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Lol @ Brian's lack of self-awareness
You know what it's like to have a really good time? Listening to a lawyer that you know has done actual research and read all the files on the case, which you know because he's read most of them out loud for you to hear on his livestreams, that explains complicated court issues in such a way that even the simplest of laymen- barring an actual learning disability- can understand, and who doesn't cry about how other lawyers who disagree with him should be disbarred and lose their ability to care and provide for their family.

okay i'm gonna go out on a limb and give Cohen, AND ONLY HIM, a lot of credit here and suggest something: What if he is secretly very much against Kickvic and that is why he is going out of his way to give them stupid or outright false legal advice? It would be still incredibly stupid because he is hurting his own credibility but i just refuse to believe that everybody these people try to reel in and never talked to before happens to be just as much of a moron as they are.
I've got two words for you: New York.
 
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Brian is trying really hard to rationalize Moronica being tardwrangled by Casey.
 
okay i'm gonna go out on a limb and give Cohen, AND ONLY HIM, a lot of credit here and suggest something: What if he is secretly very much against Kickvic and that is why he is going out of his way to give them stupid or outright false legal advice? It would be still incredibly stupid because he is hurting his own credibility but i just refuse to believe that everybody these people try to reel in and never talked to before happens to be just as much of a moron as they are.
I doubt it, Hanlon's razor and all that. If he's willing to risk his credibility over this one lawsuit, he'd better be dedicated life and limb to seeing this case work in Vic's favor.
 
I can't imagine a worse idea for the defense. I can't believe Cohen suggested it. Nick is entertaining enough to have thousands listen to him talk 5 nights a week for hours about the exact case they are talking about calling him for. He would have the jury wrapped around his finger and would have experience with how to field questions from lawyers in a case.
Nick's been looking into Texas for a long time now and is pretty good with citations. Imagine seeing a deposition where an out of state lawyer destroys your arguments in real-time while citing relevant cases/rules, all while sarcastically mocking and laughing at how dumb you and your clients are. Nick would make so much money that night.
 
We really are on the Puppetmon part of the Dark Masters. This is the longest thread of stupid I've ever seen in MeToo related tomfoolery.

Nah, this is like the Etemon arc except SkullGreymon's not happening and we're stuck in a Groundhog's Day loop.

EDIT: Actually, that's unfair to Etemon, his arc was too short to give him a proper character. Nah, this is that gay-ass Vademon episode on loop.
 
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okay i'm gonna go out on a limb and give Cohen, AND ONLY HIM, a lot of credit here and suggest something: What if he is secretly very much against Kickvic and that is why he is going out of his way to give them stupid or outright false legal advice? It would be still incredibly stupid because he is hurting his own credibility but i just refuse to believe that everybody these people try to reel in and never talked to before happens to be just as much of a moron as they are.

This is a classic case of selection/survivorship bias: intelligent individuals are excluded from your analysis because they're not stupid enough to engage with that pack of morons. You know they should exist in theory, but you can't seem to find one among all of the idiots.

It's like the old story about cats that fall six or fewer stories having greater injuries than cats that fell from more than six stories. People try to come up with all manner of complex explanations for why this could be, but the simple one is that no one was bringing the huge number of dead cats that fell more than six stories in to get treatment for anything.

It's the same here and you've invented a complex explanation to describe an anomalous observation that doesn't seem to make sense. The simple explanation is Cohen is just another idiot moth drawn to the flames of stupidity.
 
I know people have not kept abreast on the Know Your Meme article, but during my vacation the troll known as vit sperged the image gallery.
The KYM users in comments section lambasted him relentlessly until a mod got involved:


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So, the comments section, video gallery, and image gallery are locked now.

The moron.

The worst thing threatening either of those two people wasn't "not getting a new government position", you complete spedometer.

The worst thing that did occur to both of them was having their reputations severely besmirched because of-- if only in Kavanaugh's case-- being accused of things they couldn't have possibly done by other politicians who transparently sat on the testimony of an almost certainly deluded individual until it would most benefit them.

The guy got to get confirmed to the Supreme Court after multiple unnecessarily outsourced investigations, but he can't do some of the things that he loved to do anymore-- like coach the basketball team he used to-- because even if it's all but certain that he got nearly brained by a political hitjob, just the fact he was involved in that makes him a liability. And Lord have mercy on his children and wife, who'd be maligned by the unstable as progeny of and partner to a supposed sex predator.

