Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

[Ellesse_warrior]

Sexual Orientation and Relationship Choice in Borderline Personality Disorder over Ten Years of Prospective Follow-up

The percentage for sexual abuse (35%) and suicide (3.74%) in the subjects of that study is shocking.

 

[SourDiesel]

Sexual Orientation and Relationship Choice in Borderline Personality Disorder over Ten Years of Prospective Follow-up

Ah ok. So one third of people with BPD reported being gay or bisexual. I just read the abstract so I'm not in any position to speak about the methods, but to make your point you would need to compare that with other data. Just because a third of people with BPD report being gay, it doesn't automatically follow that a third of gay people are BPD. It lends credence to my theory that a bunch of cluster b people are out here identifying as queer though. All it really proves is that cluster b people will self-report being queer at a rate of about one in three.

I still really feel like you're trying to twist results to support your initial hypothesis when they don't necessarily support it. You've decided on your conclusion before you started. But whatever dude, I don't want to debate this further.

Edit: to be clear, this is a study about the lives of people with BPD, not the lives of gay people, so it really doesn't say anything about gay people.

 

[pinkbutterfly]

Why is this? Is it just that disabled people are more comfortable with coming out, is it that queer people are more likely to have autism?

Not sure about queer in general or the overall munchie stuff, but I've seen discussions on the link between autism & trans people before (it is very difficult to get a civil discussion on that topic going, for obvious reasons).

One theory was that autistic kids are much more likely to feel like they don't 'belong' with their biological sex. Boys tend to be a little rough for autistic kids who might have sensory issues, and girls tend to require much more sophisticated social understanding which is difficult. Pretty similar to what @TwoFiftyTwoPM said about finding an identity.

That said, this assumes a genuine diagnosis of ASD, rather than the Munchie variety. In that situation I'm less sure, but I'd also guess they like getting a free social pass to let rudeness or weird behavior slide more often. Edit: especially the childish behaviour, which seems very very common.

Re @beyondbendy she had a party on the anniversary of her DX. Who does that?

Lol, I'm really trying but I can't think of a solid reason to do that at all. The only related scenario I can come up with is celebrating the anniversary of a life-changing treatment (like a transplant?), but not a diagnosis, jeez...

 

[smashms1981]

Is this the author of the 8 page email?

um no

 

[Whereareallthepeople]

Since when did our favorite CZ have to use a neck brace? Maybe I missed it-watching her stories and posts is like listening to nails across a blackboard.

 

[Ellesse_warrior]

Ah ok. So one third of people with BPD reported being gay or bisexual. I just read the abstract so I'm not in any position to speak about the methods, but to make your point you would need to compare that with other data. Just because a third of people with BPD report being gay, it doesn't automatically follow that a third of gay people are BPD. It lends credence to my theory that a bunch of cluster b people are out here identifying as queer though. All it really proves is that cluster b people will self-report being queer at a rate of about one in three.

I still really feel like you're trying to twist results to support your initial hypothesis when they don't necessarily support it. You've decided on your conclusion before you started. But whatever dude, I don't want to debate this further.

Edit: to be clear, this is a study about the lives of people with BPD, not the lives of gay people, so it really doesn't say anything about gay people.

This is an inherently medical thread. Any topic is going to be looked at from that perspective. If we were an LGBT etc. topic thread you might have gotten a different opinion or a study about gay people rather than a mental disorder.

 

[Munchie_Minder]

Since when did our favorite CZ have to use a neck brace? Maybe I missed it-watching her stories and posts is like listening to nails across a blackboard.

Trying to be brave for fillings?! Omg stfu. Seriously OTT.

 

[SourDiesel]

This is an inherently medical thread. Any topic is going to be looked at from that perspective. If we were an LGBT etc. topic thread you might have gotten a different opinion or a study about gay people rather than a mental disorder.

I don't disagree. I'm actually trying to say this is about people with cluster b disorders and not gay people. In the same way it's not about people with actual real medical disorders either. But it's over anyway.

ETA for clarity: I was never looking for a paper about gay people. I wasn't looking for a paper at all but if it was about gay people it would've been relevant to his point at least. The other user posted it in an attempt to prove that gay people are all cluster b. My issue is that his paper proves that people with BPD frequently say they're gay but doesn't prove his point. This thread shows that people with cluster b disorders will say they have fucking cancer too but we don't turn around and assume people with real cancer are lying attention whores who waste resources. It's about people with munchausens, not gay people.

 

[Munchie_Minder]

This is an inherently medical thread. Any topic is going to be looked at from that perspective. If we were an LGBT etc. topic thread you might have gotten a different opinion or a study about gay people rather than a mental disorder.

