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A big part of going to police is about credibility. Going to the police establishes a timeline and will help an accuser preserve physical evidence if there is any. Filing a police report also shows that the accuser is treating the incident seriously, because it puts his name on the record and opens him up to liability in the event that he's lying. It also gives society a chance to enact justice through the means society established.

And yes, filing a police report isn't always going to end in conviction, but at the same time you can't claim the system is broken if you never bothered to use it in the first place.
And as I said: The downside of this whole "establish credibility" thing also has the very realistic chance of not going anywhere and ruining your life all the same. You don't have to have tried doing this personally, there have been countless people in the past that tried to get shit done and it amounted to nothing. Again, Corey Feldmann comes to mind, who was asked whether Micheal Jackson diddled him, he supposedly told these cops about actual kiddy diddlers in Hollywood, but they didn't care.

It's sufficient when enough people believe that going to the cops will not do anything, while opening yourself up for retaliation.
That is a shitty tradeoff: Lose everything to achieve nothing. Whether this is what would actually happen is irrelevant if enough people are afraid that this is how it would turn out. And asspats on Twitter won't help you when the other side's lawyer starts suing the crap out of you.
That's why I don't hold it against these people that they wait too long if they even do anything at all.
In most cases, they are most likely just happy to be free of this bullshit and don't know the actual scope until they meet some other victims or hear some more stories, too.

At the same time, I don't condone witchhunts and prefer credible evidence or at least concrete accusations (which I have pointed out a couple times already in this thread). If someone like Landis is guilty of the shit that's only vaguely implied, he should be dragged to a court that can and will judge him. Character Assassination via vague Twitter shitposting is bullshit.

Also, the alternatives are judgment by court of public opinion, which is fickle, idiotic and adoring of a scorched-earth response in all cases, or vigilantism. If he committed a crime, justice should be sought. If he's just a fucker, then that should be made clear.

Character assassination is far too easy and destructive now, so much so that it can be done just with insinuation.
I absolutely agree to this point, I just think that Hollywood is such a crock of bullshit and corruption that it's almost impossible to get through the legal process without getting your shit kicked in yourself.
 
If we keep saying that Hollywood is a degenerate hive, why do we have such a hard time believing that people in Hollywood are degenerates?

LOL no one is disagreeing with that sentiment. I'm just saying, people lie about scumbags, too, mostly because it's fucking easy to get people on your side for that dopamine rush of asspats. It's more believable that he'd do these things because public perception is he's a tool factory since he acts like a affluenza infected bitch, even still I'm not just going to drop my ethical backbone because he's an annoying cunt with a murderer for a father. If the truth comes out, it's corroborated, and he suffers the consequences of being a molester and abuser, then I will gladly join in on dragging Max.
 
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If we keep saying that Hollywood is a degenerate hive, why do we have such a hard time believing that people in Hollywood are degenerates?
But that applies to the Hollywood women too, then.
So the situation ends up looking less like group of brave women standing up to a creepy producer, and more like a bunch of hoes mad they didn't get the role they were promised for slurping on old jewish dick.
 
And heres the screenwriting subreddit showing how woke it is, including 1 faggy mod who always acts like a gatekeeper on these subjects.
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Well, that and going to the cops has a high chance of being completely futile and only backfire once the other side lets loose their lawyers.
Geez, I wonder why no one would immediately run to the police under these circumstances.

It's not a high chance of being futile, it's remarkably easy to prosecute someone if an actual rape occurs. They have rape kits for this reason. Our entire society is structured on treating rapists as bad as murderers, or worse. I struggle to think of a crime that is more demonized than rape.

The problem is: most women making these claims were not raped. Rape is incredibly rare. A statistically insignificant amount of women are raped every year. This is why they have expanded the definition of rape to include sex women regret, grey areas of vocalized consent, and "feeling pressured."

So the question of "why do these women wait so long to come forward?" is answered with "because they were not raped, and did not think it was bad at the time, but now they know it can benefit them." That's really it. People sometimes wonder aloud why a woman would lie about this, but recall that during the Kavanaugh hearings he was accused by 3 women and 2 of them ended up provably false. And it's widely acknowledged they just made it up, and it was dropped from the narrative. So I guess ask them why they made it up. There are stories every day about a woman who made up a rape. Why would they lie? Well shit, why does anybody ever lie about anything? Personal benefit. Revenge. Sadism. Because it solves some other problem they have like an affair. There's loads of reasons why they would do it.

