Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

What kickvic thinks means zero, they'll twist anything to hate Vic and BHBH anyway. But I'm wondering if the judge is going to be annoyed if it looks like BHBH is being given what they want and rejecting it. I hope it's brought up that Ty plainly said they only wanted the confidentiality if they didn't get to depose MoRon in a timely manner.

I have no doubt it'll look fine to the judge. BHBH will definitely bring up the exact words of Ty in that hearing, because it completely exonerates them on this, although Mr. Bullock softly contradicted him immediately after that, and Casey might bring that up. I think that'll be fine, though, given the mass of other contradictory statements by the defense on this subject that BHBH could easily bring up.
 
What kickvic thinks means zero, they'll twist anything to hate Vic and BHBH anyway. But I'm wondering if the judge is going to be annoyed if it looks like BHBH is being given what they want and rejecting it. I hope it's brought up that Ty plainly said they only wanted the confidentiality if they didn't get to depose MoRon in a timely manner.
I'm no expert or anything, but reiterating that confidentiality was only on the table IF they didn't get to depose Monica and Ron before they filed the TCPA is the key point here.
 
Wait, if they've had them since the 10th, how were they 1 day late a few days ago? Or was BHBH giving them the absolute max time to come to their senses?



The judge did seem like the type to go "isn't that exactly what they wanted? Yes? Ok, then why shouldn't we just do it for both sides and be done with it?"

At the same time, I really do feel (hope) that the judge is upset at this stunt, because I've NEVER seen a lawyer literally blackmail the court in a response like this.

The actual filing says that it was served on the 10th, but the apparent story is that it came in on the 11th, which it certainly may have. I said technically, because the actual paper says the 10th.

It's hard to know what exactly the judge will think, but I am certain he's going to be pissed about this. The question is who will he be pissed at, and who will he be pissed at more. Even then, it's not really a big deal if they do go through with the confidentiality agreement, so long as the defense is punished for the rule-breaking stunt they are pulling.

Note: I think the DDOS is on again. That's a chin scratch emoji from me.
 
Bullock is in the transcripts saying that the rule 11 confidentiality agreement they originally sought for is not that important to them so I don't think it's bad optics for them to turn it down at this point. At this point, no speculation on the issue matters since it'll be up to the judge to decide what to do about this tomfoolery.
 
At this point there should really be a drinking game whenever KickVic mentions "Vic Stans". I think I have a better chance surviving on drinking a full keg of beer in one go.

Too bad the Drink emote has been removed. *sigh*

EDIT: Wait what how come @Army Burger can use this reeeeee
It would seem, like Ethan Ralph, we've been interventioned. *sad cello music*
 
RT: Death by Diversity Danegeld. They have enough people pissed off internally at how they treat their employees, combined with the shriveled old crone that is Animation's equivalent of Anita Sarkeesian smelling shekels and blood in the water. They'll be sucked dry and then their IP husk will be merged into whatever parent company owns them, at which point CYMK or whatever their shitty deviantart comic is called will be farmed out for shitty merch and the cheapest korean / chinese animation studio they can find. Or worse, CalArts Beanmouth animation. Remember, the crone is literally currently running a con where they pretend to be making High Guardian Spice, a troon's tumblr comic turned into a Calarts beanmouth shitshow -- except those paying attention have realized all the non-SJW grifter staff have put up resumes and announced they have left the show. So that scam is probably coming to an end, meaning it's time for a new one -- i.e., "saving" RT.

Funimation: Literally just waiting to be supplanted by Aniplex, whom Sony also owns. This is literally only a matter of time. Aniplex IIRC is based out of NYC so Sony may want to keep Funimation as an imprint going for a while so they can use the cheaper Texas voice actors. Funi seems to be up to something with BHBH, I suspect they realize what MoRon et all are trying and are making motions to exit, stage left.

ANN: Not dead yet. Their costs are probably low enough that they will be fine for a long while. I don't know what their parent company situation is. They appear to be preparing a new hit piece as of this week.

Rial: I believe Ron is the only one who has answered the interrogitories, unless I'm wrong and it was a combined answer. I fully expect her to knife Toye -- in Minecraft -- and leave his corpse for the wolves before this is over.

Marchi: Dodged process, amusingly. Somewhat sane initial reply. Waiting on interrogitory responses, which are due... soon? Appears to have been involved in a Fig Ops discord which was confirmed by several sources as, in part, trying to get the Go Fund Me taken down.

Toye: Literally still tweeting despite his legal counsel telling him to stop. Legal response to interrogitory ranged from "just Google it" to "give us the confidentiality we fought against earlier or we won't comply." I.e., pants on head exceptional.

