or the bones of your face are wrong. Have a nice day."
The skull will then appear on the screen, and in a dark-red staged room, the red-haired character will greet:
"Hey boys, talk about skeletal structure!"
This video was released in Youtube in August 2018 and has collected 2.4 million views. It is one of the most viewed videos in the Contrapoints account.
Contrapoints is an alter-ego of the American tuber Natalie Wynn. The 30-year-old Wynn's channel has become really popular in a few years: when I wrote this phrase, her latest video, Beauty, has been released 7 hours ago and currently has over 233,000 views. He has also been quoted in the media, and the stuff from Wynn has been published by The New Yorker, Atlantic, Vice and The Economist.
For example, Wynn deals with topics such as race, gender, capitalism, extreme right, and pop culture.
In the United States, social and political issues are much more than videos in the Finnish tobacco world. Tubers from different backgrounds and from different ideological backgrounds are almost endless, but the division of right-wing tubercans and left-feminists has grown in recent years.
Is there enough choice, so why has Natalie Wynn been so successful?
Answer: Because he's epic!
Justify a little.
Let's start with who Natalie Wynn is, and why she's squatting.
Wynn from Virginia studied philosophy at the university, but did not complete his studies and started tubing ten years ago. Initially, he discovered a community of "skeptics" in which he tried to emphasize his own perceived intelligence by resisting creationism and defending atheism.
Around the year 2014, Wynn turned into a change: in the same Youtube community, some began to make videos on topics like "feminism is cancer and Black Lives Matter destroys us all," he says in an interview with The New Yorker.
In 2014, Gamergate also shook the video game world. As a result, Wynn noticed that the right pop-up content was gaining popularity in Youtube. The popularity grew, and eventually Wynn decided that he wanted to participate in the conversation. He founded his Contrapoints account in 2016.
Oh, what Gamergate? In 2014, we wrote about the booming game world.
And, in fact, in recent years, Youtube has become one of the ultra-righteous gathering venues where public figures such as Milo Yiannopoulos have received strong support.
Let's look at it a little more detail.
Last autumn, the European Union-funded Vox Pol research organization published a report that looked at nearly 30,000 Twitter accounts that either published extreme right-wing content or followed the accounts that they published. According to the report, Youtube was definitely the most popular site that was linked to accounts.
At the same time, the investigative journalism website, Bellingcat, released a story where editor Robert Evans explored comments from extremist right-wing activists on closed Discord chat channels. In the comments, activists shared information about how they had become activists or "started up" (red-pilling is used in the web-based slogan) by consuming online content. Evans found out that many commentators thought Youtube was the most important trigger.
The runners are found among the most radical alt-right activists for more moderate right-wing populations. Based on Evans' observations, some of these commentators on the Discord channels initially saw the videos of conservative Youtube stars, such as Ben Shapiro, and found more extreme and radical content through these videos.
At this point, Youtube's algorithms are also included in the figure. For example, The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal describe how Youtube constantly recommends more radical content to its users: if, for example, looking for information about an influenza vaccine, following the recommendations can soon end up with content from vaccine-resisting and conspiracy theories.
The same logic also applies to conservative and extreme right-wing content.
For example, a report by the Data & Society Research Institute shows how different figures of extreme right-wing movements and public figures of right-wing popu- lation, as well as tubers, have networked among themselves in Youtube.
The report by Rebecca Lewis was protested, for example, by Ben Shapiro and Dave Rubin, the host of the popular Youtube chat program The Rubin Report, as they do not think they are covered by the "reactionary right" defined by Lewis:
However, the Lewis report shows that, although the tone and opinions of right-wingers vary, they have some common denominators, such as the general opposition to feminism, social justice and left-wing politics, and they are networking in one way or another in Youtube.
Against this network, Natalie Wynn wants to live with her videos.
Wynn says in his interview with Vic, he is frustrated that the far right ideology has charismatic defenders whose ideas are easy to grasp. Just like Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson.
“They understand how to make these thoughts sexy and how to present them in a form suitable for the public. I'm frustrated by the fact that the left does not seem to have the ability to do the same, ”Wynn says to Vicelle.
Wynn has tried his best to change this setting, and the viewers are showing success.
So what exactly does Wynn's videos handle?
Similar themes as "Counterparty": Internet phenomena, memes, extreme right, left, climate change and so on. Dozens of popular babies speak of the same themes.
The real question is how Wynn deals with these themes in his videos.
1. Great characters
Return to the incel video of the story. With 35-minute video, Wynn explains what the incel phenomenon is all about. In short, "incel" is an abbreviation for involuntary celibate, and in Finnish it means anti-celibate. The term is born in a web shop that consists mainly of heterosexuals.
The key idea of those identified as Incele is that because of the actions of women they have not been able to have sex even if they wanted to, and therefore women are punished. Some also believe that independent anatomical factors, such as the shape of the skull, affect women not interested in them.
