Law Slavery reparations hearing ignites fiery debate in Congress


Surprised no one has made a thread about this yet, given how the left has been REEEing over reparations recently.

Fiery debate has erupted at the first congressional hearing in a decade to explore whether the descendants of US slaves should be compensated.

Some witnesses said reparations would damage the relationship between white and black Americans, while others said it was imperative to achieve justice.

Several Democratic White House hopefuls have taken up the idea of reparations.

But Republican leader Mitch McConnell has made it clear no reparations bill will pass while he controls the Senate.

The House of Representatives judiciary subcommittee on the constitution, civil rights and civil liberties said Wednesday's hearing would examine "the legacy of the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade, its continuing impact on the community and the path to restorative justice".

Lawmakers considered a bill proposed by Texas Democrat Sheila Jackson-Lee to set up a commission to study the question of reparations for slavery.

Hundreds of people lined up outside the hearing venue and filled the overflow room to watch.

What are the arguments against reparations?
Republican witness Coleman Hughes, an African-American writer and New York student, argued during the hearing that such restitution "would insult many black Americans by putting a price on the suffering of their ancestors".

"If we were to pay reparations today, we would only divide the country further, making it harder to build the political coalitions required to solve the problems facing black people today."

The second Republican witness, African-American former NFL player Burgess Owens, also rejected the idea, saying: "What strangers did to other strangers 200 years ago has nothing to do with us because that has nothing to do with our DNA."

Congressman Mike Johnson, a Louisiana Republican, was booed as he spoke against "the injustice of monetary reparations from current taxpayers for the sins of a small subset of Americans from many generations ago".

The hearing was held on Juneteenth, which commemorates 19 June 1865 when Texas slaves finally learned they were free, two-and-a-half years after President Abraham Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation.

What was the case in favour?
Actor Danny Glover told the panel that reparations would cure "the damages inflicted by enslavement and forced racial exclusionary policies".

"A national reparations policy is a moral, democratic and economic imperative," Mr Glover said.

Economist Julianne Malveaux emphasised that she wanted lawmakers to address structural inequalities affecting black Americans.

"When zipcode [postal code] determines what kind of school that you go to, when zipcode determines what kind of food you eat - these are the vestiges of enslavement that a lot of people don't want to deal with."

Lawmakers also heard from writer Ta-Nehisi Coates, whose 15,000-word cover story for the Atlantic magazine in 2014, The Case for Reparations, reignited the whole debate.

He said: "Enslavement reigned for 250 years on these shores. When it ended, this country could have extended its hollow principles of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness to all. But America had other things in mind."

Back in June 2014, Atlantic magazine author Ta-Nehisi Coates made what has been widely considered the most comprehensive case for reparations for black Americans. In his piece, he argued that compensation was due not just for the historic injustice of slavery, but for the discrimination and depredation, official and unwritten, the community had been subjected to in the time after emancipation.

The consequences, in housing, employment and education policies, are felt even to this day.

His arguments resonate with many on the left, who believe the US as a nation has a responsibility to right these wrongs. There has been an ongoing debate, within the Democratic presidential field and now the halls of Congress, over the way forward.

It is also a debate that is likely to fall on deaf ears for much of the country, who view the horrors of slavery as the stuff of history books. It's an issue that is easy for political opponents to dismiss, stoking the fires of racial resentment that have smouldered in America during the Trump era.

This presents a conundrum for Democratic policymakers that is more than familiar by now. Should they try to do what many in their party believe is right - or follow the least resistant path to political success?

Would reparations pass Congress?
The issue - which has been debated since the US Civil War - has bubbled up in the race for next year's presidential election.

Democratic candidates such as Cory Booker, Kamala Harris, Beto O'Rourke and Bernie Sanders have said that as president they would form a commission to study the matter.

But the most powerful congressional Republican has made clear the idea does not have his support.

Asked about the issue on Tuesday, Mr McConnell told reporters: "We've tried to deal with our original sin of slavery by fighting a civil war, by passing landmark civil rights legislation," he added.

"We elected an African-American president.

"I think we're always a work in progress in this country, but no-one currently alive was responsible for that."

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"Hey, blacks. If you vote Democrat in 2020 we'll give you tons of money. You'll never have to work with the 'reperations' you deserve for your ancestor's suffering. All you have to do is vote for us. And once we control the government, keep voting for us. Don't want the Nazis taking your livelihood away, now do you?"

The Democratic party is racist as fuck. This is nothing short of bribery, and obvious bigotry of low expectations. Anyone who falls for this is braindead. The people pushing it should resign in shame.

