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Interesting. I can't think of any other accusations off the top of my head that's specific enough to have any numbers in it. Maybe that Emmett guy mentioned there being three Orion slave girl cosplayers?

Also, it's like people have pointed out before, all the other issues aside, what the hell is an 'anime prop'? Did he offer them powdered donuts? Props are a visual aid. And Vic dubs, so they wouldn't even possibly have some...reference item or something used by the animators or sound effect creators. Even ignoring the convenient little outs like 'the whole con staff changed' and 'parents chose not to press charges', basic logical things like 'how did he sneak three kids into his hotel room', 'how did he slip the leash' and 'prop???' tear the story apart. It's like she stole the story from some actor's story, and forgot to change the wording into something that made sense.

IIRC, she said they were STC props, which changes the question to why 3 teenage anime fans were interested in props for a fan show about a sci-fi tv series that ended decades before they were born.
 
I was looking into the Mari Iijima thing. This won't surprise anyone here that prior to the Crimson Chin's accusations, there doesn't appear to be anything about him attacking her at Tekko 2007.

I did find some other autism.
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There's a really big problem with this allegation. Vic and Mari are both actors. Neither have voice direction, script writing or audio editing credits for Macross. Anime dubs record each actor individually. How would Vic get the opportunity to constantly blame Mari for her friend's suicide throughout the show's production if he rarely ever saw her? If Vic was such a bother to Mari, why did they attend the same conventions multiple times afterwards?

This is a strong game of autistic telephone. Mari and Vic recorded a commentary track for a Macross DVD. I don't have that disc, so I'm going to have to take this Gamefaqs sperg at his word.
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Who wants to bet that this benign interaction that never mentioned suicide mutated into VIC WAS CONSTANTLY HARASSING HER OVER HER FRIEND'S DEATH?

Vic's ex Michelle Specht responded to the Yahoo Answers post and said it was nonsense.
 
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IIRC, she said they were STC props, which changes the question to why 3 teenage anime fans were interested in props for a fan show about a sci-fi tv series that ended decades before they were born.
It's amazing how they keep raising the stakes despite having no ground to stand on. They went from harassment, sexual assault and possibly rape to now child abduction and an implied child rape attempt.

The guy would have abducted 3 minors but nobody did anything, nobody talked to the police, nothing happened. Everybody knew but nobody did anything, no one documented it and all the cons kept inviting him back.
 
It's amazing how they keep raising the stakes despite having no ground to stand on. They went from harassment, sexual assault and possibly rape to now child abduction and an implied child rape attempt.

The guy would have abducted 3 minors but nobody did anything, nobody talked to the police, nothing happened. Everybody knew but nobody did anything, no one documented it and all the cons kept inviting him back.
the part that makes this bs fall apart was already pointed out earlier but: Nobody even noticed 3 minors going missing AND vic going missing when supposedly everybody was keeping watch on his shit. You literally can't both pay attention and not notice something so obvious. It's not like he could just hide 3 teenage girls in his coat pocket.
 
I think the funniest thing about Tekko 2018 (A year before this whole shiz went down) is that it wasn't just Vic there. You also had Monica and ProZD or whatever the hell his name is. So one of the defendents and some nameless nobody who sided with the KickVic crowd. They were in the same panel and they were all acting buddy buddy during the entire thing. If I remember, Vic even hugged Monica as they were getting on stage.

In fact, everyone at the con seemed excited to see Vic. Even on the last signing, the line went outside of the rope barricades they set up in the middle of the exhibition hall they used. I was in the line for about 2 hours before I finally met the guy. Being one of the few people who didn't know who the heck he is, I thought he was going to be a tool with his picture, but on meeting him, he was actually really cool.
 
the part that makes this bs fall apart was already pointed out earlier but:
It was made by the mannish contrarian. There's a reason why AnOminous wants her deposed, not only will it be funny it'll show how insane Vic's accusers are. Disregard that the chin has already contradicted earlier statements, what's something huge that's missing from her recent sperg? She's wants Vic banned for calling a woman easy and making a Japanese VA uncomfortable, (there is evidence against the last)... So what's missing and should be fucking huge? Mannish is a first party witness that has accused Vic of assault (arse grab) and yet relies on 3rd person hearsay to substantiate the need for a ban.

She'll blow a gasket when it's revealed she's one of the affidavits.
 
There's a really big problem with this allegation. Vic and Mari are both actors. Neither have voice direction, script writing or audio editing credits for Macross. Anime dubs record each actor individually. How would Vic get the opportunity to constantly blame Mari for her friend's suicide throughout the show's production if he rarely ever saw her? If Vic was such a bother to Mari, why did they attend the same conventions multiple times afterwards?

Given IMDB, Vic voiced Hikaru Ichijo in the english dub, the deceased Arihiro Hase did the japanese original voice for Hikaru ichijo and Mari Iijima did both voice dubs for Lynn Minmay.
Also worth mentioning: Monica Rial did voice Misa Hayase.
Now make a educated guess who I think was seeding that Vic berated Mari story and how valid it is!
[ ] It's true!
[ ] Monica just fuck off, will ya!
Pick one.
 