Before anyone claims that I'm making a mountain out of a molehill: the issue isn't "he can't coach his girls' basketball team uuuuuuuuuu"-- the issue is why he can't: too many people (and this may not even be the majority) view him as an actual sex predator in spite of the fact that it was made clear as day that A) Ford's story was severely inconsistent, and B) the relevant Democrats clearly did not care about the allegation until its damage potential could be maximized.

And I don't even know what legal definitions this person is referring to.

As for her action of shutting everything down: You clearly had a low-effort shitposter crapping up the image gallery for much of the existence of the entry, and despite the fact that it was clearly low-effort shitposting and people were complaining about this low-effort shitposter, nobody did anything. It's somehow a problem that people complain about someone that nobody's done anything about, and it somehow matters that they haven't themselves posted in the comment section for 1+ months.

And then you still don't do anything about how they crapped up the image gallery.

For the record, I used to be a regular KYM user for a number of years and, for all the debates I embroiled myself in, I only really effectively left after the Nashville Statement controversy (it still took me some time to stop using the site altogether), where a significant portion of people couldn't grasp how milquetoast the statement in question was for an (Evangelical!) Christian response to LGBT issues, and while also on various levels misunderstanding Christianity overall in standard internet-user fashion.

I almost made a comment when the Vic entry was fresh. I almost did-- I even had the thing typed out, but I think I was either unsatisfied with the responses I was trying to drum out, or it was too long, or both, and then my accumulated apathy for the site kicked in and outweighed my interest in making a new comment.

I never really had a prominent issue with the moderation on the site (though I never really had any particular run-ins with the moderation on the site, myself), but this particular demonstration of moderation is idiotic.


Never minding the current lack of evidence that any of these 30+ women even exist, either that's the case or there was a GIANT conspiracy that involved covering up Vic's sexual harassment and assault for over a decade that only fell apart when its participants had no advantage to gain by perpetuating the conspiracy.
 
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I know people have not kept abreast on the Know Your Meme article, but during my vacation the troll known as vit sperged the image gallery.
The KYM users in comments section lambasted him relentlessly until a mod got involved:


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So, the comments section, video gallery, and image gallery are locked now.
Ive seen people theorize that Vit is actually just Monica in disguise
 
You have to be a special kind of exceptional to get banned off of kym.

Sadly, I don't think he's banned.

The moderator Jill shut down the ability to upload videos, images, or make comments on the entry.
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Ive seen people theorize that Vit is actually just Monica in disguise

He's not. This tard has been a user on KYM for two years.
 
I know people have not kept abreast on the Know Your Meme article, but during my vacation the troll known as vit sperged the image gallery.
The KYM users in comments section lambasted him relentlessly until a mod got involved:


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So, the comments section, video gallery, and image gallery are locked now.

Does she not get that somehow said user's images were ending up being rebroadcast via Google to every phone of every user who ever searched for Vic's name in a way Google could track? There's a reason everyone was so annoyed with Vit. Somehow, the little faggot was getting support via fucking GOOGLE.
 
Sadly, I don't think he's banned.

The moderator Jill shut down the ability to upload videos, images, or make comments on the entry.
Though, I found this:
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He's not. This tard has been a user on KYM for two years.

Weskie is not making his case well at all, from these shots.

Clearly, vit is not only flaunting flouting the site's image submission policy, but he does it regularly and as such can be understood to be transparently flooding the image gallery with what largely amounts to propaganda in an absolute sense when the primary purpose of the gallery is archival. The titles are at minimum useless for intuitive querying and are regularly inflammatory, the tags are basic at best, and otherwise poorly made (he repeatedly tags and titles Ty Beard as "tyler beard"), he doesn't source many of the images he posts even when he clearly can (even if you didn't have access to the very accessible-by-KF-at-minimum court documents, it's well known to observants in this controversy that Rekieta does regular visual breakdowns of these documents-- and this says nothing about forum posts)-- and there's even at least one series of images that's effectively him making a comment in image form, seeing as he doesn't source it or even take enough of the image to so much as imply that it came from anything other than his own text processor.

His efforts at censoring handles is also laughably poor, to the point that I question whether or not he's even being serious.
 