The real story here, especially for Twitter industry types, is there actually is a professional interest in putting your name out there as a survivor especially once someone else has shown it is safe to do so. It doesn't matter if the story is "he was a dick to me when we were dating." For many women, that is tantamount to sexual abuse because so many women are emotionally-driven and insane. Of the whole #metoo movement, there have been only 2 claims that seemed valid: Harvey Weinstein and Kevin Spacey. Every single other claim has been "I fucked this guy to get what I want and I don't think I should have to do that." This has more to do with the female mind's pathological desire to have zero responsibility in any situation.
 
Just waiting for Macaulay to get metoo'd now so he doesn't shit up any more RLM episodes either.

Edit: Seriously though, does anyone else think Culkin seems like he's one bad trip off a nervous breakdown?

I would have assumed so years ago when it looked like he was a weird methhead, but it seems like he's settled into a weird sort of ironic internet personality where he at least seems self-aware. I would say it's less likely than ever that he would have a breakdown, and as far as RLM is concerned I would pick Culkin over either of those other dipshits they bring on, the fat nerd and the gawky hayseed whatever their names are.
 
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Edit: Seriously though, does anyone else think Culkin seems like he's one bad trip off a nervous breakdown?
His resurgence in recent nerd shit is enough to make me question his sensibilities and motives. Because his takes have no particular depth. So either he's there as a former child actor grasping at relevance or there's another angle he's working. I know he has a weird rabbit-based nerd podcast, but it seems boring like 90% of podcasts except this one has the benefit of mcculkin in it
 
That feel when you see the username of someone you know from the interwebs in a screencap of Reddit. Not saying who, but it amuses the fuck out of me.
 
All these women seem to think a big story against Max is coming... but they thought the same in 2017 and THR didn't run it. Why are they so confident he didn't stop this one too?
 
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So either he's there as a former child actor grasping at relevance or there's another angle he's working. I know he has a weird rabbit-based nerd podcast, but it seems boring like 90% of podcasts except this one has the benefit of mcculkin in it

Why does Gweneth Paltrow sell vagina steamers and Jessica Alba sell skin care products? Gotta do something to pass the time, and promoting a company you're actively interested and invested in beats sitting on a stock portfolio for 50 years.
 
It's not a high chance of being futile, it's remarkably easy to prosecute someone if an actual rape occurs. They have rape kits for this reason. Our entire society is structured on treating rapists as bad as murderers, or worse. I struggle to think of a crime that is more demonized than rape.

The problem is: most women making these claims were not raped. Rape is incredibly rare. A statistically insignificant amount of women are raped every year. This is why they have expanded the definition of rape to include sex women regret, grey areas of vocalized consent, and "feeling pressured."

So the question of "why do these women wait so long to come forward?" is answered with "because they were not raped, and did not think it was bad at the time, but now they know it can benefit them." That's really it. People sometimes wonder aloud why a woman would lie about this, but recall that during the Kavanaugh hearings he was accused by 3 women and 2 of them ended up provably false. And it's widely acknowledged they just made it up, and it was dropped from the narrative. So I guess ask them why they made it up. There are stories every day about a woman who made up a rape. Why would they lie? Well shit, why does anybody ever lie about anything? Personal benefit. Revenge. Sadism. Because it solves some other problem they have like an affair. There's loads of reasons why they would do it.

The real story here, especially for Twitter industry types, is there actually is a professional interest in putting your name out there as a survivor especially once someone else has shown it is safe to do so. It doesn't matter if the story is "he was a dick to me when we were dating." For many women, that is tantamount to sexual abuse because so many women are emotionally-driven and insane. Of the whole #metoo movement, there have been only 2 claims that seemed valid: Harvey Weinstein and Kevin Spacey. Every single other claim has been "I fucked this guy to get what I want and I don't think I should have to do that." This has more to do with the female mind's pathological desire to have zero responsibility in any situation.
That might be the case how it works with regular people, we're talking about someone from Hollywood with connections and money being the culprit, that changes the situation significantly. That's all that I am saying and I don't disagree with you about the possibility of attention-whores using accusations to do petty bullshit.