If you would like to read more about the incel phenomenon, we have written about it a couple of times:
According to the Incel movement, women have to be punished for their sexlessness - The worst solution for "incele" is to gather together to hate others because help is available right away, says sexual adviser
What is "incel"? A student who drove over Toronto on people apparently declared himself a proponent of the movement, that's what it is all about
The purpose of Wynn's video is to explain the phenomenon and to argue that the Incel's mindset is distorted. In the early stages of the video, Wynn's aristocratic outfit appears in front of the camera, a huge wig in his head, and a skull and a pair of pliers measuring his size in his hands.
Wynn's videos sparkle with the different characters she plays. Often Wynn's characters are arguing with each other, like a vanishing Marie and a doctor in the Apocalypse video on climate change, or Wynn and her internal Gender Critical video, critically critical of transgenes.
The characters are often so absurd that a suitable amount of humor and self-irony can be placed on the subject.
The term "social justice warrior", which was used earlier in a more positive sense in Gamergate's prestigious purposes, became a mockery for those who actively and loudly resisted sexism, racism and general compilation of the Internet and video games.
Now the term has evolved into an even more common barking term that goes beyond the voice-like characters of the internet, but to all publicly different ethnic minority and sexual and gender groups. The close Finnish equivalent of the term could be the "fillar communism" developed by Timo Soin.
Natalie Wynn is a “social justice warrior”, at least according to her own words. It is one indication of Wynn's insight: the term cannot mock her.
One of the key components of Wynn is self-irony.
2. Careful implementation
Dressing and make-up for outfits and arranging for the show have been made so carefully that the aesthetics of the videos attract you. Videos could be described as "cops" in general, starting with accessories such as wigs, masks, thongs and pans, ending up with a Jordan Peterson doll with which Wynn goes in the bath.
Also in the surgery, Wynn talks and talks smoothly with his own characters - that is, himself. In an interview with The New Yorker, Wynn told the incel video of the past week. Before that, he had been observing the incel discussions and meetings of online forums for weeks.
3. My experiences
In 17 minutes, incel video lighting changes.
"I said I was not going to sympathize with the Incels, and I know that they don't want my sympathy and that I don't want to be angry with the devil, but on some level I can't do anything about it, I can't just identify them."
After that, he tells his personal experiences about Tinder:
“Deity applications are so look-alike that even though bone is not the only thing that matters, yes it does matter. And here I have to say that I identify with incels, because as a transnine I know what it is like to be obsessed with the millimeters of bones. ”
Natalie Wynn is a transnut who tells videos about her own gender identity and her experience of how to treat transgenes in society. For example, the theme is covered with videos called What is gender, Autogynephilia and Gender Critical. Among them, Wynn has also received criticism: for example, in this story we are discussing what has gone wrong with Wynn's conception of sex.
Self-reliance brings videos to credibility and also addictiveness: who wouldn't be interested in the unfamiliar messages of a stranger at Tinder or dancing adventures? Or, as Wynn says with his Autogynephilia video:
“I know you didn't click this video because you want to hear about science, but because you want to pick up! And you keep it. ”
4. Understanding how to make a political interest
Although Wynn introduces the incel community with his video as a "self-destructive cult", he does not oppress the battle or the so-called "wandering". Instead, he gets to know the subject thoroughly and tries to understand it. The same applies to other videos. The central point of the videos is to argue the objections to be reversed, but this is done by placing things first in a peaceful (and very theatrical) context.
Wynn is not provoking, but provoking. He's doing the same thing with many of the net masters who aim, for example, to laugh at feminists. In addition, Wynn always laughs at himself, making it harder for others to laugh at him.
Contrapoints videos offer both a popcorn smell and a feeling of being a bit smoother after half an hour of watching Youtube.
The Finnish Youtube scene deals much less directly with political online culture or political themes in general.
However, some Finnish tobacco makers, such as Maiju Voutilainen holding a Mansikkka account, have raised individual issues such as the rights of mental and sexual and sexual minorities as themes for their individual videos. Likewise, Aleksi Rantamaa, who has held a Mentaalava account and currently works at Ylinen, shook his White heteromies video. We wrote about it last year.
Why are there no political prisoners like Natalie Wynn in Finland? At least because Finland is small. There are considerably fewer professional video-makers here. The Finnish extreme right, on the other hand, has gathered to its own alternative media, and has not systematically used Youtube in the pursuit of a large audience.
Perhaps one of the reasons is that Finnish society has less "rush" than the United States.
It probably is positive.
"It's not gay if the other man doesn't identify as a woman" is basically "It's not gay if the balls don't touch" 2.0, except that a man who says the latter unironically is going to be rightfully mocked while the former is framed as an absolute truth in woke circles1,3 million cishet guys were told that fucking another man does not make them gay. How this video not blatant homophobic propaganda? Telling straight men that they can fuck another man and still disavow homosexuality just because the other man claims to be a woman is the very definition of homophobia.
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