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How about go and get a good bra fitted by a professional instead of binder? I have quite sizable front and my tits don’t fall of in 0,3 second when I move around. I’m not talking about sports bras here just my normal every day over the shoulder boulder holders. Right sized bra with thicker straps and fuller cups are both comfy and hold boobs where you want them to stay. Plus there are many look for multiple taste.
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But nah, lingerie is totally oppressive and unhealthy, unlike breathing limiting overly tight belly shirts and major surgery.
 
Just get a good sports bra. You can buy ones that really flatten you out and won't crush your chest. Fuck, even a sports-swimming costume will press down titties. Literally google for two minutes instead of blindly listening to what morons on tumblr and reddit tell you.
You know what happens if you wear a binder that you bought online, if you have big ol tiddies and/or a small frame? You end up with a bizarre swollen looking chest like you've only ever worked on your pecs and no other part of your body. Tits aren't meant to squash like that and binders are usually just tight vests with a couple extra layers of fabric, which won't do shit expect spread the meaty bits out. Sports bras are at least designed to squish tits by people who know what they're doing. What these ftms/mlms should be doing is working out more and eating less- that's the best way to lose tits and to look more masculine, especially building up the shoulder and back.
They won't though, because they're all fat, flabby fujoshi with anxiety who wanna look like uwu cute yaoi bois and you can't be a smol soft bean if you've got a ticket to the gun show.
 
Some posts from r/FtM https://old.reddit.com/r/ftm/comments/c6bm6e/im_sick_of_binding/
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""I'm sick of destroying my back to feel comfortable" :stress: If you're destroying your back, you're clearly not comfortable. Also, this person is seventeen, meaning that she's been ironing their breasts since the age of thirteen.

Their back is gonna be the least of their problems. If they started binding at 13 and have been for 4 years they've probably irreparable damaged their rib cage as, like women with bras, most girls using some form of binder aren't wearing a correctly sized one. 13 year olds are still growing, that's a good way to end up with your anatomy fucked up for life.
 
damn shame to see that height go to waste like that
theres manlets out there who would kill for a few extra inches, and this lanky dude throws it all away by trooning out

And there's also the fact that he's a really OK-looking dude, unlike your usual balding neckbeard troon with squishy moobs and no visible jawline or neck. Now assuming he's not socially retarded, if he weren't a pervert busy stealing his sister's underwear and then bragging about it on an account that shows his face and can easily be linked to his IRL identity, he should be able to score quite easily with either sex based on looks alone.
 
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Live link: https://twitter.com/huntermeru/status/1144280505938038785
Archive: https://archive.fo/rTFu8

I don't have any real commentary on this other than I thought it was requisite to be a sadist to invert the penis and leave a gaping, bleeding, smegma infested hole behind?
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Seems like all the responses in the comments go one of two ways: 1). I only hear good things about that guy. 2). THAT'S MALPRACTICE REPORT REPORT REPORT

ETA: Seems like a classic case of outrage or general callout culture. The "plethora of evidence" is a no-show and further down in the comments you get this:
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We could make a bingo card out of the amount of troon stereotypes that look the same. It's always the pasty white fatties with the shitty hair dye jobs. Without fail. Funny enough, this guy's page was archived once before a year ago, it's fairly plain but check it: https://archive.fo/LH2fn guess he trooned out over the course of the year.
 
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Live link: https://twitter.com/huntermeru/status/1144280505938038785
Archive: https://archive.fo/rTFu8

I don't have any real commentary on this other than I thought it was requisite to be a sadist to invert the penis and leave a gaping, bleeding, smegma infested hole behind?
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Seems like all the responses in the comments go one of two ways: 1). I only hear good things about that guy. 2). THAT'S MALPRACTICE REPORT REPORT REPORT

Again with the twitter yelling with absolutely no evidence provided. 'There's a plethora of evidence!' ok ? so maybe idk this might be groundbreaking as a concept- you should provide it?

How can you malpractice something that has no standards? It's not like a heart or a liver or a lung, it's literally an 'elective' procedure that can go horribly wrong for any number of reasons, most of which is you attempting to Frankenstein one organ into another, and it has no standard across the board for requirements or care. You might even be able to cite other examples and studies that the standard nasty wound that is usually left behind is the norm.
 
Their back is gonna be the least of their problems. If they started binding at 13 and have been for 4 years they've probably irreparable damaged their rib cage as, like women with bras, most girls using some form of binder aren't wearing a correctly sized one. 13 year olds are still growing, that's a good way to end up with your anatomy fucked up for life.
She might have also crushed up and scarred her mammary ducts, so if she (likely) changes her mind and ends up wanting to be a normal person and have kids, she will have a lot of difficulty/find it impossible to breastfeed. IIRC it's also a risk factor for breast cancer, since fucked up tissue is friendly breeding ground for tumors.
 
Just get a good sports bra. You can buy ones that really flatten you out and won't crush your chest. Fuck, even a sports-swimming costume will press down titties. Literally google for two minutes instead of blindly listening to what morons on tumblr and reddit tell you.
You know what happens if you wear a binder that you bought online, if you have big ol tiddies and/or a small frame? You end up with a bizarre swollen looking chest like you've only ever worked on your pecs and no other part of your body. Tits aren't meant to squash like that and binders are usually just tight vests with a couple extra layers of fabric, which won't do shit expect spread the meaty bits out. Sports bras are at least designed to squish tits by people who know what they're doing. What these ftms/mlms should be doing is working out more and eating less- that's the best way to lose tits and to look more masculine, especially building up the shoulder and back.
They won't though, because they're all fat, flabby fujoshi with anxiety who wanna look like uwu cute yaoi bois and you can't be a smol soft bean if you've got a ticket to the gun show.
Thing about that has always worried me about binders is that even just sports bras aren’t best for everyday use. The boob crushing that helps to keep the girls from bouncing around and hurting during more extreme movements is bit too much for skin and breast tissue to handle for long term. It’s not that unusual to get slight irritation, abrasionor even boob pain after long usage especially if you happen to have bigger tits or use stronger sports bras. Simply put it boobs can handle some squishing but overall aren’t their healthiest when forced into to too small space. Sports bras are fine when used in moderation, they can improve exercise experience immensely, but it’s still better to use normal correctly sized bras on average day.
 