I think saying being gay is a mental disorder is a bit of a stretch into a unnecessarily abrasive territory. Current scientific evidence says that even “mental” disorders are bound in physiological chemistry or structural abnormality. It is more likely a developmental “disorder”, something that happened as a result of physiological or hormonal abnormality in utero. We don’t have enough research to say for sure yet.

The DSM doesn’t classify being gay as a mental disorder, and it isn’t correlated with any particular mental disorder either, the way trans is with dysmorphia or BPD.

Edit to Add: Also, attempts to treat gay people and make them not gay have failed completely, unlike treatments for nearly every disorder in the DSM.

 

[StasisOne]

Since when did our favorite CZ have to use a neck brace? Maybe I missed it-watching her stories and posts is like listening to nails across a blackboard.

Morgan has the same one. Also while getting a new free set of dentures

 

[AnotherLolAnon]

I have a hard time believing that Cleveland Clinic, well known for complex motility Disorders (although that may be more pediatric) would not only dx GP, but put a tube in for only 14% delayed emptying. (“Normal” is somewhere around 10% - source is NIH.) I am surprised that Motility specialists find 14% to be alarming. So alarming that absolutely no other interventions for symptoms would be tried for a period of time? Is my information off base?

But that aside, the degree of OTT in this post is off the charts. I assure you no doctor would say you were dying from a 4% variation in gastric emptying time.

Context: TFT has seemed to have “outed” herself for having mild GP, but not sure what prompted this- maybe someone has receipts and she’s trying to get ahead of it? Many of her besties are also posting about their GP. Echooooo chamberrrrr. View attachment 797983

Wow makeup, styled hair, and clean clothes look good on her!

 

[thirsttrap12345]

I don't know why, but that shitty cheapass plastic Beads of Courage knockoff thing annoys me more than anything else in this post.

When I see grown adults with these- or even worse making chains out of their hospital bracelets, it’s a dead giveaway for being excessive and attention seeking.

Since when did our favorite CZ have to use a neck brace? Maybe I missed it-watching her stories and posts is like listening to nails across a blackboard.

You don’t wear a neck brace to the dentist? How else would you not dislocate everything and decapitate yourself?!

She also brought a backpack of all kinds of IV meds. That poor dentist.

 

[Queen of Quetiapina]

So what are the dynamics of Munchie friendships or relationships with one another? Do they drop the pretence? Keep it up? Mutually assured destruction/wilful blindness? Insist that their sickness is metaphorically if not literally real? Previous to this thread, I would have thought they'd never want to have anything to do with one another. But they don't even seem to care about believability.

I assume these people have reached a point where at some level they believe they are sick, I mean their actual Dr's are diagnosing their condishuns and prescribing medicayshun so it must be true....

When they meet up they can pass off any frivolity and exertion as being possible due to a "good day".

And how deep are these friendships anyway, do the purported friends see enough of each other to notice a pattern of behaviour.

Everything else is fake and shallow, why would you expect anything else from their friendships.

 

[c6h1206]

Janjan's new video on her grief. She's still m.ilking Jaqs death despite the funeral video fiasco. I was actually feeling optimistic when she said she was heading off to see a therapist because she truly needs to see one but no we got a grief therapy session, car crying video instead.



The audacity of this girl to have a munchie account and actively post about the shit she does to herself. I'd like to know if any of her doctors are aware of this.

I don't think Abby understands that businesses in the UK are only required to allow guide dogs for blind people into their premises. Other kinds of assistance dogs aren't widely recognized and even at that her pet doesn't have the ADUK recognized standards. I certainly wouldn't object to her being asked to take her dog outside from a premises that is preparing food and wouldn't eat anywhere that permitted animals other than a guide dog because I personally do not enjoy dog hair as an extra ingredient in my food.



She only really posts about weed and her dogs on her instagram now. She had one photo recently with a blood stained piece of clothing saying her toob fell out or something but that's about it really.



Why did she show a picked spot under her ear if ruptured ovarian cysts are her problem? Also, what is she looking for money for? There's no explanation here and it's certainly not for medical care because she's in the UK and no doubt covered by the NHS.

I agree, it is sad that her illness is her identity, same as the rest of these girls. Personally I think making all of your social media etc. about your illness rather than you is probably the least beneficial way to cope with having a chronic illness. I understand that finding out you will always have some degree of suffering or always have to take medication has an impact on mental health, probably more so if it's a younger person but attitude is everything.


Is she saying she had sepsis 93 times on that last screen shot?

