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tomstone said:
i think most detractors underestimate him. he is a full blown (kind of smart) and manipulativ con artist and not some dumb e-beggar with money problems.
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Don't give him too much credit. Don't get me wrong, he's manipulating his fans with his cries of poverty while living a likely nice life, but honestly that manipulation is so obvious to anyone with half a brain. He may be playing 4D chess to his wheelchair symbol fanbase but in real life he's playing low level checkers. He's so stupid and obvious with how he acts that he has a 4500 page forum on Kiwi Farms dedicated to pointing out his mistakes.
 
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Just in case anyone's doubting what they saw re: the streamlabs leaderboard, you can see the exact same thing here: https://streamlabs.com/ninja

I put in a couple of bigger streams and found a few that have it, even if they don't use streamlabs anymore. Also a good way to see how lazy Phil is--other streamers have background images and shit. Phil, as always, did the absolute bare minimum. Also, if anyone wants to dig into the scripting code to see if they figure out where streamlabs pulls the leaderboard information from, that would be greatly appreciated for better tracking and transparency.

Edit: This script specifically seems to generate the leaderboard: https://streamlabs.com/mixed2/js/tip/tests/46/app.js?id=59a573d4f51aa64f9eaa
 
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TheKatIsNowGone said:
Why did Snort Burnell release a video saying the $1000 tipper was Vidar? I haven't seen anything about Vidar being involved. Between this and still spreading the 2 cars nonsense Snort is doing more harm than good at this point. He's literally playing into the "Detractors just make stuff up about me" meme Phil always goes on about.
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Snort Burnell does report speculation as fact sometimes, but it seems innocent enough in comparison to Phil's constant lying, hypocrisy, toxicity, etc. I admit in my previous post I was corrected by Sparkletor 2.0 in saying Phil had a second-car. I got that misinfo from Snort's vids. There is an enormous backlog of bullshit Phil has not addressed, whoever is to judge Snort for being unfair in his presentation of facts is overlooking Phil's case.

This was simply Snort's commentary on the $1K donation:
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He makes it clear it's speculation here.
From a YouTube comment - "It is most likely Vidar because the throwaway name was in Norwegian and, embarrassingly enough, he is from Norway." It is possible Snort deciphered it on his own merit, from his 3.5 experience years of closely analyzing Phil's content.

Snort's style permits him to be somewhat loose with his presentation in favor of entertainment imho. And you have to remind yourself sometimes, that we are deliberating and commentating on something so silly. A gouty fat man playing video games and receiving money from disabled people through the internet. You feed into Phil's frame of perspective by treating the silly things he does with high-seriousness. You can just say back to Phil - "You are not worth it, who the fuck are you to demand high-accuracy when you so frequently make broad ignorant statements. You should be thanking us for even bothering to consider your nonsense."

One last thing. Snort is about 35 subs away from the 10K milestone on YouTube. He'll reach it within the next day or two most likely. Congrats to him.
 
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DSP is way too much of a blabbermouth, demonstrably bad with money and in no way, shape or form clever enough to succesfully run such a scam for years without getting exposed or exposing himself. The man doesn't even put effort into reading instuctions (games) or going through basic terms & conditions/rules (AdSense, Twitch, federal and state taxes), structurally fucking himself over and drawing the attention of both state and federal agencies. Surely something you'd want to particularly avoid while live-broadcasting yourself to the whole world while scamming children and disabled people, I imagine.
 
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BSV said:
I am 187cm tall. Do I sound like a short dwarf to you?
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Touche, but you have to admit it's a coinky dink
Sparkletor 2.0 said:
If the person who gave Phil a large tip wasn't the person on the Streamlabs leaderboard, why delete the leaderboard?
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Like Comma said, if that's the case then he didn't shout out the $1000 tip at all. So he is either hiding huge tips or lying and kortdverg is the actual "anonymous" tipper. I would like to see his response if someone asked him about it in his chat. Most likely just get a lean in though
 
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Call me an A-log, but Phil deserves all the trolling that Chris gets. If people put as much effort into hacking into DSP's accounts than they have with CWC, we just wouldn't have to speculate about things in the first place. The truth would be there in black and white. And honestly, I think Chris is more harmless than Phil. (reeee)
 
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Tmacdunk said:
Just pack it up folks. This cancer isn't going anywhere anytime soon. There will always be a exceptional person willing to give DSP money. This is a lost cause.
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Ethical issues (scams, lies, etc.) aside, I doubt I'm alone in saying that I don't want Phil to go away. He's honestly way too much fun to laugh at. The ebb and flow of his ego swelling and crashing on a daily basis really tickles me.
 
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Dandelion said:
Ethical issues (scams, lies, etc.) aside, I doubt I'm alone in saying that I don't want Phil to go away. He's honestly way too much fun to laugh at. The ebb and flow of his ego swelling and crashing on a daily basis really tickles me.
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I don't think anybody really wants him to go away. He's just so much more entertaining when he's in real financial distress instead of this fake boring "behind the scenes, I'm not going to talk about it" financial distress.
 