What exactly is binding? I'm unfamiliar with boobs and bras in general. why would it lead to rib cage damage?

Using wrap or something constrictive to flatten down breasts to make them less noticeable.

Constantly having something like that tightly wrapped around your body while going through puberty will cause it to grow in a fucked up way since your body can't fill out naturally. Some women do the same sort of thing with corsets to give themselves freakish hourglass figures by forcing their midsection to narrow.
 
What exactly is binding? I'm unfamiliar with boobs and bras in general. why would it lead to rib cage damage?

Using wrap or something constrictive to flatten down breasts to make them less noticeable.

Constantly having something like that tightly wrapped around your body while going through puberty will cause it to grow in a fucked up way since your body can't fill out naturally. Some women do the same sort of thing with corsets to give themselves freakish hourglass figures by forcing their midsection to narrow.

What Islamic Creampie said along with the posts above about the other risks but also adding that a lot of 'stealth' troons that are young will bind with inappropriate materials, like ace bandages, because their parents don't support or believe them/ what they're doing / they cannot afford a proper binder. This is even more dangerous.
 
What Islamic Creampie said along with the posts above about the other risks but also adding that a lot of 'stealth' troons that are young will bind with inappropriate materials, like ace bandages, because their parents don't support or believe them/ what they're doing / they cannot afford a proper binder. This is even more dangerous.

I find it astounding that people still bind with ace bandages. I remember reading things about not binding with ace bandages way before trooning out as a concept really took off, around 2011 ish. Though it was in the context of girls cosplaying as male anime characters at conventions, so it's advice you might not have come across if you weren't a tweenybopper weeb like myself back then. Still though, a lot of FtMs I see around Tumblr seem like they're trying to become kawaii soft yaoi boys so it seems like something they'd be privy to.
 
I find it astounding that people still bind with ace bandages. I remember reading things about not binding with ace bandages way before trooning out as a concept really took off, around 2011 ish. Though it was in the context of girls cosplaying as male anime characters at conventions, so it's advice you might not have come across if you weren't a tweenybopper weeb like myself back then. Still though, a lot of FtMs I see around Tumblr seem like they're trying to become kawaii soft yaoi boys so it seems like something they'd be privy to.

It's not just ace bandages. There's lot of campaigns to make the point that you shouldn't use them so it's probably not common especially these days with the whole internet of information to research on, although whose to say with how troons hugbox. It's everything else. Young troons are usually not wholesale accepted by their parents so they do things on the sly and using whatever they have available, macguyver-ing solutions to flatten your breasts will not result in anything good- especially at the age where you know the body is growing into it's adult form.


Sports bra usually don't produce the results they want. Sure they flatten, but unless you're not well endowed to begin with it's still very obvious you have breasts.

I mean binding is like corsets. Fine to do once and a while for a specific look but longterm flattening of body parts isn't healthy no matter what you're using. If we swing the other way one day troons deciding to flatten and mutilate their breasts and genitals will have the same horror as Chinese foot binding.
 
Using wrap or something constrictive to flatten down breasts to make them less noticeable.

Constantly having something like that tightly wrapped around your body while going through puberty will cause it to grow in a fucked up way since your body can't fill out naturally. Some women do the same sort of thing with corsets to give themselves freakish hourglass figures by forcing their midsection to narrow.
Obligatory corset ree but
It's the misuse of corsetry that will cause the body to deform, as in tying it waaay too tight and wearing it too long (i.e. for days at a time). If you use it properly, a corset works like spanx and is actually pretty comfortable. The fashion craze that led women to abuse corsets caused literal deaths because it wasn't how they were meant to be worn, not because everyone just thought it would be cool to have deadly, painful underwear. Why would they stick around for centuries otherwise?

For a modern equivalent, imagine if it suddenly became cool to wear 3 pairs of heels strapped one on top of each other, and in 100 years people will be saying that it was fashion for women to break their ankles because of the idiots misusing their shoes to look "cool".

With binding, on the other hand, there's no way to use it "properly". Even with the pithy guidelines companies give out, like "take breaks" or "don't wear it in the heat", its construction makes shallow breathing and deformation an inevitability. There's no way to adjust a binder, for example. And I really don't trust children to measure themselves accutrately, so it's probably too small already.

Moreover, information on the harm binding can cause is extremely few and far between. If you really scour tumblr, maybe you'll find one "oh you might get a cough and have to go to the hospital!" But you have to put a gun to people's faces to get them to admit that deformation is a thing at all. Or breaking your ribs. Or collapsing a lung. Or breaking a rib in such a way that it stabs into your lung. Or give yourself permanent breast sag.
 
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What Islamic Creampie said along with the posts above about the other risks but also adding that a lot of 'stealth' troons that are young will bind with inappropriate materials, like ace bandages, because their parents don't support or believe them/ what they're doing / they cannot afford a proper binder. This is even more dangerous.
Google foot binding, then apply the same basic principle to the chest.
And they wonder why they're depressed and neurotic all the time...
 
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