It's not a high chance of being futile, it's remarkably easy to prosecute someone if an actual rape occurs.
This is not correct for 2 reasons:
1) The rape would need to be recent that the police can file evidence. There are viable reasons why reporting such a crime can take too long to make this possible, such as feeling ashamed or being afraid of legal repercussions. Also remember that grooming is a thing and that Max seems to be very manipulative. Also, public opinion will support the "victim", however that is irrelevant in a court, which brings me to the other reason:
2) A lawyer might misconstrue a rape as "She's into rough sex, that explains the scratch marks, now she wants to squeeze money out of my client".
We are talking about lawyers here that earn more in a week than most people earn in a year, they are very experienced, have absolutely no problem with doing whatever's necessary to smear the victim and paint the culprit as an angel and they know a shitton more tricks than anyone could ever imagine. He'll shoot holes into the victim's testimony, he'll make her look untrustworthy, he'll do whatever he must to defend his client... and countering that is expensive, since you need an equally good lawyer. Don't tell me you never heard stories of guilty people being not punished and innocent people going to jail before.

It certainly doesn't help that the victims might not know about Max' history with women (otherwise, we could assume they wouldn't hang out with him in the first place), that might also lead to them not going to the police. Upon learning that he does have such a history and getting to know other victims later on might change that. Or at least encourage them to collect their stories and go to the press (which is the worst decision, to be sure, but y'know...)

Does that mean we should take any rape accusation any woman says at face value? Fuck no, I have repeatedly argued against that very thing over the past few pages. Especially, when the accusations are vague, anonymous and without any kind of evidence or at least supporting witness accounts.
Without having any kind of context of what supposedly happened, we have no ground to say whether it was or wasn't rape.
The same way how one person can't easily take this rape accisation as facts is the same reason why you can't simply dismiss it.

And as I said: It's not even relevant how high the chances of success in court actually are. When the victim thinks "Okay, I might accuse this guy of rape, but he'll walk away unscathed and then he'll tear me apart in a defamation process and there is no chance it'll happen any other way", that is sufficient. Up till #metoo, a shitton of people were getting away with being sleazy scumbags exactly due to that situation.
Hell, even during #metoo, scumbags still got away without an issue (or do you think the ones that got into trouble are the only ones?)

But here's a little food for thought:
What if you actually manage to succeed in court and Landis goes to jail for -say- 3 or 4 years? Does that mean everything is going to be fine in the future? If you work with film production in Hollywood, you might still end up without a job, since Max' mom will pull a few levers and make use of her connections. Some people might fear that scenario enough that they figure "Ok, even if I win, I lose my job" and decide it's not worth it. Humans are kind of stupid that way, that they just overlook being a victim, telling themselves "it happened in the past, it's over now" and don't do anything. Even if you don't work in film production, when you live and work in Hollywood, a pissed of influential person can still most likely ruin your life in a more permanent manner than what Max gets as a punishment.

The point is, of course, that the situation is far too complex to simply say "They didn't go immediately to the cops, therefore there was no rape". This isn't even true for regular rape cases, we are dealing with immensely powerful and influential people here, that changes the situation even more.
 
And yet all the power they have is the power of money changing hands, or maybe the power people allow them to have over themselves.

These women either chose to stick with him for the short haul or thought it would be to their advantage to do so. Despite many warnings, even from himself, I wager.
Being a Hollywood actress is tantamount to being a high-end prostitute, given what all we've learned from the #metoo movement. That Max Landis actively exploits this in order to obtain his cheap thrills isn't surprising.
But it's a matter of time until he diddles a kiddy.
 
And yet all the power they have is the power of money changing hands, or maybe the power people allow them to have over themselves.