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strandedcastaway said:
I honestly don't know, so if any of you watch a bunch of streamers, is this common? I mean, forget how Phil acts and treats people, but are there are other streamers who have 500 viewers but make $2000 or $3000 a week in income from that small group? Maybe this is more common than it seems but I have no idea.
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It's very common actually they're just a lot more appreciative and they don't cry financial woes despite getting that money, in fact they often say they're pretty blessed to be able to make a living off of it and live comfortably. Yes, it is possible to do it and DSP could do it if he wasn't such an absolutely shitty spender who goes on sprees and takes out loans because he cant control his spending impulses. I mean he won't be able to live his upper middle class lifestyle with the money he gets that he really REALLY can't give up, but a solid middle class lifestyle, probably lower middle class would be best for him due to his debt. But if anyone has listened to DSP whine about his living situation he genuinely thinks thats absolute dirt poor. He'd be in shock at how the working class live then. Anyone else notice that after every day out with Kat now, there's a prestream where he cries about being overdrafted and that all the money he got is now gone and its only midweek and he has bills? Well save the money for the bills and not the damn day out with Kat! Sorted.
 
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Dandelion said:
Ethical issues (scams, lies, etc.) aside, I doubt I'm alone in saying that I don't want Phil to go away. He's honestly way too much fun to laugh at. The ebb and flow of his ego swelling and crashing on a daily basis really tickles me.
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JackDavis said:
I don't think anybody really wants him to go away. He's just so much more entertaining when he's in real financial distress instead of this fake boring "behind the scenes, I'm not going to talk about it" financial distress.
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I'm interested in watching the ship slowly sink as Phil occasionally tosses a bucketful of water over the side, sighs loudly, screams "WHY WON'T SOMEBODY BAIL ME OUT", and sits back as a few random people climb on board, toss a few buckets themselves, get tired of doing Phil's work for him while he kicks extra holes in the hull, leave, and the process repeats.

But the ship has to keep sinking.
 
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What I've always wondered about Phil is what is really happening "behind the scenes," once the stream is turned off, and big man Phil doesn't get to be dictator of his little interment camp that his is Twitch chat ecosystem?

He's an idiot but he's also conscious. He's aware of the situation that he is in. Is he proud that he's literally reliying on the contributions of internet strangers to keep him afloat? Phil has a huge fucking ego. There's no way that there isn't some growing sense of shame, hopelessness, and failure all gnawing at the back of his head that at the critical age of 37, he has to rely on other people's money to survive.

If I was in his position, that would fuck me up. Bad.

I believe it is having an impact since his mental health isn't good by any means. He's constantly bitching and being a negative sour cunt in general which is indicative of his general mood and state of mind. He can't be having a good time going through his financial woes; he's stress AF and has admitted to having difficulties sleeping on multiple occasions (I'm sure his chronic alcoholism isn't helping).

People are different and for me, I'm in a position in my life to see what I can accomplish in business-related ventures and other areas of my life.

I know it sounds cheesy but I need to see what I'm capable of and be it success or failure, I'm constantly driven to improve my life and be a better version of myself.

Settling to beg for monies from 'spergs, autists, and handicapped people is a fucking nightmare scenario I'm so grateful I don't have to live through.
 
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MoonRocker said:
He's an idiot but he's also conscious. He's aware of the situation that he is in. Is he proud that he's literally reliying on the contributions of internet strangers to keep him afloat? Phil has a huge fucking ego. There's no way that there isn't some growing sense of shame, hopelessness, and failure all gnawing at the back of his head that at the critical age of 37, he has to rely on other people's money to survive.
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I don't think he's proud of the begging lifestyle and I do think he does feel ashamed to some extent about having to scramble for money like this.

Though, in DSP's case, there's at least one thing that makes the constant shame bearable: the Syndrome of NICD™ (Nothing I Could Do).
It's way, way easier to do humilating stuff when there's no other way out (in your eyes) and/or when it's the result of something that's not your fault. Him going off against "detractors" like he does, feels like him (maybe subconsciously) justifiying his begging, as if he needs to regularly remind himself of the reason why he's in this position: the ominous detractors. In his mind, he's fighting the good fight where the end justifies the means.
 
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Comma said:
I don't think he's proud of the begging lifestyle and I do think he does feel ashamed to some extent about having to scramble for money like this.

Though, in DSP's case, there's at least one thing that makes the constant shame bearable: the Syndrome of NICD™ (Nothing I Could Do).
It's way, way easier to do humilating stuff when there's no other way out (in your eyes) and/or when it's the result of something that's not your fault. Him going off against "detractors" like he does, feels like him (maybe subconsciously) justifiying his begging, as if he needs to regularly remind himself of the reason why he's in this position: the ominous detractors. In his mind, he's fighting the good fight where the end justifies the means.
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I agree. He does 100% justifies what he does based on his "10-year legacy" and other nonsense. He's stated that if he was gone from YT, there'd be a hole left that could never be replaced for example. He values himself and the content he produces highly; he definitely looks at himself as a sort of pioneer of the Let's Play! genre so part of me understands how he can justify some of his actions.

But as a guy who values himself so highly, why does he take losses so fucking poorly? He failed to capitalize on a genre that has produced multiple YT personalities multi-millionaires (Pewdiepie, Markiplier, Jacksepticie). He failed to improve on his business model by either curating/ editing his content or doing media outreach to branch off as a caster, reviewer, staff writer for certain online publications. He failed at financing his life correctly. He failed at the one relationship which I believe he'll never truly get over from. He's failed a lot and he hasn't taken any of those Ls graciously at all and that's why I believe a lot of people dislike him.
 
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