During Reconstruction, newly freed slaves had access to education, purchasing land, use of public service, voting, holding office, etc etc. You know the watermelon stereotype? It comes from blacks who received land from former owners, or managed to buy their own, growing watermelons and selling them. A symbol of freedom. Those men deserved reperations, instead they worked hard and made their own way. The first female millionaire in this country was a black woman who made hair products. They made their own way.

The people who want this today are nothing but lazy shitheads who don't want to work. And racists who want to punish white people and elitist racist Democrats who want to keep their slaves docile.
 
If the Yankees had been warned what would happen if they won, they would have fragged their officers, hung Honest Abe from the White House porch, and Holocausted the slaves.

Edit: Seriously. Your average Unionist was a white supremacist, just not as extreme as your average Confederate. They’d be absolutely enraged by the idea of Blacks, who they were dying to defend, walking all over their descendants.
 
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If the Yankees had been warned what would happen if they won, they would have fragged their officers, hung Honest Abe from the White House porch, and Holocausted the slaves.
This is why the south actually won the war, our advanced bioweapons are still doing damage!
 
The Democratic party is racist as fuck. This is nothing short of bribery, and obvious bigotry of low expectations. Anyone who falls for this is braindead. The people pushing it should resign in shame.
At this point, I can't tell who is more or less racist in politics nowadays.

As mentioned before, this leaves room for abuse and flaws. America has used slave labor from other nationalities for centuries, not to mention the people that WERE slaves are long gone. If you want to do "reparations", how about fixing the communities that you've helped destroy and let go docile? Or finally treat blacks as equals instead of niggers or coons or underprivileged? By equals, I mean if a black person does wrong, they should be punished as if a white person did it? And the other way around.

Just throwing money at something without a plan doesn't help anything at all. This country loves to profit off minorities.
 
My family can't trace our lineage back beyond our great-grandparents, so we have no idea if we had slave owners somewhere in the family tree, although we suspect we don't have any since they all lived in the north. Do I still have to pay, or do I get a discount, or how does this work?
 
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Give every nigger in the US $10,000 in reparations. Make it a requirement that is the last sort of government assistance any black will ever get from the US government or any state government.

The used Cadillac market will have a boom and then we'll save billions every year. What blacks refuse to get their shit together will starve. I don't see a problem here.
 
I like how the author states how awful race relations are under Trump, while conveniently ignoring the honest-to-God race riots that occurred under his predacessor.
King Nog managed to absolutely fuck race relations into the dirt. Since Trump has been in power, I haven't heard about Trayvon Martin Version 16.0 taking over the international news for months. There is other shit, but you don't have these big race riots like you did under Obama.
 
The nanosecond a reparations bill is signed into law by Biden I'm going to invest in Nike and KFC. I'll make so much money that it'll make my increased tax bill look like nothing.

Nice alternative Universe you're living in there bruv.

Can Britain have God Emperor Trump when you're done with him in 2024, US? By dear God do we need him over here.
At this point, I can't tell who is more or less racist in politics nowadays.

As mentioned before, this leaves room for abuse and flaws. America has used slave labor from other nationalities for centuries, not to mention the people that WERE slaves are long gone. If you want to do "reparations", how about fixing the communities that you've helped destroy and let go docile? Or finally treat blacks as equals instead of niggers or coons or underprivileged? By equals, I mean if a black person does wrong, they should be punished as if a white person did it? And the other way around.

Just throwing money at something without a plan doesn't help anything at all. This country loves to profit off minorities.

I'm a white boy from Scotland, miles away literally and culturally, and I can see right through this fucking Democrat charade. It's painfully clear what the US Dems are playing here, and, whilst not being black, nor within a downtrodden part of Inner City USA, it's utterly clear. It seems via earlier correspondance here with a black Kiwi, that this shit is actually working, and that just fucking crushed, and is crushing me.

"Stay down, nigga. We'll keep up the welfare payments, and we'll get you thousands in reparations too! Just stay in them projects and vote Democrat! Don't try to better yourself, we got you."

~ Democrats
 
First, I ain't going to pay for shit. My ancestors didn't even get here until the 1870's.

Second, I'm convinced this is just saber rattling from the Dems. Even if this somehow came to pass and reparations became a thing, you know the government isn't just going to be writing out checks left and right. They'll probably expect people to turn in their ancestral documentation and go through some long-ass procedure to get approved. And even then, I doubt they'll just give anyone a lump sum amount- rather, they'd probably drip feed the payments over years and years. This is just another way the Dems continue to keep the black community weak - no real solutions to actual problems, just more head pats, telling them "it's okay, continue to be the victim, continue to be scared," and dangle some money just out of reach in front of them.
 
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