Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

Just caught up for the morning. Recent info. is pretty much telling me that MoRon actively has Zero evidence against Vic. Bringing Funi into an even cuntier position, they may not have even done an ACTUAL investigation... at the very least they are ideologically aligned with KickVic and likely put up no fuss whatsoever when the "old harpies" were shrieking for Vic's firing.
 
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MoRon's position is untenable. They dare to try to make it look like the poor "victims" are risking their lives and being harassed?!

But who harassed Vic, his mother, his work, his conventions?
Who tried to have Nick disbarred, to shut down his youtube channel, to make him look like a racist because of the so-called "Blackface", to make him lose his job and his income while he has children.
Who sent ethical complaints against Nick?
Who sent ethical complaints against Ty?
etc. etc. etc.

The list is probably much longer than that.... These people are absolutely disgusting. A real little fascist pack. I hate it when people make Godwin points, but if these people (like ArmzGurl, Pridemore, Toye) lived in Europe in 1930... They would send lists of Jews to the police.

But since they live in the USA in 2019, they make lists of "wrong thinkers", and they send it to the police, newspapers, etc.
Same principle, same tactics, different people.
Nicely said!
 
there stories have so many inconsistencies.when this shitstorm first started i thought there must be some validity to these claims but when i started to do some research i started to discover more holes and more bullshit.i believe that there hatred for vic goes deeper.i wonder what happened to cause a rift between vic and his fellow voice actors.

Maybe after his marriage issues he decided to give up being such a chad so he wasn't banging them all anymore. Filled with pure rage from sexual frustration they decided that if they can't have him then nobody can and set out to destroy him. I'm more and more convinced that Vic and Monica had a fling and she hates him because she wanted more and he didn't.
 
I have high doubts about that considering Sabat was also there too. In addition Monica mentions Louisville supercon in her interrogatory... vic was not there at all but at Yamacon at the exact same time of that convention also Ron's Denver comic con is also incorrect Vic did not go there. Unless someone can get me the Facebook post of Ron's engagement to Monica I can point the exact Convention which I do believe is Youmacon 2016 not 2017 he implied as I met him at LAGC February 2017.
Looks like he went to both Louisville Supercon and Yama-Con in the same weekend in 2018. They were both Nov 30-Dec 2.
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Going by this video, he was at Supercon on Nov 30. Haven't found anything yet to say which he was on the 1st, which is the day she says it happened.

Edit: Vic was at Lousiville on the 1st. He's listed as having a q&a on their schedule that day. I can't archive this page but it says it here
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there stories have so many inconsistencies.when this shitsorm first started i thought there must be some validity to these claims but when i started to do some research i started to discover more holes and more bullshit.i believe that there hatred for vic goes deeper.i wonder what happend to cause a rift between vic and his fellow voice actors.
Envy, pure and simple, green envy. He has done well with his career and brand, and they have not so well. He likes his fans, they despise having to do the "Con" thing and the fans. Over the years vic has done nothing they have not done and now they want to control who gets what. First step, remove number one from the heap and cast a warning to others, either be "part of us" or pay the price. Envy has poisoned them.

Maybe after his marriage issues he decided to give up being such a chad so he wasn't banging them all anymore. Filled with pure rage from sexual frustration they decided that if they can't have him then nobody can and set out to destroy him. I'm more and more convinced that Vic and Monica had a fling and she hates him because she wanted more and he didn't.
From what I understand you are not far off, he and mon did hook up, I understand twice over time periods.
 
I'm not sure about the strategic value of confidentiality.

Being able to show the world that the accusations are garbage and that the other side is stupid is strategically valuable to Vic as it:
- makes conventions more likely to work with him and less likely to listen to the other side
- makes the studios look increasingly stupid for having dropped him
- encourages his fans to promote to the GFM

Obviously to some extent the info that's already public has done that to an enormous degree and further information may have limited value - but it may not.

The strategic value wouldnt be in the confidentiality itself, it would be in "not looking like an ass in front of the judge compared to Casey."
 
Edit: Vic was at Lousiville on the 1st. He's listed as having a q&a on their schedule that day. I can't archive this page but it says it here
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So, the next step is to find when the two of them had time to appear together before 4 PM or after 5 PM. Can you find anywhere on Monica's page when she had an appearance alongside Vic?
 
To be completely frank, I for one have absolutely no reason to believe these women at all. Even if it turns out something did happen as bad they say, why should I care? They had what, months at the very least and years at the most to actually report this stuff to the appropriate authorities and what does it say about them if they couldn't even do that?

