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[heyitsmike]

Parliamentary systems are a lot better able to handle schisms and multiple parties than anything in the US and I'd be hard pressed to think of anyone creative and agile enough to split it up in America anyway. The closest we were probably going to get was Shults but he was attacked immediately by the media for not wanting to run as a democrat which is still a big deal if you're not Donald Trump.

I don't think the parliamentary system is relevant here. The relevant part is that both countries are FPTP. Sure, they have coalitions, but those other parties like Plaid, SNP and DUP are small and limited to Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland and form their coalitions in Parliament. The various flavors of Republicans and Democrats are basically already in a coalition before they get to Congress. Most of the seats in Westminster are in England and effectively Tory vs Labour.

And even here there is kind of a coalition mechanism. Bernie Sanders and Angus King are Independents, but they caucus with the Dems and usually vote with them.

But you are right that there is no one creative and agile enough in the US. Howard Schulz is no Nigel Farage. Incidentally, one thing that UK has shown us is that the easiest way to break up a two party system is to have a four party system, not a three party system. The LibDems, while not new were basically irrelevant. But with Nigel Farage's Brexit party, they're acting as a foil for him. LibDems are siphoning the Remain/Labour vote and Farage is siphoning the Leave/Tory vote. The last I saw, current polls show those four parties are splitting the vote 26%/22%/19%/17%. That is insane considering the Brexit party is only two months old.

 

[It's HK-47]

All you've done is scream about throwing Trump's family in jail for years.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

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jokes on you, im already into incest porn

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

Apparently when Trump went out into the Rose Garden he saw his own shadow, which means 4 more years.

 

[It's HK-47]

Man, Stelter really, really takes it personally when OANN does better than CNN. That's like the dozenth time I've seen him go all fucking apeshit because another, smaller network is doing better than his. More than any other reporter out there I can't wait for something miserable to happen to Stelter. I don't like his face. He's got such a fucking weasel face.

 

[The Pink Panther]

Man, Stelter really, really takes it personally when OANN does better than CNN. That's like the dozenth time I've seen him go all fucking apeshit because another, smaller network is doing better than his. More than any other reporter out there I can't wait for something miserable to happen to Stelter. I don't like his face. He's got such a fucking weasel face.

If CNN starts laying off news hosts, then I think he's going to be the first to go.

 

[Judge Holden]

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[JohnDoe]

I don't like his face. He's got such a fucking weasel face.

Don't be rude.

Weasels can look cute!

 

[Imnus]

The last time a third party candidate won electoral college votes was George Wallace in 1968.
As Democrat blue states change laws to "reflect the popular vote" the less influence they will have as the Ralph Naders and Bernies of the world eat up just enough votes to always elect a Republican.
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Democrats complain because almost all of their votes come from highly urbanized areas with an extreme dependence on government assistance. The welfare state became the primary issue of the 1972 campaign against McGovern.

TL;DR: No matter what the femocrats do they are fucked.

And this folks is why Nixon's "Southern Strategy" and the "Party Switch" is a myth, yet it keeps being repeated like the "pay gap".

 

[Jazz Cat Blini]

Don't be rude.

Weasels can look cute!

Dude, Brian Stelter is actually Jessica Yaniv. Think about it, you've never seen them in the same room at the same time, right?

 

[BR55]

And this folks is why Nixon's "Southern Strategy" and the "Party Switch" is a myth, yet it keeps being repeated like the "pay gap".

Crap like "Party Switch/Southern Strategy" is spouted by Progressives so they can pick and choose which parts of history they can lay claim to.
Otherwise the Democratic Party would be quite problematic to say the least. But this way they can just pretend that the Democratic Party suddenly came into existence in 1964 and nothing of note happened before hand.
Plus it allows any progressiveness on the part of the GOP to be covered up/appropriated.

 

[The Pink Panther]

Crap like "Party Switch/Southern Strategy" is spouted by Progressives so they can pick and choose which parts of history they can lay claim to.
Otherwise the Democratic Party would be quite problematic to say the least. But this way they can just pretend that the Democratic Party suddenly came into existence in 1964 and nothing of note happened before hand.
Plus it allows any progressiveness on the part of the GOP to be covered up/appropriated.