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Given IMDB, Vic voiced Hikaru Ichijo in the english dub, the deceased Arihiro Hase did the japanese original voice for Hikaru ichijo and Mari Iijima did both voice dubs for Lynn Minmay.
Also worth mentioning: Monica Rial did voice Misa Hayase.
Now make a educated guess who I think was the seeding that Vic berated Mari story and how valid it is!
[ ] It's true!
[ ] Monica just fuck off, will ya!
Pick one.
One of these is gonna win someone a bunch of money in damages, I just feel it.
 
I think the funniest thing about Tekko 2018 (A year before this whole shiz went down) is that it wasn't just Vic there. You also had Monica and ProZD or whatever the hell his name is. So one of the defendents and some nameless nobody who sided with the KickVic crowd. They were in the same panel and they were all acting buddy buddy during the entire thing. If I remember, Vic even hugged Monica as they were getting on stage.

A lot of people here are speculating that the motivation for all of this is jealousy/resentment on the part of Monica and Jamie. I'm wondering if something like that can be asked when they're on the stand. I feel like the difference between SJWs and anti SJWs is which side would be the one to tell you they hate you straight to your face.
 
A lot of people here are speculating that the motivation for all of this is jealousy/resentment on the part of Monica and Jamie. I'm wondering if something like that can be asked when they're on the stand. I feel like the difference between SJWs and anti SJWs is which side would be the one to tell you they hate you straight to your face.

I mean, it can definitely be the case. From what I saw, if there was an autograph line that had both Vic and another VA, typically people went to Vic for his autograph or a picture/recording and left the other VA sitting there. This also happened at Tekko with Vic and Pro. I think only 9 or 10 people actually went to the latter for a signature, usually just to pity him.
 
Given IMDB, Vic voiced Hikaru Ichijo in the english dub, the deceased Arihiro Hase did the japanese original voice for Hikaru ichijo and Mari Iijima did both voice dubs for Lynn Minmay.
Also worth mentioning: Monica Rial did voice Misa Hayase.
Now make a educated guess who I think was seeding that Vic berated Mari story and how valid it is!
[ ] It's true!
[ ] Monica just fuck off, will ya!
Pick one.
... Well that's ironic. In Macross, especially Do You Remember Love, the story goes that Hikaru goes for Minmay, then Misa. Minmay briefly (yet understandably) becomes a THOT, but eventually accepts the relationship.
 
I think the funniest thing about Tekko 2018 (A year before this whole shiz went down) is that it wasn't just Vic there. You also had Monica and ProZD or whatever the hell his name is. So one of the defendents and some nameless nobody who sided with the KickVic crowd. They were in the same panel and they were all acting buddy buddy during the entire thing. If I remember, Vic even hugged Monica as they were getting on stage.
ProZD has also been in some RoosterTeeth stuff, namely some of their Achievement Hunter videos.
 
I mean, it can definitely be the case. From what I saw, if there was an autograph line that had both Vic and another VA, typically people went to Vic for his autograph or a picture/recording and left the other VA sitting there. This also happened at Tekko with Vic and Pro. I think only 9 or 10 people actually went to the latter for a signature, usually just to pity him.

Probably because for a large part it's attitude. While there are fans of people like Sabat, Rial etc, most folks can smell the fact they're phoning a lot of it in. They're there for the paycheck and boom and done. We know from utterances of some that they even outright hate their smelly unwashed fans.

Vic? Sean? Those guys are geeks and fans too. They remember people they speak to, in Vic's case even remembering personal life stuff when he sees them again months or even years afterwards. That's the difference between a lot of them and many of them just don't understand or get it. Too many of them treat it like a job clock in and clock out.

But Vic? This is his life and it's what makes the whole Machiavellian attempt bullshittery even more gauling.
 
A lot of people here are speculating that the motivation for all of this is jealousy/resentment on the part of Monica and Jamie. I'm wondering if something like that can be asked when they're on the stand. I feel like the difference between SJWs and anti SJWs is which side would be the one to tell you they hate you straight to your face.

I doubt they'll even need to ask. You can see the pure cuntiness on their faces from across the room and they're nowhere near composed enough to keep it covered up without letting the mask slip off.
 
the part that makes this bs fall apart was already pointed out earlier but: Nobody even noticed 3 minors going missing AND vic going missing when supposedly everybody was keeping watch on his shit. You literally can't both pay attention and not notice something so obvious. It's not like he could just hide 3 teenage girls in his coat pocket.
This story is full of holes.
First they say the 3 girls were targeted when Vic "slipped away from his handlers".
In the next breath the story turns into "a Tekko staffer witnessed Vic taking an underage fan into a room alone."

Did staff know where Vic was or didn't they?

Again, I would also like to know, if the staffer witnessed an assault on a minor, why that staffer didn't contact police immediately. The only answer I've seen so far is "well, without knowing them, my guess is maybe they didn't feel they were in the position to have a headline guest interrogated by the police."
Whatever the answer they give to the question it isn't going to cut it, because there's no excuse for not reporting an incident like that if the story is true.
I've never seen such a cowardly bunch that belittle sexual assault on a minor like these people do.
I really hope crimson chin gets deposed, along with whoever else submitted sworn affidavits, so maybe we can get answers to some of these questions.

I don't mean to rant, but the way these creatures use child sexual abuse as a tool to benefit them and tear others down, while simulestanously defending a pedophile in Sarah's case, makes me sick.
 
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