These women either chose to stick with him for the short haul or thought it would be to their advantage to do so. Despite many warnings, even from himself, I wager.
Being a Hollywood actress is tantamount to being a high-end prostitute, given what all we've learned from the #metoo movement. That Max Landis actively exploits this in order to obtain his cheap thrills isn't surprising.
But it's a matter of time until he diddles a kiddy.
So what is this point exactly supposed to be?
"People in Hollywood are scumbags and the women are in it for petty reasons, so it's okay to beat, abuse or rape them"?
Cause that's what it looks like, but I doubt that's the point you want to make.
Max is supposedly a very manipulative person. These people usually are predators. They pick targets that they know they can control and they use their control for as long as they can. They don't start out with the heavy abuse, they sort of start slow and raise the amount of abuse over time.
If the stories are correct, Max knows perfectly well how fucked he is and he knows perfectly well how to hide it in a way that he gets what he wants and for as long as it takes for him to get what he wants.
You assume that the women that entered a relationship with Max did so knowing he was into nasty shit, but that's kind of a bold assumption.

And don't underestimate the power of mony changing hands. Especially in a place like Hollywood.
 
So what is this point exactly supposed to be?
"People in Hollywood are scumbags and the women are in it for petty reasons, so it's okay to beat, abuse or rape them"?
Cause that's what it looks like, but I doubt that's the point you want to make.
Max is supposedly a very manipulative person. These people usually are predators. They pick targets that they know they can control and they use their control for as long as they can. They don't start out with the heavy abuse, they sort of start slow and raise the amount of abuse over time.
If the stories are correct, Max knows perfectly well how fucked he is and he knows perfectly well how to hide it in a way that he gets what he wants and for as long as it takes for him to get what he wants.
You assume that the women that entered a relationship with Max did so knowing he was into nasty shit, but that's kind of a bold assumption.

And don't underestimate the power of mony changing hands. Especially in a place like Hollywood.

In my country's law we follow the German school of understanding the victim's conduct in sex crimes to better dispense justice as seen fit. In order to inhibit crimes like sex trafficking and sex exploitation in general, you have to understand the interests of the victim and what led them to essentially put themselves in a position of vulnerability as regards the perpetrator. In their case, they didn't see the red flags that he kept making about himself and only saw the good parts, like the glamour and the money involved in hanging out with a director ( even one known to be a date rapist). Usually people like Max choose actresses with little to no networks built-in in order to commit their crimes.

It's not 'okay' to beat, rape or abuse somebody. But you have to understand the iter criminis (path of the crime) in order to be able to prevent it in future instances. That said, is fame and money worth your dignity? Is it worth having to take anxiety pills to sleep? Is it worth the drug abuse that will come if you're not careful?

They're not innocent in their behavior, but they also don't deserve what was done to them. People like Max need to be incarcerated and made to live like the rats they are.


By the way, the receipts about his behavior are in Whitney whatever's many twitter posts about him. He warned them, like a repeat criminal who's not really sorry, but then tried to say he's changed in order to sway them that they could be The One to change his ways for good. Bait and switch. It's no different than groomers that work for sex cartels who suddenly need their 'girlfriends' to sleep with random people in order to pay his debts, and then they're unwittingly sold into prostitution.
 
In their case, they didn't see the red flags that he kept making about himself and only saw the good parts, like the glamour and the money involved in hanging out with a director known to be a date rapist.
How do you know they knew? Especially with your next sentence:
Usually people like Max choose actresses with little to no networks built-in in order to commit their crimes.
Maybe Max also picks victims based on their unawareness of his shitty behaviour in the past?
My whole point is "the supposed victims might not have pressed charges since they feared the legal repercussions that would hit them in retaliation", the same is true when it comes to gossip. For one thing, going "Oh yeah, there was this one time Max Landis beat me up with a belt and forced me to have sex with him" is a really bad opener to a conversation, that is to say, most victims would feel ashamed and keep it to themselves. On the other hand, if they went around gossiping too much about this, Max could possibly press charges over defamation, too.
So I have no clue why you assume that Max' supposed daterape reputation is so well-known to everyone and that women entered a relationship with him knowing that.

That said, is fame and money worth your dignity? Is it worth having to take anxiety pills to sleep? Is it worth the drug abuse that will come if you're not careful?
I doubt you understand how such people operate, tbh. They don't beat you to a blood pulp and rape you on your first date and the women come crawling back for more. They slowly escalate this shit. That's how abusive people work, with emotional and mental manipulation. With endless promises about how they will change or gaslighting the other person. Abusive people pick victims that are prone to fall for this shit. That's what makes them so dangerous. Again, you can't tell me you're not aware that this shit is a dime-a-dozen happenstance with regular people, too?
 
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