I have a naïve question about Jan. This new intro of Jaq filming her laptop and introducing Jan to her now current intro (meaning the one Jaq used until her death, and now Jan uses as her intro by showing a clip of a private video chat wherein Jaq shows Jan the intro by filming her laptop) has me wondering did Jan just maintain records / record all their video chats ? seems like a weird thing to do like she had plans to blackmail her if necessary bc she was trying to get a record of her saying something unflattering.

also when they opened the house warming gifts why the fuck does Jan reference a dead person needing a peeler ? I was so lost ? she said "she needs this she doesn't have one." varying degrees of awkward laughter and tension seem to permeate the room following this comment by Jan. I kind of wonder if Jan has a neurological problem ? or a brain injury or an undiagnosed menginoma or something.

 

[Xrinxo910]

@beyond.bendy story posts re healthcare costs in Denmark

Spoiler: story posts

 

[Ellesse_warrior]

I think saying being gay is a mental disorder is a bit of a stretch into a unnecessarily abrasive territory. Current scientific evidence says that even “mental” disorders are bound in physiological chemistry or structural abnormality. It is more likely a developmental “disorder”, something that happened as a result of physiological or hormonal abnormality in utero. We don’t have enough research to say for sure yet.

The DSM doesn’t classify being gay as a mental disorder, and it isn’t correlated with any particular mental disorder either, the way trans is with dysmorphia or BPD.

Edit to Add: Also, attempts to treat gay people and make them not gay have failed completely, unlike treatments for nearly every disorder in the DSM.

I probably didn't make my point very clear but I wasn't saying that being gay is a mental disorder.

I have a naïve question about Jan. This new intro of Jaq filming her laptop and introducing Jan to her now current intro (meaning the one Jaq used until her death, and now Jan uses as her intro by showing a clip of a private video chat wherein Jaq shows Jan the intro by filming her laptop) has me wondering did Jan just maintain records / record all their video chats ? seems like a weird thing to do like she had plans to blackmail her if necessary

With Jan this seems entirely possible given that she was callous enough to cash in on her friends death.

 

[Sperghetti]

Ah ok. So one third of people with BPD reported being gay or bisexual. I just read the abstract so I'm not in any position to speak about the methods, but to make your point you would need to compare that with other data. Just because a third of people with BPD report being gay, it doesn't automatically follow that a third of gay people are BPD. It lends credence to my theory that a bunch of cluster b people are out here identifying as queer though. All it really proves is that cluster b people will self-report being queer at a rate of about one in three.

I still really feel like you're trying to twist results to support your initial hypothesis when they don't necessarily support it. You've decided on your conclusion before you started. But whatever dude, I don't want to debate this further.

Edit: to be clear, this is a study about the lives of people with BPD, not the lives of gay people, so it really doesn't say anything about gay people.

And I’ve also heard that people with BPD tend to lack a solid sense of self or identity, bringing us full circle on this topic.

Makes sense to me that people with these disorders would pick up both “queer” and “sickly/disabled” identities since they’re often so obsessed with being special, being victims, and obtaining 100% unconditional support from everyone around them.

Edit to avoid double posting:

Morgan has the same one. Also while getting a new free set of dentures

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I had to do a double-take on that one. Dentures?! That brings up some horrifying questions.

 

[Fliddaroonie]

When they meet up they can pass off any frivolity and exertion as being possible due to a "good day".

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I used to know this person who was deeply committed to the idea of never, ever working, ever. They clearly had BPD, but really embraced it, made it their whole personality, refused therapy and counselling and managed to persuade their GP that the only thing they needed were meds and a neverending sick note so they could get dose sweet sweet state benefits.

They've not worked in over ten years, packed on the weight, "come out" as "gender fluid" and use "muh condishuns" and "muh inabillatiieeeeezzz to handle soshul situashions" as a cop out, but they have a rammed full social life and are in Uni pursuing a bunk degree. Kinda hilarious how these money pits can always seem to do the shit they like but never any of the stuff adults need to do like work, pay bills, find a job, etc.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

I had to do a double-take on that one. Dentures?! That brings up some horrifying questions.

And the answer to that question is most likely bulimia.

There's an aggressive form of periodontal disease that mainly affects younger people and causes tooth loss but it's pretty rare.

 

[Sooper Speshul Southerner]

I kind of wonder if Jan has a neurological problem ? or a brain injury or an undiagnosed menginoma or something.

She doesn't have a neurological problem. She's just an asshole.

ETA: Jan has the most boring fucking videos ever. She literally does nothing and thinks we want to see it. She's pretty damn joyful about going to see the grief counselor.