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No, it's a small conspiracy: one man, his eternal fiance, and 2-3 of their friends. They run a whisper campaign, they gaslight people on anonymous gossip boards, and they make up 30-100 women out of thin air. Doing it all online or in text creates the illusion of a mob; the corporations and the cons cave to apparent mob pressure; and the thousands of virtue signaling SJWs are dupes and useful idiots who help amplify the outrage (as they always do).

It doesn't have to be a formal organization, with missions and code words and such. My theory is that it transformed from idle jealous gossip over 10-15 years, into a full blown movement once there was sufficient background gossip built up, with the spark of Vic being in the spotlight (the Broly movie). They probably never even considered themselves to be acting in collusion; it was just understood to be "the correct way to do things within our circle". In this scenario, ArmzGurl, Shane, the costhots, most of the KickVic-friendly VAs, and everyone on Twitter are not conspirators; they are merely fools.

I don't know if it rises to the level of civil conspiracy; that's a legal question. But a small number of inter-connected people moved fast back in February.

Read Ron Toye's texts with Kamehacon, in the context of BHBH's timeline of firings and con cancellations. Read the i09 article in the context of Monica pretending to be multiple sources. And when ArmzGurl strayed too far from the big names' stories, and tried to pull in other "victims" stories, she repeatedly got told by the girls themselves that Vic did nothing wrong.

This is not an organic uprising of fans, VAs, and women from across the industry. Every remotely identifiable allegation comes back to the same tiny knot of people.

Unless they're going to dump all that super-duper secret evidence into the record now, 3 weeks after it was due. In which case everyone can come back here and change my Autistic rating to a Dumb rating.
 
No, it's a small conspiracy: one man, his eternal fiance, and 2-3 of their friends. They run a whisper campaign, they gaslight people on anonymous gossip boards, and they make up 30-100 women out of thin air. Doing it all online or in text creates the illusion of a mob; the corporations and the cons cave to apparent mob pressure; and the thousands of virtue signaling SJWs are dupes and useful idiots who help amplify the outrage (as they always do).

It doesn't have to be a formal organization, with missions and code words and such. My theory is that it transformed from idle jealous gossip over 10-15 years, into a full blown movement once there was sufficient background gossip built up, with the spark of Vic being in the spotlight (the Broly movie). They probably never even considered themselves to be acting in collusion; it was just understood to be "the correct way to do things within our circle". In this scenario, ArmzGurl, Shane, the costhots, most of the KickVic-friendly VAs, and everyone on Twitter are not conspirators; they are merely fools.

I don't know if it rises to the level of civil conspiracy; that's a legal question. But a small number of inter-connected people moved fast back in February.

Read Ron Toye's texts with Kamehacon, in the context of BHBH's timeline of firings and con cancellations. Read the i09 article in the context of Monica pretending to be multiple sources. And when ArmzGurl strayed too far from the big names' stories, and tried to pull in other "victims" stories, she repeatedly got told by the girls themselves that Vic did nothing wrong.

This is not an organic uprising of fans, VAs, and women from across the industry. Every remotely identifiable allegation comes back to the same tiny knot of people.

Unless they're going to dump all that super-duper secret evidence into the record now, 3 weeks after it was due. In which case everyone can come back here and change my Autistic rating to a Dumb rating.
No, I believe you on this.

Trying to not go full crusader sperg myself but here I go.

I'm very sure you know this is the result of Anime News Network's campaign to "champion justice and oust those who are committing crimes and evil in the anime community" as if they were some sped weeaboo Justice League, when in reality this all happened because of this:

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Again, anime news, and western anime news is a fucking zit compared to the mountains that are major news outlets and publications. They aren't just frustrated, talentless, delusional, and lonely, but also greedy because they know their asszit of a molehill is their only monetary source away from gruelling back breaking labor known as minimum wage.

And why not conspire with one of your sponsors, a widely known anime dubbing and localization company?

These fuckers have their hands all over each other's back pockets. They know convention runners and staff, they know Sabat and the CEOs, and they know other fatheaded cliquey manchildren losers like them who can't do shit yet act like the leeching wannabe socialite rats they are.

In personal experience, this shows me not the adage of "Absolute Power Absolutely Corrupts." If that was the case, the so called "Great Satan Trump and the Second Coming of Hitler" would have already have put them into the concentration camps and we'd all be fighting World War III. This is a case of "A Taste of Power Absolutely Corrupts", and if you doubt me on that, it's logically proven.

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