Even then, Bull O'Connor was still alive in 1964, and guess what he was:

Also, Ctrl F on the politicians from the KKK page on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan_members_in_United_States_politics), and see the stark contrast in the amount of Democrats compared to Republicans, some members from it quite recently passed away, like Robert Byrd, who Obama honored after death:

 

[eternal dog mongler]

And this folks is why Nixon's "Southern Strategy" and the "Party Switch" is a myth, yet it keeps being repeated like the "pay gap".

Jesus Christ.

You reject the literal video evidence of Lee Atwater talking about the Southern Strategy then?

 

[The Pink Panther]

Jesus Christ.

You reject the literal video evidence of Lee Atwater talking about the Southern Strategy then?

We're talking about the Big Switch Myth of 1964/1968, we already acknowledged that the Republicans were slowly shifting towards the South with Reagan's policy ideas, which Lee Atwater said in his interview, although not directly indicative of what he had in mind, still works with "muh Southern strategy".

Also, unlike the other people we are talking about, Atwater's kind of an asshole anyway. A quite strategical asshole.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

Also, unlike the other people we are talking about, Atwater's kind of an asshole anyway. A quite strategical asshole.

So is D'Souza. But he somehow convinces boomers that party realignment never happened.

 

[The Pink Panther]

So is D'Souza. But he somehow convinces boomers that party realignment never happened.

D'Souza is right. The Big Switch did not occur.

Big Switch, my ass. Look how inconsistent the Southern states are, year to year, depending on what candidate heeds to their whims. They are mostly red-leaning states, but the electoral vote switched back and forth, instead of there being a complete overhaul, of which 1964 had only because Goldwater opposed the Civil Rights Movement, which most of the Southern Dixiecrats agreed with. As for the 1980 switch, Reagan was quite favorable to both the industrial easterners and the southerners of which he promised change to after Jimmy Carter's mediocre presidency. Reagan was good at playing towards everyone, so I don't know what you're on here about this Switch, my guy.

 

[It's HK-47]

He sure does love to rub it in their faces.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

I think their party breaks up. I really do. In 2019, moderate Democrats are finally beginning to understand they will not win another national election or even statewide election in any but the bluest states while they are still attached to the Progressives. Or even some of the old guard Democrats. After 2020, Moderate Democrats will completely understand that they will never get anywhere staying in a party that loses to Donald Trump twice.

I know it seems unlikely that a party splits, Republicans and Democrats always claim the sane people on the other side will breakaway. But there is a precedent: it's happening right now in the UK. Remember you heard it here first: 2022 midterm elections will see third parties elected to Congress.

Shit is about to hit the fan for them. Between now and the election:
- Obama/Clinton's (and perhaps Biden's) roles in the collusion hoax will come to light.
- Pelosi / Schiff / Nadler will be shown to have knowingly lied about having direct knowledge of collusion.
- Biden and his sons' ties to Ukraine and China will be revealed.
- Ilhan Omar and her fake marriage scam will be blown wide open.
- Kim Foxx will be fully exposed for her corruption. God help them if Michelle Obama and/or Kamala Harris were involved in that Smollett fiasco.
- The Covington lawsuit against the DNC's propaganda arm, aka the mainstream media, will have been settled.

That's too much to bury, even for this media establishment.

Or, and maybe this is optimistic of me to say, Obama gets revealed to be a legit rapist who raped women to advance his agenda. Could be a reality if the media had the balls to do it.

 

[Ruin]

Or, and maybe this is optimistic of me to say, Obama gets revealed to be a legit rapist who raped women to advance his agenda. Could be a reality if the media had the balls to do it.

Obama spent eight years murdering women and children while bombing Iraqi weddings and graduations. Rape would be fairly trivial compared to that and no one gave a shit.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Obama spent eight years murdering women and children while bombing Iraqi weddings and graduations. Rape would be fairly trivial compared to that and no one gave a shit.

That’s probably true, but could congress ever charged for sexual assault now if there was evidence of that or any other serious crime like they want to with Trump?