As someone who's been friends with actual rape and assault victims, this is ridiculous to look at. Actual victims can recall upon all those details as though it were just yesterday, and these women are more forgetful than a grandmother with amnesia, Alzheimer's and complete with a fresh brain surgery. It's embarrassing and insulting to those who actually want to speak out. Go fuck yourselves, and have a nice day on the streets.
 
To be completely frank, I for one have absolutely no reason to believe these women at all. Even if it turns out something did happen as bad they say, why should I care? They had what, months at the very least and years at the most to actually report this stuff to the appropriate authorities and what does it say about them if they couldn't even do that?

As someone who's been friends with actual rape and assault victims, this is ridiculous to look at. Actual victims can recall upon all those details as though it were just yesterday, and these women are more forgetful than a grandmother with amnesia, Alzheimer's and complete with a fresh brain surgery. It's embarrassing and insulting to those who actually want to speak out. Go fuck yourselves, and have a nice day on the streets.
Exactly. These females are so insufferable, vindictive, callous, and rotten that no one should give a shit at this point. Their opportunity for sympathy has long passed. They can get raped in court now.
 
So, Monica was scheduled to be on the floor of Louisville Supercon from 10 am until 8 pm, with a MHA panel from 11 am until noon. Looking at the guests scheduled to be on the floor that day, Vic is suspiciously absent from that list.
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So, Monica was scheduled to be on the floor of Louisville Supercon from 10 am until 8 pm, with a MHA panel from 11 am until noon. Looking at the guests scheduled to be on the floor that day, Vic is suspiciously absent from that list.
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correct me if i'm wrong but if i understand your post correctly that means: There was NO WAY the story could've happened at Louisville Supercon, essentially completely discrediting the story as a whole?
 
correct me if i'm wrong but if i understand your post correctly that means: There was NO WAY the story could've happened at Louisville Supercon, essentially completely discrediting the story as a whole?
He had his panel scheduled from 4 to 5 PM, so he was there. This however, severely limits the timeframe in which it could've happened, as there's no guarantee of him being there prior to his panel. They made a point months ago that he was always late to his panels, so it's very possible he didn't show up until 4 for his panel.
 
I think we have kind of lost track of the why behind this and I saw the whole jealousy thing again. I don't know how long it takes for Funi to dub a movie but let's just take a moment to think. When did the Broly movie come out and when was Vic asked to voice Broly? I think this is the straw that set the DB English dub circle off. And it was the most successful anime movie in the US to boot. Yeah, that would make anyone jealous. I think their initial plot failed and they got lucky with the Han Leia thing. Hard to say if they were the push to set off the media mob but definitely used it to finally get rid of Vic to watch him suffer and die.

Just think about it. Sabat and Schemmel are DB main VAs and hated Vic forever but did nothing. Rial hopped on in Super joining that circle. Marchi is BFFs with Rial. Toye is a Cuck so he doesn't count. Rial, Schemmel, and Sabat were in Super which wasn't as mainstream as Z. And they had plenty of time to talk. Suddenly this movie which explodes STARRING Vic comes out and everyone loves Broly again. I think you guys can connect the rest of the dots.
 
I think we have kind of lost track of the why behind this and I saw the whole jealousy thing again. I don't know how long it takes for Funi to dub a movie but let's just take a moment to think. When did the Broly movie come out and when was Vic asked to voice Broly? I think this is the straw that set the DB English dub circle off. And it was the most successful anime movie in the US to boot. Yeah, that would make anyone jealous. I think their initial plot failed and they got lucky with the Han Leia thing. Hard to say if they were the push to set off the media mob but definitely used it to finally get rid of Vic to watch him suffer and die.

Just think about it. Sabat and Schemmel are DB main VAs and hated Vic forever but did nothing. Rial hopped on in Super joining that circle. Marchi is BFFs with Rial. Toye is a Cuck so he doesn't count. Rial, Schemmel, and Sabat were in Super which wasn't as mainstream as Z. And they had plenty of time to talk. Suddenly this movie which explodes STARRING Vic comes out and everyone loves Broly again. I think you guys can connect the rest of the dots.

From what we know right now, it sounds like Funimation was "FINE, We will investigate" after getting harped at for months/years. But I guess the VA's didn't realize that the investigation would have to be done by Sony? So Sony comes in, sends some lady around to ask questions of all the VA's, apparently even she didn't come up with anything actionable and Vic got cast for the Broly film shortly thereafter.