Others: I know ArmzGurl got a nice letter saying she should retain data. I believe a few others did as well -- Thotmore? Someone very obviously called in Super Lolyers in order to try and morale boost their team, which is kind of working as the lolyers have detected a fresh source of attention and social media engagement.

1 Week until Deposition. I kinda suspect BHBH will submit an order to compel today, or drag them in front of the judge for discovery bullshit. Again. Good odds on the judge getting pissed.
I spoke with my mother about this and she said that any sane judge wouldn't look favorably on anything they are doing. They are dealing with people that are living in the real world and they are NOT gonna accept what they've done.
 
Yeah, they'll almost certainly want proper answers to the interrogatories prior to the depositions.

I have one tiny fear, though, and that's the fact that BHBH did argue for a confidentiality agreement for the exact reason that Casey currently is. Turning it down is going to make them look silly to the KV social media crowd, despite how little we actually care about them. On the plus side, though, there could be real punishment for MoRonica and Casey for pulling this stunt, in which case it's still a win, really. My only concern is that it does give them a tiny win in the realm of public opinion, but, in the end, their opinions are worth squat. Another option is actually respecting that agreement but also asking for punishment for the rule breaking. This is a double win for Vic, technically, although we do obviously want the case as public as we can get it.
In the transcript of the court, I think BHBH did argue for confidentiality for contracts and financial matters and to avoid a bogus TCPA after Vic's deposition.

Anyway, no matter what BHBH does or says, KV will scream outrage (even when he just repeat what MoRon says, or when he says that the sun is yellow).

I don't know anything about law or lawsuit. But for me, it's obvious that Casey Eric is played by his clients. he looks like a dumbass at every step, even though he's still a serious lawyer. It's probably because MoRon is lying to him and fooling him.
 
In the transcript of the court, I think BHBH did argue for confidentiality for contracts and financial matters and to avoid a bogus TCPA after Vic's deposition.

Anyway, no matter what BHBH does or says, KV will scream outrage (even when he just repeat what MoRon says, or when he says that the sun is yellow).

I don't know anything about law or lawsuit. But for me, it's obvious that Casey Eric is played by his clients. he looks like a dumbass at every step, even though he's still a serious lawyer. It's probably because MoRon is lying to him and fooling him.

I genuinely feel bad for Casey. This guy is working with nothing and trying to do what MoRon want to do despite his own council (I assume) and then they basically give him the run around and fuck HIM over. I'm certain Aids for kids with special needs deal with less autism than Casey is right now.
 
In the transcript of the court, I think BHBH did argue for confidentiality for contracts and financial matters and to avoid a bogus TCPA after Vic's deposition.

Anyway, no matter what BHBH does or says, KV will scream outrage (even when he just repeat what MoRon says, or when he says that the sun is yellow).

I don't know anything about law or lawsuit. But for me, it's obvious that Casey Eric is played by his clients. he looks like a dumbass at every step, even though he's still a serious lawyer. It's probably because MoRon is lying to him and fooling him.
Don't care about the "outrage", they don't know what real outrage is, so why bother with them because they are gonna play the victim card when that happens, don't give a fuck about that either, people need to realise that they have to ignore their outrage and victim playing because it's all they have.

What MoRon want to do is continue to slander Vic and do so legally, but I am sure that abusing deposition and discovery to defame someone has to be illegal or sanctionable. And as for Casey S. Eric. I don't know if he's a joke, a shyster or a lawyer doing his job dealing with shitty clients.
 
A new doc has been posted in the Vic LLC thread.

I don't think it's at all related to interrogatories. From this, I found the following: "The function of the special exception, on the other hand, is to furnish parties with a medium by which to force clarification of and specification in their opponents' pleadings. In contrast to the demurrer, the special exception must be framed as a particularized, intelligible attack on the sufficiency of a plaintiff's pleadings."

So basically they want to have a hearing to go after the sufficiency of the pleadings.

It also says this: "A contention that the allegations omit essential elements is better resolved after discovery on the ground that there is no evidence to support the omitted components than before discovery on the ground that the plaintiff has simply failed to plead those elements."

It also notes that special exception hearings can be resolved in other ways that are functionally the same but don't require as much time for the court nor as much time spent making new pleadings. It can be a time waster. Sounds to me like they're trying to waste more time. I wonder why...

Again: "By focusing the attention of the parties and the trial court upon summary judgment issues rather than upon pleading issues, the judicial system could more facilely advance the status of the litigation, eliminate potential time and cost encumbrances upon the court, attorneys, and litigants in dealing with intermediate pleading skirmishes, and use procedures intentionally geared to test the sufficiency of claims."

Sounds to me like they're playing more games, but I'm no expert. Kinda hard to read this stuff, but I'm trying my best hahaha.
 
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