I guess it makes sense then that failing to give Vic the kick through official channels they decided to do this through unofficial channels. The whole thing was an incestuous circle jerk too. Han Leia was just some random nobody. What made her tweet viral was the retweeting and liking by all the VA's to their thousands of followers. Kaylyn called up her friends at ANN, who called their friends and io9, and apparently ALL of these people were in secret discords plotting their moves Complete with spreadsheets full of targets!
 
So, Monica was scheduled to be on the floor of Louisville Supercon from 10 am until 8 pm, with a MHA panel from 11 am until noon. Looking at the guests scheduled to be on the floor that day, Vic is suspiciously absent from that list.
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Vic has got schedule at 4-4:50pm for a panel and was the RWBY photo Op so he would not be close to Monica during this time on saturday 1st more likely he went to yamacon in the morning and wasn't there most of the day till the early evening but not the exhibit hall listing
https://youtu.be/PoB9TdCDMws this was taken at Yamacon last year this was more likely a Saturday he was there hence why so Monica was proven false yet again.
Also Vic only did additional voices on MHA not a prominent character unlike with RWBY
 
I guess it makes sense then that failing to give Vic the kick through official channels they decided to do this through unofficial channels. The whole thing was an incestuous circle jerk too. Han Leia was just some random nobody. What made her tweet viral was the retweeting and liking by all the VA's to their thousands of followers. Kaylyn called up her friends at ANN, who called their friends and io9, and apparently ALL of these people were in secret discords plotting their moves Complete with spreadsheets full of targets!

I don't think Armzgurl had to call in a favor. ANN had one of their close orbiters/guest writers get exposed as a sex pest and they used the Vic story to draw attention away from them. On Twitter, Lynzee specifically asked for people to send her a list of bad people in anime for them to launch witch hunts against. Vic ranked first on their list. I detailed this shit a while back.
 
Nicely said!
They're worse, these are the type of "smile to your face then jam a butcher knife in your back" fucks that would go to the commisar with bullshit stories to get their neighbours they'd been friends with for years shipped off to the gulag because they fancy their apartment and wanted it for themselves.
 
To be completely frank, I for one have absolutely no reason to believe these women at all. Even if it turns out something did happen as bad they say, why should I care? They had what, months at the very least and years at the most to actually report this stuff to the appropriate authorities and what does it say about them if they couldn't even do that?

As someone who's been friends with actual rape and assault victims, this is ridiculous to look at. Actual victims can recall upon all those details as though it were just yesterday, and these women are more forgetful than a grandmother with amnesia, Alzheimer's and complete with a fresh brain surgery. It's embarrassing and insulting to those who actually want to speak out. Go fuck yourselves, and have a nice day on the streets.
That's part of my problem with this. I've been accused of sexually harassing a woman's daughter before, but all she did was yell at me via phone. Report that shit. If I was the creeper you accused me of, there'd be a pattern of reports. Not acting, in my opinion, implies consent because you are letting others suffer for your inaction.
 
I think we have kind of lost track of the why behind this and I saw the whole jealousy thing again. I don't know how long it takes for Funi to dub a movie but let's just take a moment to think. When did the Broly movie come out and when was Vic asked to voice Broly? I think this is the straw that set the DB English dub circle off. And it was the most successful anime movie in the US to boot. Yeah, that would make anyone jealous. I think their initial plot failed and they got lucky with the Han Leia thing. Hard to say if they were the push to set off the media mob but definitely used it to finally get rid of Vic to watch him suffer and die.

Just think about it. Sabat and Schemmel are DB main VAs and hated Vic forever but did nothing. Rial hopped on in Super joining that circle. Marchi is BFFs with Rial. Toye is a Cuck so he doesn't count. Rial, Schemmel, and Sabat were in Super which wasn't as mainstream as Z. And they had plenty of time to talk. Suddenly this movie which explodes STARRING Vic comes out and everyone loves Broly again. I think you guys can connect the rest of the dots.
I can't find it anymore but I swear after Toei announced DBS: Broly some one tweeted at Sabat saying something along the lines of "so, when are you auditioning for the part of Broly?" and Sabat replied "unfortunately that's not gonna happen, Broly is already cast".

I think they wanted to use the revamp of Broly to edge Vic out of another role, but when that failed they decided to go scorched earth on his career while he was still in the public's mind.
 
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